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Time Lords and TARDIS additions
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@Hellbeast
Omega was able to send an Anti-Matter creature through a compressed beam of light, which travels faster than normal light. The distance was stated to be millions of Star Systems by a Scientist at U.N.I.T, and considering the Time Lords didn't know much about its source at a time well after indicates that this happened rather quickly. He also did the same but in reverse in, at the very most, the space of one episode.
Now here's some of his quotes
Time Lord President: "You see councilor, a black hole."
Councilor: "But that's a nowhere. A no place. A void. According to all known laws nothing can exist there."
Time Lord President: "Yet somehow, through this black hole, vital cosmic energy is draining away inspite of all we can do to check it."
Other Time Lord: "Already the time travel facility is in danger."
Time Lord President: "Without it, we shall be helpless. Unless the energy losses stop, the whole fabric of space-time will be destroyed. We are being consumed, and we can find no way to fight back."
Councilor: "Are you telling me we're up against an adversary — a force — equal to our own?"
Time Lord President: "Equal and opposite to our own."
Councilor: "A force which inhabits a universe whereby by definition even we cannot exist."
Time Lord President: "Yes. A force in the universe of Anti-Matter."
So the page isn't wrong about his ability.
This is later stated: "It's draining away power as fast as we pump it in sir."
And this: "A black hole in space, the universe of Anti-Matter, unknown forces at least equal and opposite to our own."
Also, he did state directly that he caused it.
The 2nd Doctor stated that he also controls the black hole as well as the Anti-Matter universe.
Omega states that the TARDIS can't escape unless he wills it, either meaning he's more powerful than it in his world, or that he can block off access to the TARDIS' travel.
Omega was able to send an Anti-Matter creature through a compressed beam of light, which travels faster than normal light. The distance was stated to be millions of Star Systems by a Scientist at U.N.I.T, and considering the Time Lords didn't know much about its source at a time well after indicates that this happened rather quickly. He also did the same but in reverse in, at the very most, the space of one episode.
Now here's some of his quotes
Time Lord President: "You see councilor, a black hole."
Councilor: "But that's a nowhere. A no place. A void. According to all known laws nothing can exist there."
Time Lord President: "Yet somehow, through this black hole, vital cosmic energy is draining away inspite of all we can do to check it."
Other Time Lord: "Already the time travel facility is in danger."
Time Lord President: "Without it, we shall be helpless. Unless the energy losses stop, the whole fabric of space-time will be destroyed. We are being consumed, and we can find no way to fight back."
Councilor: "Are you telling me we're up against an adversary — a force — equal to our own?"
Time Lord President: "Equal and opposite to our own."
Councilor: "A force which inhabits a universe whereby by definition even we cannot exist."
Time Lord President: "Yes. A force in the universe of Anti-Matter."
So the page isn't wrong about his ability.
This is later stated: "It's draining away power as fast as we pump it in sir."
And this: "A black hole in space, the universe of Anti-Matter, unknown forces at least equal and opposite to our own."
Also, he did state directly that he caused it.
The 2nd Doctor stated that he also controls the black hole as well as the Anti-Matter universe.
Omega states that the TARDIS can't escape unless he wills it, either meaning he's more powerful than it in his world, or that he can block off access to the TARDIS' travel.
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I also found something else.
The 2nd and 3rd Doctors were able to establish "contact" which allowed the 3rd to give current information to the 2nd. This supports the Telepathy. They also mind link with this.
Edit: They also connected with the 1st Doctor.
The 2nd and 3rd Doctors were able to establish "contact" which allowed the 3rd to give current information to the 2nd. This supports the Telepathy. They also mind link with this.
Edit: They also connected with the 1st Doctor.
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So when are the abilities being added?
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The Moment being High Complex Multiverse level. MFTL+ Omega with blast speed. As his compressed light beam (which is stated to be faster than light) could move across millions of solar systems in a relatively short time. And Math Manipulation.
These haven't been discussed.
These haven't been discussed.
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The Guardians would have all time lord abilities, and then some.
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I think the TARDIS should have air manipulation, as it can extend an air bubble around itself.
Also sound manipulation, as it could make a, I think it's called a sound corridor, in The Witch's Familiar so Davros could hear him.
Also sound manipulation, as it could make a, I think it's called a sound corridor, in The Witch's Familiar so Davros could hear him.
