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So you are saying he's gonna destroy universes just by moving? Lol what? Full power magic gods are all at least high multiversal and such is their destructive powers. What type of wings does he get? What was the third tree already?Accelerate420 said:Realistically the way it's looking, he's gonna be at the apex just under Full Power Magic Gods. Until we learn what the wings do at least. Even then it's hinted at that he'll gain power beyond it too since the Magic Gods are people who 'stopped half-way up the mountain' and Accel intends to climb it and beyond.
Who knows? Accelerator's main character gimmick is he attains power the more bullshit encounters he runs into. Maybe he'll eventually reach that high.KTouma545 said:So you are saying he's gonna destroy universes just by moving? Lol what? Full power magic gods are all at least high multiversal and such is their destructive powers. What type of wings does he get? What was the third tree already?Accelerate420 said:Realistically the way it's looking, he's gonna be at the apex just under Full Power Magic Gods. Until we learn what the wings do at least. Even then it's hinted at that he'll gain power beyond it too since the Magic Gods are people who 'stopped half-way up the mountain' and Accel intends to climb it and beyond.
Theoryetically speaking, at the moment, MG's should win in pure output but when it comes to their more conceptual abilities and the like Accelerator may be able to take the win if he's able to enforce his own laws on the world to the ends of the galaxy and more. It's likely even phase creation could be something he could work against. He may not be able to blow up a universe as far as I know/create one, but he could counter MG's who try. It's a very rock-paper-scissors way of looking at it where the MG's have only rock to play and that's -blow up the multiverse by moving-.KTouma545 said:Thank you Notstn.
What I don't understand is this new tree.. 545 installed the 78 cards in Accel giving him knowledge beyond the aeons right? (I'm quoting people above) also he now has the aid of this tree with grants him an understanding about "everything". Could you define everything?
So making a quick recap of his upgrades: 78 cards, new wings (they have to show feats, but comparable to Aiwass), knowledge to nullify aeons Magick or beings created by aeons, galaxy level attacks, 545 knowledge in magic.. Its a lot but to rival a full power magic God? Hmmm 100% Othinus would smack him up around. Or I missed something?
I believe Thelemic "true free will" can be used to erase the notion of MGs without requiring any sort of rituals, magical items or spells. To add to how broken that is, "Level 6" implies pretty much near omniscience, which would include all known weaknesses and plans of MGs. Aeon of Osiris "old magic" still heavily relies on such even for beings like Othinus; It's comparable in destructive power, catch is, MGs are still casters, artifact and mana users. Aeon of Horus concept of "true free will" does not require such. It's basically a result of a flawed and incomplete idea of an artificial heaven for every human, reality being, only Accelerator seems to have (?) reached that and that's pretty much at the end of LNs after a massive redemption story (He's a well written and developed character, his story especially as one of the main characters being my favourite).Accelerate420 said:Theoryetically speaking, at the moment, MG's should win in pure output but when it comes to their more conceptual abilities and the like Accelerator may be able to take the win if he's able to enforce his own laws on the world to the ends of the galaxy and more. It's likely even phase creation could be something he could work against. He may not be able to blow up a universe as far as I know/create one, but he could counter MG's who try. It's a very rock-paper-scissors way of looking at it where the MG's have only rock to play and that's -blow up the multiverse by moving-.KTouma545 said:Thank you Notstn.
What I don't understand is this new tree.. 545 installed the 78 cards in Accel giving him knowledge beyond the aeons right? (I'm quoting people above) also he now has the aid of this tree with grants him an understanding about "everything". Could you define everything?
So making a quick recap of his upgrades: 78 cards, new wings (they have to show feats, but comparable to Aiwass), knowledge to nullify aeons Magick or beings created by aeons, galaxy level attacks, 545 knowledge in magic.. Its a lot but to rival a full power magic God? Hmmm 100% Othinus would smack him up around. Or I missed something?
That specific state (specifically when his new wings came out) that would be a glimpse of true powers of Aeon of Horus. I'll note that he could not kill a deity, but he did manage to split the demon from its physical body, something Aleister (albeit depowered) was unable to do, meeting a seemingly impossible precondition to killing the otherwise immortal demon (a demonic deity is still a deity). He seems to have used a pretty much universal attack to do so without casting or anything alike (only taunting the demon once before unleashing it), that's "true free will" for you.KTouma545 said:So basing on what you guys explaining Accel should get a terrific vsbattles upgrade:
-Tier 3C (galaxy level) -Power nullification (having gained knowledge beyond aeons) -new wings (still without feats) -nigh omniscience (?) -qlihpah 545 and third tree aid
What do you think?
