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Plot Manip is well on the way to being axed as one of the most abused and wanked abilities on the wiki first of all. Second, I'm fairly sure DnD characters resist it anyway.
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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation
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Pretty sure it IS the most powerful ability here.
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Actually no. Only the game master has plot hax. The rest dont
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Plot is not the most powerful...it all depends on what the character shows... reality warping could be better, fate manipulation too, causality manip, concept use too, its all on how powerful X ability is shown.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen more experienced members bemoan this notion many times, so I'm not buying it as the "most powerful ability" without more context.
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i mean the limits of plot manipulation are based on its feats. so plot manip on its own without good explanation or feats is might as well just be nerfed reality warping.
and yes plot manip is dumb
and yes plot manip is dumb
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Uh, no and every time I see this sort of thing I want to physically implode.
There is no such thing as a most powerful ability. Everything comes down to showings, scale and level of effect for any power.
Even what's basically reality warping with some 4th Wall flavor text.
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From what i see, a good hax has three things:
1. How fast it is, is it passive or immeasurable...
2. On what can it work on, can it work on acausality type 5, NEP type 2, Transduality, beings with resistance, ...etc.
3. What tier can it work on as a smurf, can it work on tier 1's,...
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Any hax can fit these 3 things with feats....
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DnD 1-A smurf hax is multiple times into 1-A while Homestruck 1-A smurf hax is two times baseline 1-A iirc.
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1-As DnD are baseline
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Then passive Homestruck plot hax go brrr?
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The first one in 1A has H1A plot manip iirc, altho there were some debate on it.
What can downstreamers do against Ruphas just transcending them the moment the fight starts?
What can downstreamers do against Ruphas just transcending them the moment the fight starts?
Jibz
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If its not set in place then its irrelevant, so is it on their profile, or?
Be on a level of transcendence that Ruphas’s hax is irrelevant to them. For Downstreamers scaling a short run down would be:
They transcend a manifold in which there are infinite universe, each universe is run under a formal system (such as Mathematics and Geometry) with all logically possible universes existing. That and Downstreamers have reactive evolution aswell, the law manipulation of their verse changed the downstreamers into beings that went from L2-C to Low 1-A.
Rikimarox2
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It is on their profile, but there were debate on whether it was purely defensive and not offensive. Still, it's on the list, so I assume that debate went nowhere.
Also, I don't think I understand? Ruphas' hax lets them instantly transcend their opponent to irrelevancy, and they can do it infinitely. Each transcendence views the last as fiction, iirc. Does Downstreamers have anything close to this?
Also, I don't think I understand? Ruphas' hax lets them instantly transcend their opponent to irrelevancy, and they can do it infinitely. Each transcendence views the last as fiction, iirc. Does Downstreamers have anything close to this?
Jibz
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Again, if the ability to "infinitely transcend" hasn't been shown to be effective on a character of Downstreamers transcendence then to assume it would "infinitely transcend" would be NLF. So again i must ask, how strong is Ruphas's cosmology and how far does Ruphas scale?
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Ruphas IS the second place, so Downstreamers will probably third place, depending on how strong Horrorterrors are.
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it is not, the 1-A madness hax is baseline, the only people that are above baseline is lumi who is 2 layers above baseline and uvaduum who are one layer above baseline, Caliborn bodies and hard, esp considering that people seem to ignore the fact that 1)it isnt just plot hax, it is a bunch of things placed under the category of plot hax that verily screws over dnd peeps and 2) he has other passives that are all also 1-A from scaling to Lord English and rofl stomp dnd
Jibz
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Ah....as for horrorterrors, they seem baseline L1-A and their hax arent anywhere near Downstreamers hax's, Acasuality type 5, Transduality type 3, immortality type 5, conceptual manip and could recreate them perfectly to the point it could literally be them rather than just a "copy" via data manip.
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Rikimarox2
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Well, kind of expected. WoD being nuts as always, but damn is it cool.
Anyways, GOTM most definitely takes the 5th place then, considering The Great Reason is just 7 layers into 1-A iirc.
Anyways, GOTM most definitely takes the 5th place then, considering The Great Reason is just 7 layers into 1-A iirc.
Jibz
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Do we still use the same justification for GOTM as we did last time?
Yeah she'd be 5th place bare minimum
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^Delta already explained it sheesh.
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yes, 1-A+ and stuff that is currently non-canon so, rip
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was just elaborating more on stuff, and also clearing up the misconception that plot hax is the only thing of his that is 1-A
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Well, nevermind. It seems Unsong's tier 0 is the weakest among tier 0s.
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is baseline, like the amaranth/anu, the archetypes, "god", and the mother of abominations (true form)
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There is a bunch of new 11-C scps
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These been added.
If anyone else is proposing a character, please just quote this comment, link the character's profile and give me the match/reasoning on why that character should take the proposed placement.
speedster352
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I am proposing the seven deadly sins god tier once they get their upgrades.
speedster352
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I think that they can be placed on this list because of regen, hax and versatility
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