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Also I think the Guardians get stronger the more prominence their concept gains
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Weird that the celestial toymaker is stronger than the TARDIS but the black guardian isn't. Also pretty sure CT is missing a ton of abillities like plot manipulation.
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He depowered the TARDIS and made the doctor unable to use it until he finished the toymaker's game
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Perhaps the Tardie keeping the Giardian out is an outlier? I mean it does seem odd it can keep out a being who is a God to 11 dimensional civilisations and brings and yet gets kept out by the Tardis which a Salek empire rendered powerless
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Although the doctor with prep should have High 1-C durability using force fields or transduction barriers.
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Well, tbf he might not have had all his defences active. When he did, he could easily eject the guy and keep out another.
The Daleks designed weapons to combat TARDISes, also it too likely did not have all defences up then, as they didn't even attempt to turn it off when he activated the extra shielding.
I found out a way to watch the Toy Maker episode.
The Daleks designed weapons to combat TARDISes, also it too likely did not have all defences up then, as they didn't even attempt to turn it off when he activated the extra shielding.
I found out a way to watch the Toy Maker episode.
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What level of High 1-C do we mean? Because I'm not sold on it being Guardian tier.
Also the Toymaker should have a lot more powers (and a new weakness) added
Also the Toymaker should have a lot more powers (and a new weakness) added
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It fought the quantum archangel, which is high 1-C albeit below the guardians.
Toymaker has plot manipulation, toonforce, power nullification, power bestowal, creation, etc.
Toymaker has plot manipulation, toonforce, power nullification, power bestowal, creation, etc.
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Yes, abstract existence and type 8 immortality.
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From just a bit of the episode, I found that CT can also turn The Doctor intangible and invisible. Also, he breached the TARDIS to do it, but The Doctor did imply he could make it stop, meaning those weren't the full defences.
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The Toymaker could create multiple empty versions of the TARDIS in his game, they were indeed physical. So Creation?
The CT could make The Doctor unable to speak.
He also could see The Doctor despite his invisibility.
The Toymaker could accelerate The Doctor ahead 30 moves in a game, and create a force field.
He can also "Use his mind to turn your strength against yourself." This is shown when Steven punched him but ended up getting hurt.
CT said he could grant The Doctor power.
The Doctor describes him as having immortality type 1. He also says "Don't talk too soon. The mind is indestructible, so is the Toymaker" after his companion stated they'd never meet the toymaker again, pretty much cementing his abstract immortality.
The CT could make The Doctor unable to speak.
He also could see The Doctor despite his invisibility.
The Toymaker could accelerate The Doctor ahead 30 moves in a game, and create a force field.
He can also "Use his mind to turn your strength against yourself." This is shown when Steven punched him but ended up getting hurt.
CT said he could grant The Doctor power.
The Doctor describes him as having immortality type 1. He also says "Don't talk too soon. The mind is indestructible, so is the Toymaker" after his companion stated they'd never meet the toymaker again, pretty much cementing his abstract immortality.
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If the key to time gives the doctor the guardian's power, he should also have all his abilities, including his plot manipulation
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Looks like the Doc might become the strongest High 2-C soon
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@Zach and Hellbeast
CT tampered with the TARDIS in an unknown manner sometime after they won the last game.
The TARDIS was not on, so it didn't have any defence aside from the already existing super tough exterior.
I found something else. He didn't just eject the Toymaker, he materialised the TARDIS around his realm, created a new Toyroom, and ejected both CT's realm and CT himself.
CT tampered with the TARDIS in an unknown manner sometime after they won the last game.
The TARDIS was not on, so it didn't have any defence aside from the already existing super tough exterior.
I found something else. He didn't just eject the Toymaker, he materialised the TARDIS around his realm, created a new Toyroom, and ejected both CT's realm and CT himself.
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Bump.
I found some more information. In The Name of The Doctor, the TARDIS was able to hear River Song despite the latter being a data ghost, which can't be heard, seen, touched, etc, without a mental link or through unknown means that The Doctor had.
I found some more information. In The Name of The Doctor, the TARDIS was able to hear River Song despite the latter being a data ghost, which can't be heard, seen, touched, etc, without a mental link or through unknown means that The Doctor had.
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Extrasensory Perception perhaps?
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