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That's literally what he did with Coronzon's contract on Qliphah.Malox1696 said:
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Toaru Majutsu no Index Discussion Thread 5
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Qliphah doesn't take energy from the leylines though. Why would he be taking energy from it to mess with a abstract contract? He took the energy from the contract and cut off the parts which were causing draw backs. Maybe he outsourced the leylines , but Qliphah is not a grimoire and doesn't require them to exist. "
"You hadn't figured it out? You were created by passing energy through the Qliphoth according to a special process, so you're made from a type of energy, right? How is that any different from the grimoires that suck energy up from the ground or whatever?" She takes energy from the abstract Qliphah, so Accel had to interact with an abstract energy to do so. Accel's power is being able to do whatever the hell he wants with vectors if he understands it, so this shouldn't be surprising.
"You hadn't figured it out? You were created by passing energy through the Qliphoth according to a special process, so you're made from a type of energy, right? How is that any different from the grimoires that suck energy up from the ground or whatever?" She takes energy from the abstract Qliphah, so Accel had to interact with an abstract energy to do so. Accel's power is being able to do whatever the hell he wants with vectors if he understands it, so this shouldn't be surprising.
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Slight correction. She is a mass of energy that is similar to telesma.Malox1696 said:
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I intend on reading up on the 78 Tarot when the book arrives, the abilities which will be fun to see whether Accel can actually apply them or not. As far as I know though he only has the knowledge instilled from them and I'm not too sure if he himself can manipulate the contents or if he needs to outsource them to Qliphah.
That being said, regardless, she's still taking energy from an abstract-tree embedded in reality itself, which is different from the more-so tangible Leyline mana.
That being said, regardless, she's still taking energy from an abstract-tree embedded in reality itself, which is different from the more-so tangible Leyline mana.
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So should we combine the preHeadshot and postHeadshot into "pre-Angel Wings" or something?
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I wouldn't combine them no.
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Shouldn't the page still be better formatted? At the moment it kinda implies that being shot in the head made Accelerator far stronger and that characters like Kakine, Gabriel or Fiamma should be far stronger as a result.
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He is stronger than before though. Why would Fiamma, Kakine and Gabriel be stronger as a result? The upgrades are based on the current arc, there is a note at the bottom of his page explains that.
Note: Current statistics are based on the forms of Accelerator as he currently is in the novels.
So none of these characters should scale as there is no proof that Accel has always been 5-B or if it's just a recent thing and none of them have fought current Accel.
Maybe adding "Post NT 22" would help?
Note: Current statistics are based on the forms of Accelerator as he currently is in the novels.
So none of these characters should scale as there is no proof that Accel has always been 5-B or if it's just a recent thing and none of them have fought current Accel.
Maybe adding "Post NT 22" would help?
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There is no techically about it.Malox1696 said:
Post head shot > Pre head shot
That is all. Calculations mean nothing in the scheme of things.
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Yeah, especially considering how he's supposedly lost a lot of his calculating power after the headshot.
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Also if post headshot Accelerator is superior, shouldn't Fuse-Kanzaki, Fiamma, Gabriel, etc also be upgraded.
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Again no because he has only recently been superior, meaning Post NT 22.Tyranno223 said:
Again stats are from Post NT 22, not Pre NT 22.
Pre NT 22 was 7-B with 6-A using earth's rotational energy.
Post NT 22 is 5-B, Likely far higher.
Calculations don't mean anything here.
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Yeah so shouldn't Accelerator keep his Pre-NT22 stats as well? I don't see any reason for those stats to be completely removed. We could also just do this to his profiles to prevent cluttering.
