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Top 10 most potent eyes in fiction.

@Light: Eh it's more like Atomization that somehow manages to work on beings that are possibilities and impervious to and transcend all aspects of physics...but you're right about there.

And the planetary one you're probably referring to GK's Ulthratotep range. Base GK's range is unknown though it does seem to cover up an island landmass off the coast of France that's able to house up 100k students at its academia though he was doing this from a rift in the universe.
 
What stops The Almighty from nullifying the Eye of Aeon while simultaneously making Yhwach resistant to the abilities of said power?
 
Ok i am temporarily back.

@TacticalNuke. Above the Almighty no, I don't think it has any real counters to future fate manipulation. Above the eye of aeon, not a chance. Infinite possibilities precog and choosing from infinite possible futures utterly destroy MeoDP. About Jagan, the Jagan is like an arsenal of it's own (will manip, fear manip, reality warping, death manip, fate manip, time manip, status effect inducement etc you name it, like half of ban's arsenal all come from the Jagan, and that's all on sight and it avoids resistances to most forms of mind hax and reality warping). MeoDP can't compare to the Jagan due to versatlity.

@Light, are his eyes special? Or is it just "all who stand in my presence", cus there is a difference, 1 is because it's literally his eyes that do that (give anyone else those eyes and the effect would be the same), while the other is more like "im so powerful that standing in my presence haxes you to death". That's why Jiren was excluded (it's not his eyes that are special, it's more that he is special and therefore makes the eyes look special too).

I added the rest.
 
Warren Valion said:
What stops The Almighty from nullifying the Eye of Aeon while simultaneously making Yhwach resistant to the abilities of said power?
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The fact that the Eye of Aeon is literally a better Almighty (infinite futures and choose a route in infinite futures). And yhwach ain't touching anything 2-A, so there's that.
 
It's not kakeru vs yhwach, it's eye of aeon vs almighty, from just looking at the 2 abilities eye of aeon is superior, almighty makes yhwach able to see countless futures or something like that and chosing a future from that, while the eye of aeon makes kakeru able to see infinite possibilities for the future and make anything possible no matter how small the possibility for it to happen is.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
Its ability to affect higher dimensions means that it is NLF to assume that Yhwach can null it, I guess.
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What the ****?

Wouldn't his rating be higher dimensional with the Eye of Aeon if that was the case?
 
>eye abilities

smh

this is discrimination

Why can't Sauron take number 1 for now he is an eye.
 
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception has low 1-C conceptual killing. And it has killed this "Infinite futures, choose the best one" ability canonically.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
It's not kakeru vs yhwach, it's eye of aeon vs almighty, from just looking at the 2 abilities eye of aeon is superior, almighty makes yhwach able to see countless futures or something like that and chosing a future from that, while the eye of aeon makes kakeru able to see infinite possibilities for the future and make anything possible no matter how small the possibility for it to happen is.
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I feel like you are downplaying the Almighty tbh.

The Almighty grants Yhwach the ability to know about everything he sees, for all powers he sees to take his side, to be immune to all powers he knows and not able to be defeated by such powers. And that is not all as he is able to see the future, the ability to steal powers and be able to give his Reiatsu to others.

After Yhwach absorbs the Soul King, he reveals the Almighty's true ability in which it allows him to see every and all possible futures while also allowing him to change the futures. Like grains of sands, Yhwach can see all possible futures and select whichever he wishes to happen. And if this is not pleasing enough for him, Yhwach can rewrite futures to better suit him and his needs, like rewriting the future when he was dead so now he is alive.

The power nullification/immunity is pretty potent as Yhwach has already nulled an ability that denies it's target's reincarnation and returns them to nothing. He also had his powers removed and replaced with that of a literal ant, yet Yhwach could remove the seal, return his powers to himself and nullify the ability after it had happened.

It's more than just precog and picking futures.

Not to mention the Eye of Aeon has a weakness from overuse.
 
The eye of aeon isn't higher dimensional, no idea where that came from, it's just makes him able to observe the future from all possible directions, and the future is infinite.

And also make anything he wants to happen happen by choosing a future from that infinity.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
Its an ability, not exactly an attack, so he can't get a AP tier for it.
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Jin Kisaragi has "Higher with Power of Order" which is an ability that makes him get stronger to face whatever opponent that is threatening him, it is not an attack yet it still has a tier.

Also if his powers can effect Higher Dimensional beings, then shouldn't that be on his profile, because unless I am missing something - it isn't.
 
@Warren Those scans for Almighty could be good to add to Yhwach's page.

Seems unlocked rn but IDK if it should be done cuz of some revision that's probably going on with Bleach.
 
So...how is this list being determined.

Higher dimensional eyes?

Eyes with the most abilities?

Eyes with the best effects?