Most of anime can be fit into Aeons. Most of Fairy tail evil characters for example believed in Zeref as savior.. Sounds like Aeon of Isis.. Fairy tail guild believed in self realization, despite not being Christians. Sounds like accelerator case and he was put into Aeon of Horus... Black Clover has Christianity in it etc... Everu fantasy anime with a religion can be fit into aeons or seems like that.Accelerate420 said:Damn. AFter this novel is over, Accelerator's gonna get some MASSIVE buffs and revisions if I'm interpreting what he did to Coronzon right too. The fact of what his current height can do too is very interesting, as most fictions have their foot in christianity or Aeons in general as well. Only difficulty I'd see is if it comes to applying that to fantasies, but even most fantasies have stuff along the lines of Aeons in terms of how the world operates.
I think pre-NT21 Accelerator is still a good "baseline" as far as comparing power (especially relative to other LNs/Manga/Anime). End of NT22 Accelerator is extremely hard to scale, assuming he keeps "true free will", aside from beings that exist outside of phases (deities), well, he's just another super broken character (though unlike most, I doubt he's going to do a lot with that power, a lot of his development also came from learning restraint in using power), the guy literally just wants something like a family (Aiho, LO, Worst, Puzzle (?!)), something he seemed to have lost out on as a child. I mean for a long time he considered himself useless "good for nothing villian", and on several occassions was pretty much prepared to die for his newfound "family". Ironically compared to him at the very start, where he pretty much had a god complex, current Accelerator will likely turn out "fine" even if he has such power, he does share some traits with Aiwass namely not interfering with most things aside from protecting his new family. I'm hoping for a GROUP reunion too, though unlikely, it would be pretty heartwarming too.Ellydesperado said:Most of anime can be fit into Aeons. Most of Fairy tail evil characters for example believed in Zeref as savior.. Sounds like Aeon of Isis.. Fairy tail guild believed in self realization, despite not being Christians. Sounds like accelerator case and he was put into Aeon of Osiris... Black Clover has Christianity in it etc... Everu fantasy anime with a religion can be fit into aeons or seems like that.Accelerate420 said:Damn. AFter this novel is over, Accelerator's gonna get some MASSIVE buffs and revisions if I'm interpreting what he did to Coronzon right too. The fact of what his current height can do too is very interesting, as most fictions have their foot in christianity or Aeons in general as well. Only difficulty I'd see is if it comes to applying that to fantasies, but even most fantasies have stuff along the lines of Aeons in terms of how the world operates.
Lol if he reached the galaxy he didn't reach the universe lol you're saying the galaxy is as big as universe? He added the tree to the cosmosAccelerate420 said:"By adding a large tree to the cosmos and thoroughly shaking the world out to the ends of the galaxy, he was applying a physical blow to a single person's flesh and blood" 'the world' is generally the term for 'universe' and 'phase' in Index. Kamachi has examples of separating the 'planet' from the 'world' various times so it's not a far-cry from possible universal level. It even says 'to the ends of the galaxy' which can be interpreted as going further or just a bit more. I'm not saying it's 100% universal but the logic is there.
Not what i said. Read it carefully. Kamachi interprets 'The world' and 'planet' differently, and he specifically mentions 'the world'. It's applied on the phase itself, so while as a sapling it only shook the galaxy, it's not a far-cry to say it can't be universal to some degree. But that's still only a possibility but the 3C is factual.KTouma545 said:Lol if he reached the galaxy he didn't reach the universe lol you're saying the galaxy is as big as universe? He added the tree to the cosmosAccelerate420 said:"By adding a large tree to the cosmos and thoroughly shaking the world out to the ends of the galaxy, he was applying a physical blow to a single person's flesh and blood" 'the world' is generally the term for 'universe' and 'phase' in Index. Kamachi has examples of separating the 'planet' from the 'world' various times so it's not a far-cry from possible universal level. It even says 'to the ends of the galaxy' which can be interpreted as going further or just a bit more. I'm not saying it's 100% universal but the logic is there.