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Tier Low 6-B Tournament of Regeneration 2022: Sage Centipede (OPM) vs Jin Mu-Won

Zaratthustra said:
Well, Evil Water seems to have higher Ap so he has the advantage there but the durability is low...and since it's mindless then the AP advantage is kind of a letdown.

Because of the low durability, each attack done by Jin will be devasting but its regeneration will be pretty problematic as Jin's neg goes up to just High-Low but at the same time while Evil Water has the AP advantage our boy has the information analysis and the skills to dodge, counter and attack plus you know having a mind that actually plans things. A good thing is that Jin has pretty devasting air attacks with his sword attacks that reach in hundreds of meters so it could damage + scatter the water...not that it would help much since really high regen.

Sincerely, the Evil Water likely won't touch Jin while he won't be able to put it down cause of the regen but if enough time is given he will likely beat it over a prolonged fight by forcing it to disperse its water...so my take is that either it ends in a drawn or after a long long fight Jin will defeat it by attacking it till it remains without water. Some could say why won't Evil Water fuse with the Ocean...but I don't think the geode planet where they fight has an Ocean...so a Ben 10 supporter should mention if it has.
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How does it counter possession by snow flower?
 
Zaratthustra said:
While Evil Water has the AP advantage our boy has the information analysis and the skills to dodge, counter and attack plus you know having a mind that actually plans things.
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Rikimarox2 said:
Although I just don't see Evil Water even touching Jin.
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Ocean Grand Cannon (Evil Natural Ocean's main attack) has 153.938 km^3 AoE, and with it, it destroyed a large portion of Z-City
Has Jin-mu dodged a kilometer wide AoE explosion?
A good thing is that Jin has pretty devasting air attacks with his sword attacks that reach in hundreds of meters so it could damage + scatter the water
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Also it seems Evil eye has the ap advantage, but Jin also has one focus, which one shot Jo, whom had attacks that were capable of turning Jin unconscious had it not been for his sword. And that attack has long ass range and is devastating.
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Evil Natural Ocean is like, 2,5665685 × 10^15 m^3 big tho
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Rikimarox2 said:
I mean, it needs to grab snow flower, or be stuck inside it, or dropped by Jin.

None of which is likely to happen as Jin likely won't get hit even once here due to info analysis and skill.
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assuming they counter this, I’m going for snowflower as a wincon.
 
He dodges attacks that were compared to rain, attacks that have Aoe that pulverizes mountains, etc...

This shit should be a piece of cake, especially when they are speed equal.

Oh yeah, even pre timeskip, Jin was capable of dodging a plethora of Danmaku attacks that looked like meteor shower without getting scratched even once. I believe it's on the profile too.
 
I mean, can Jin-mu even kill it when it goes back to normal? Tatsumaki's psychokinesis and Saitama's tremendously powerful punches were able to scatter it into many droplets, but in both cases, it survived. Pig God's powerful stomach acids were the only things able to end the life of the Evil Natural Water by dissolving the water.
 
In that case why did you say anyone can win by dispersing it if even 5C characters couldn't do anything to it?

Hell, if 5C characters can't disperse it, then who in the tourney can? Also was Evil Water near the ocean or...?
 
Rikimarox2 said:
In that case why did you say anyone can win by dispersing it if even 5C characters couldn't do anything to it?

Hell, if 5C characters can't disperse it, then who in the tourney can? Also was Evil Water near the ocean or...?
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I did want to use Gilgamesh but he was too op
 
Rikimarox2 said:
In that case why did you say anyone can win by dispersing it if even 5C characters couldn't do anything to it?

Hell, if 5C characters can't disperse it, then who in the tourney can? Also was Evil Water near the ocean or...?
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Both of them dispered it, but they didn't kill it
If ENO gets dispersed, it can become as low as Low 7-C or even 10-C (As its heart)
But the heart is also a transparent liquid, and I don't think Jin-mu has any means to torch or vaporize it
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Both of them dispered it, but they didn't kill it
If ENO gets dispersed, it can become as low as Low 7-C or even 10-C (As its heart)
But the heart is also a transparent liquid, and I don't think Jin-mu has any means to torch or vaporize it
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Imagine being outlasted via slowly evaporating at room temperatures
 
Remember that ENW can absorb moisture from the air to replenish its water, and Iaian and the others were unsure of whether or not they could kill it even if it was reduced to the heart alone.

That said, I don't have any other input, I just thought this thing was being overlooked.
 
Once dispersed can Evil Mineral Water reform from the dispersed water or does he need his main body need physical contact to collect the dispersed water?
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Once dispersed can Evil Mineral Water reform from the dispersed water or does he need his main body need physical contact to collect the dispersed water?
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The latter, I think. But does Jin have enough physical strength to blow away ENW? And can he even evaporate ENW to kill it? I am 100% sure that Jin will dodge/block any-and-all of ENW's blows, but it doesn't seem like Jin has any means to kill ENW.
 
Evil Ocean Water is already in the sea, because it started merging with it, so this battle must take place near one, because without it ENW is only Low 7-B.
 
SamanPatou said:
Evil Ocean Water is already in the sea, because it started merging with it, so this battle must take place near one, because without it ENW is only Low 7-B.
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Well there is no Ocean in this location but just for this match we'll have one so we can give it a fighting chance.
 
Sweet. So, uh... Evil Ocean Water is the size of an actual Ocean, then? That is pretty damn big if this is true. Like, I don't think being ungodlily skilled is enough to save a ground-based swordsman from being surrounded by all sides by an ocean and just getting drowned by it.
 
It isn't really the size of the ocean because it didn't have the time to fully merge with the sea, but overtime it condtantly expands its mass until it becomes one with the water of the whole planet.

I think in this match we are using the first manifestation of ENO, which still is quite big and Saitama had to pull out a 5-C AP feat in order to kill it with brute force.
 
Alright I'm confused now. It took a 5C attack to disperse it but not kill it? How would a tier 6 fare against this then?
 
Rikimarox2 said:
Alright I'm confused now. It took a 5C attack to disperse it but not kill it? How would a tier 6 fare against this then?
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We don't really know if ENO is actually dead, Saitama's attack splattered it around, which might have been enough to kill it (like being divided into extremely small drops), but the saga has yet to end, so who knows, it might come back again.

A tier 6 could work around the issue with abilities and such, we only know that incapacitating/killing it with raw strength alone and nothing else should require about 5-C power for a single hit.
 
Again, I genuinely think that ENO can't be beaten by Jin. What is a highly skilled man with a sword going to do with a literal body of water that can surround him at all sides, can't be harmed by any of his attacks via being water, and doesn't have to hax to kill and/or incap him.
 
Jin lacks hax to kill Evil Natural Ocean, pretty much everyone else can defeat ocean shall we give the win to Ocean ?
 
Let's hear the opinions of Jin supporters first before moving on, at the very least. If they don't say anything for a few hours, you could give the win to Ocean or smth. We also need to see how Yu vs Issei match turns out, after all. So we have time.
 
Same can be said for Evil Water...it can't defeat Jin or beat him while Jin can still damage it just not kill. He also has the mind/paralysis with his sword tho.
 
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