Eyes which are the most difficult to counter or OP within their own verse?
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
The eye of aeon isn't higher dimensional, no idea where that came from, it's just makes him able to observe the future from all possible directions, and the future is infinite.
And also make anything he wants to happen happen by choosing a future from that infinity.
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Oh really, so what stops the N U L L?
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
PoO makes him stronger, so the "higher" rating. Since it actually affects his AP.
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Apparenty it isn't higher dimensional after all - it just sees a 2-A multiverse.
 
Make sure to mind the topics, guys.
 
@Tactical No Kakeru can't tangle with Demiurge, where is this 2-A stuff even coming from?

You guys know Demiurge has the eye too right, and exists outside time itself and legit controls all of time.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
MeoDP > Jagan. So change the order, Fire.
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Again no. MeoDP has no way to deal with Jagan's "look at me and it's game over".

Jagan has:

-Easier mechanics

-More abilities

-Harder to resist

-Way more versatile

So the Jagan in a fight would be a TON harder to deal with. Low 1-C conceptual killing is good ofc, but 2-A thought based illusions that work on belief and self induced results is a ton harder and a lot more versatile.

About it being above Almighty and EoA you gonna have to argue with the others.
 
Warren Valion said:
Why is Jagan in 2nd place?
It doesn't sound that broken.
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My description on the "notable abilities" section is not complete. It makes anyone see a 1 min illusion and depending on what Ban wants you to believe that same effect will be induced on you. So anything from turning someone into a vegetable, to minor damage, fate manip, reading someone's past or making them relive it, fear, paralysis, petrification etc etc.

Reality is based on someone's beliefs, if Ban makes you strongly believe something reality will respond. Not only that but it can lead to unintentional self BFR's by making someone believe they won and therefore leave the battle field, and more.

Resistance to mind hax and reality warping won't do you any good. And all of his is thought based without requiring any form of movement. He won vs Lucetta and her 8D resistances and Hax due to this ability.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Precog, Reactive Evolution, Fate Manipulation, Power-Nullification and more I likely missed all come from his Almighty.
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Yes you do missed some ability

Almighty
Some clarifications that are not listed in his profile:
>Yes his teleportation is based on fate manipulation (rare types of teleportation duh)

>Almighty attack speed is instantaneous and Yhwach doesn't need to move from his position to broke something, like when he broke Ichigo Bankai or all bankai in the futures if not for Aizen mess up with his Almighty

>He also can make bypass barrier and make his normal attack to hit you regardless of whether you block it or not

>He can rewrite his death after he already dead, so no speed blitz GG, you need to overpowered or null the Almighty
 
I mean, according to your rules, the versatility of the ability is what is being taken into account, not the power of the ability, correct?

So the rules act as a stats equalizer, right? What the move can do is what is important, not the strength of it.

So what stops something like the Almighty or the Eye of Aeon from choosing a future where Jagan was not activated or in the Almighty's case - power nulling the ability?
 
Yes and no. It's not that we don't even look at the potency. It's just that, the potency is not the main factor. Example:

2-A precog > countless possibilities precog

But 2-A precog is not always going to be better than every eye ability that's not 2-A. Because it's simply precog.

This is ranking them based on. If you and I had a fight using this eyes, who would win? So obviously the potency matters, but if another ability has a shit ton of versatility, ease of use and is just generally really OP it can take a spot higher than another ability with higher potency.

The best example here would be Jagan and MeoDP. Yes the MeoDP have low 1-C conceptual death, but that's about it. Any type 8 or 9 will absolutely dessimate it. It has the potency, but compared to a 2-A Jagan it's still not enough since the Jagan is a lot easier to use, faster, the opponent would need a lot more resistances and is capable of more hax in general, so in a fight you'd much rather have the Jagan and it's versatility rather than low 1-C Conceptual Death, that requires you to physically act and cut wires and stuff like that (in a lot of cases people would 1 shot you before you can even do any of that).


About Jagan vs EoA and Almighty. The Jagan has the stuff i mentioned above with the bypassing resistances, being really specific and being capable of countless win condition effects based on beliefs, but if they were to fight. Jagan could just make them see fake futures. So the jagan could make them believe they are looking into the future without them actually doing so. The jagan shows them infinite futures they want or don't want to see and make them sure they won and commit self BFR or make them sure they can't win vs the jagan and Jagan decides what to do with them (induce any of the effects it wants).
 
Any ability that Yhwach "sees", he "knows" and then he "nulls" and becomes "immune" to said ability.

The only reason Kyoka Suigetsu worked is that it was cast on Yhwach before he activated the Almighty so it manipulated his perceptions of the future so he never "saw" it.

But if he already has the Almighty before being mind haxed, then he will "know" the power he is "seeing" in the fake futures that Ban makes, and just nullify the mind hax.

So showing him fake futures via mindhax isn't going to work if he already has the Almighty out.


Don't know about the Eye of Aeon though.
 