AP: 7-B, High 6-A by borrowing Earth's energy | 7-B, High 6-C with Black Wings, higher with White Wings, High 6-A by borrowing Earth's energy | At least 5-B likely higher, higher with Black and White Wings, 4-B with Platinum Wings
Keys: Pre-Headshot | Post-Headshot (Pre-NT22) | Post-Headshot (Post-NT22)
AP: 7-B, High 6-A by borrowing Earth's energy | 7-B, High 6-C with Black Wings, higher with White Wings, High 6-A by borrowing Earth's energy | At least 5-B likely higher, higher with Black and White Wings, 4-B with Platinum Wings
Keys: Pre-Headshot | Post-Headshot (Pre-NT22) | Post-Headshot (Post-NT22)
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Can I use this suggstion? I'm going to bring this up in a new thread.
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Thanks.
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Accelerator Post-Headshot thread https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2904140
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Gabriel is beaten easily, but Fiamma's conceptual "I win" attack seems to lack vectors, so he's iffy. I'd say he might be beaten using his "Invisible Energy" which seems to be super-effective against non-Thelemic magic (see below)ZERO7772 said:
Accel got a new power-up in NT22 in the form of Platinum Wings (after his black and white ones) which allows him to negate the Regenerationn of beings of a lower Aeon (such as the nerfed Magic Gods). Nephthys specifically got wrecked by the invisible energy, which he can see around him in this form.
He created the wings using a 3rd Holy Tree called the Clonoth (actually the Misaka Network) and the occultic knowledge beyond the Abyss of Qliphah Puzzle (because puzzle-chan is basically a clone of Coronzon in the sense that she used her body as a template to create Puzzle) By inserting this new tree into reality, it changed how the cosmology of the Toaru world worked, almost like a metaphysical Law Manip.
And this was foreshadowed back during Misaka's Lv. 6 Shift and Accel manga's Shift. And since Accel is connected to the Network 24/7, it gave him a power boost. Accel is now a Transcendant Being. He can also force any target to undergo an Astral Projection by using the Clonoth, shaking the entire galaxy in the process. The text compared it to how Holistic Espers work (large-scale phenomenon to make small-scale results) as they were introduced in NT4. That seems to be the short and simple version.
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@Destinydude0 explained it better than what I could.
Accel is not just connected to the Clonoth but is actually said to control and define the Clonoth as a transcendant being. It's unknown what this means though but it's possible this might mean that Accel controls the metaphysical side of the universe. This is only theorectical though since, like I said this is unknown.
There's also the case of what him being beyond aeons means. Coronzon is beyond aeons but can only go up and down the tree but Accel should even be beyond that. Again what that means is unknown as the aeon thing seem to be a bit inconsistent to be honest. One thing is for certain is that he was able to nearly kill Neph, by negating her regenation, he actually only cut of a lock of her but the principle was that if the attack had hit then Neph would have been done for. This could theorectically mean that no magic will work on him although he does suffer from magic recoil still.
The Clonoth and the being beyond Aeons thing might be a more powerful upgrades than the wings, depending on what they actually mean.
Accel is not just connected to the Clonoth but is actually said to control and define the Clonoth as a transcendant being. It's unknown what this means though but it's possible this might mean that Accel controls the metaphysical side of the universe. This is only theorectical though since, like I said this is unknown.
There's also the case of what him being beyond aeons means. Coronzon is beyond aeons but can only go up and down the tree but Accel should even be beyond that. Again what that means is unknown as the aeon thing seem to be a bit inconsistent to be honest. One thing is for certain is that he was able to nearly kill Neph, by negating her regenation, he actually only cut of a lock of her but the principle was that if the attack had hit then Neph would have been done for. This could theorectically mean that no magic will work on him although he does suffer from magic recoil still.
The Clonoth and the being beyond Aeons thing might be a more powerful upgrades than the wings, depending on what they actually mean.
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Gabriel gets defeated easily by the way. I'm not even sure astro hand would even work as Accel has a much better understading of magic and laws that was previously unknown to him and what he doesn't understand he has Qliphah for.
Fiamma is a bit of a tricky one in general.
Fiamma is a bit of a tricky one in general.
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