Nlf in this case. Yhwach ain't touching Jagan via potency. So the Jagan keeps it's spot. But even then. The jagan works by "looking into Ban's eyes". Also the fact that Kyoka Suigetsu worked similarly just proves my point even further that the Jagan can just manipulate the future he sees. Yhwach will be seeing what Ban wants him to see not the actual jagan. Also even if Yhwach goes into the future he won't even notice anything, since the jagan doesn't interact with reality. It's reality that interacts with belief. So Yhwach would just be seeing a future where he is dead, fate haxed, will manipped, etc etc any of it's beliefs, but without context behind it (IF the jagan even allows him to see the futures that is).
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Nlf in this case. Yhwach ain't touching Jagan via potency. So the Jagan keeps it's spot. But even then. The jagan works by "looking into Ban's eyes". Also the fact that Kyoka Suigetsu worked similarly just proves my point even further that the Jagan can just manipulate the future he sees. Yhwach will be seeing what Ban wants him to see not the actual jagan. Also even if Yhwach goes into the future he won't even notice anything, since the jagan doesn't interact with reality. It's reality that interacts with belief. So Yhwach would just be seeing a future where he is dead, fate haxed, will manipped, etc etc any of it's beliefs, but without context behind it (IF the jagan even allows him to see the futures that is).
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Your rules specifically negate the potency of the ability in this case.

"So not necessarily strongest or higher tier but the ones who would be the most useful or most devastating to fight against"

The Almighty is far more versatile in this scenario.

If this wasn't the case, then Mystic Eyes of Death Perception would be far superior to Jagan as it is Conceptual destruction on a Low 1-C level.


And did you ignore what I wrote? Kyoka Suigetsu only worked on Yhwach because he didn't have the Almighty on and protecting him when it was cast.

Kyoka Suigetsu working on Yhwach via a technicality doesn't prove your point in the slightest as there is a reason as to why it worked that isn't applicable in this scenario because he will already have "his eyes" open, and thus he will "know" that what he is "seeing" is an illusion and that said illusion will "take his side".

In an actual fight, Jagan would be better because of its power, but in a measure of its versatility where the potency is disregarded - the Almighty is the better ability with more annoying powers to work around.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception has low 1-C conceptual killing. And it has killed this "Infinite futures, choose the best one" ability canonically.
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Why does none of what you have said are listed on her profile?
 
Avalon: The Everdistant Utopia: Excalibur's scabbard, a Divine Construct of the same make. Passively, Avalon bestows immortality and Regenerationn upon its wielder; they do not age and can regenerate even from blows that remove most of their torso and their heart. It cannot, however, regenerate from the destruction of the brain. However, its true power is in its active use, as an "absolute defense". It shields Artoria in Avalon, the land of the fairies, the unreachable utopia that she strived to reach in life. It dissipates into magical particles and becomes a "portable fortress" that blocks off any interference, even all the way up to the sixth dimension. It is on the level of true magic, and not even the Five Magics can bypass the barrier.

The above thing is something MeoDP has no issues with destroying.
 
@Warren Valion You didn't get my point. Jagan has lower potency than MeoDP but it has a TON more versatility so it makes up for the potency difference. Whereas while the Almighty doesn't have that much of a versatility difference to make up for the potency difference. That's the point. So potency matters but if versatility or other traits can make up for potency then it desirves to be a "better eye".

@Others

I added Leonardo's eye.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
@Warren Valion You didn't get my point. Jagan has lower potency than MeoDP but it has a TON more versatility so it makes up for the potency difference. Whereas while the Almighty doesn't have that much of a versatility difference to make up for the potency difference. That's the point. So potency matters but if versatility or other traits can make up for potency then it desirves to be a "better eye".
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I did get your point, I just disagree with it.

And I don't see how Jagan is the better eye. The Almighty is far more versatile:

"Teleportation, Absorption (All Types), Precognition (Yhwach can see all possible futures), Information Analysis (Yhwach can understand all powers he sees in the future), Fate Manipulation (Yhwach can choose between and change the futures that lie before him, and can even rewrite the future in which he died), Immortality (Type 4), Reactive Evolution and/or Power Nullification (All powers that Yhwach sees in the future will be incapable of harming him or defeating him), Regenerationn Negation (Yhwach can rewrite the future so that everything he destroys will remain broken in the future, even with Orihime's ability to reject past events and causality she was unable to repair Tensa Zangetsu after it was broken by Yhwach)"

Being able to see all of the future, understand the mechanics of all the power that you see in every timeline that you see, gain resistance to all the powers that you see, and nullify the user from using said power and regenerating is far better than mind manipulation that only last for a minute and can only be used on the same person every twenty-four hours that has different effects for the individual person.

If the Almighty was on the same level of potency, the Almighty would just negate it while simultaneously making the user resistant to Jagan's power.


It is a better ability.

**** it, I'll even put it to a poll - let the people decide.


Which is the more versatile eye?

The Almighty
1

Jagan
4


The poll was created at 18:50 on March 11, 2019, and so far 5 people voted.
Please wait, submitting your vote...
 
Superman's laser eyes.

Who gives a sh*t if your eyes are OP haxlords. Simple heat vision is so much cooler and Superman's is more iconic, visually appealing, and popular than all these guys combined.

I'm only half joking.
 
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