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Tier 9-A The Black Desert Tournament (2023): Gazef Stronoff vs Adam Jensen (Quarter Final-4)

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Match Rules:
  • Match rules are stated in the Tournament thread.
  • Both are 9-A
  • Speed will be equalized
  • Both have their optional equipment
  • No Prep Time or Information of each other
  • Both start 30 meters away from each other
  • Location: Battles take place at the Desert with an abandoned town (Image)


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Result:
Characters:Attack Potency:Votes:
⚔️Gazef Stronoff:128 megajoules = 0.03 Tons2 (Annoymous, Hippo)
😎Adam Jensen:194.76 Megajoules = 0.046 Tons7 (DD, Aachintya31, Reiner, Not Icarus, Fanta, Random, Adem)
Inconclusive:
 
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  • 1.52x AP Advantage for Jensen
  • Reacting to Bullet should be no issue (something he can do in base form)+ he can increase his speed further
Needs to know what Gazef leads with I'd assume sword ?
 
Gazef will typically lead with buffing himself with martial arts while charging at the enemy, using techniques such as possibility sense and sense weakness to decide his best starter move

he generally opens with sixfold slash of light, but will also use things like flow acceleration and instant counter if those are the better options
 
Yeah no....this is one the most advanced human cyborg and who defeated pretty much all military forces on Earth in future.......too many resistances and his Cyborgization will boost his Speed, Reflexes and GPS track Gazef all the time. (Along with Lifting Strength advantage)

Adam Jesen is a Former SWAT Member he is military trained as well as was an an excellent police officer he has several take down techniques and near perfect Stealth. Jesen being a cyborg has great agility and can easily take down military trained officers and guards and has excellent hacking which allows him to hack into any military on Earth.
Resistance and Attacks:
The TESLA launches electric darts from Jensen's hand to knock out people and deactivate electronics

Locks onto and homes in on up to four targets (Homing Target)

An in-built version of the P.E.P.S. weapon, shooting a powerful concussive ball of energy. Can also release a quick, weaker blast without charging, and be focused into a more powerful beam to knock out individualsMD

TITAN is a skin augmentation which appears and disappears from Jensen at his wishes, negating damage until it deactivates, either from its energy running out or Jensen triggering it (DAMAGE Negation)
His hand enlarges to grab and spin an opponent's head
  • Can become fully invisible


The most powerful attack he has is Typhoon Explosive which launches 7 Explosives at once (Energy of the entire attack: (7 explosions) 0.000109914364*7 = 0.000769400548 tons)



Jensen with Speed+Reflexes+Damage negation+GPS Tracking+CQC Blade Takedown = Jensen FRA

I don't think Typhoon Explosives would be needed. He'll keep on Healing and dodging via amps and ultimately land one of his Takedown execution.
(I have also not even touched the fact that Jensen has Sleep/Knockout Gas and Rifle shot that knocks people out)
 
ok, so before I get into the real debate, I'll address some of the useless stuff:

  • Jensens punches alone can destroy walls (scan). As well as knock people out with one hit (scan)
  • Can break people neck via punching through walls (Scan)
these are replicable by any 9-A brick - purely AP feats

while these are cool, they will be pretty much useless considering this fight takes place in the desert. Gazef is also a fairly straightforward fighter who relies on mainly face to face combat, se detection skills wouldn't come in handy here.

Gazef is a completely organic being, with zero traces of machinery on him.

Gazef doesn't have any electricity attacks

like I mentioned earlier, stealth is unlikely to be an important factor here

so now onto the important stuff:

  • Combat against multiple military guards (scan). His Reflex Booster allows him to take defeat multiple armed men without a scatch in CQC Close quarter combat (scan)

while this is a pretty good skill feat, I would argue that Gazef has an even better one

even while completely exhausted due to overuse of martial arts, Gazef was able to avoid and deflect attacks from angels completely surrounding him:

“The hunt has entered its final stages. Do not let the beast rest — order your angels to attack consecutively.”

Even though Gazef desperately wanted a moment to recover, the angels surrounding him obeyed their masters and mercilessly attacked him, one after the other.

He somehow evaded the attack from behind, and parried a thrust from the side. He used the strong angles of his armor to deflect an angel’s charge from above.

Gazef wanted to counterattack his foes, but he was greatly outnumbered.

As his strength diminished, he could only take out one opponent at a time, since he lacked the stamina to use martial arts. As his subordinates fell one by one, the enemy’s attacks were concentrated on him.
its worth noting that each of these angels were considered to be more experienced than trained soldiers:

Gazef took down another angel as he muttered to himself. It would seem there would not be any more cheering no matter how many angels Gazef slew, since his men were worrying about the enemy coming at them.

They were superior in numbers, equipment, training, and individual ability.

The sole weapon of Gazef’s beleaguered men — their hope for victory — was gone.

and that this was a Gazef so exhausted that he quite literally collapsed of exhaustion a moment later:

The world before him shook mightily.

Not good!

Gazef used all his strength to try and maintain his balance. However, something seemed wrong with his body, and the strength that should have held him up was nowhere to be found.

The itch of touching the grass spread through his body, and Gazef realised that he had fallen.

He struggled to rise again, but his body betrayed him.


while it seems Adam has some nice speed boosts, Gazef has some good ones of his own

using the martial art instant counter, he was able to completely cut through an angel mid-swing:

Then, as though ordered to drown out the cheers, a huge wave of angels swept in, and one of them lunged at Gazef with its flaming sword.

“「Instant Counter」!”

Gazef used his martial art just as the angel swung, and his body blurred away like mist.

Halfway through its attack, the angel took a hit from Gazef. That hit reduced it to glittering dust.

and it should be noted that these angels are at least comparable to Gazef in speed when he isn't using martial arts:

He swung wildly at the angel, but his poor balance meant that the angel easily evaded the attack.
in addition to that, while he doesn't have any direct showings of flow acceleration use he should be around the same skill level as someone like clementine, who made Ainz - someone comparable in speed - feel like he was slowed to a crawl when facing her:

However, even faster than that, Clementine used another martial art.

“「Flow Acceleration」.”

This martial art had a startling effect.

It felt as though someone had used time-controlling magic to slow time down. Everything moved slowly, as though immersed in some highly viscous fluid. The speed of Ainz’s swing slowed to a crawl.

However Clementine moved at the same speed in this decelerated world. She effortlessly dodged Ainz’s counterattack and approached Ainz from the front.

  • His Rhino Dermal Armor protect him from slashing attacks in CQC (Close Quarters Combat)
razors edge is an extremely sharp blade, noted by Gazef as being able to cut through anything. while this would obviously be an NLF to just assume it can cut through any armor, Gazef has knowledge of adamantite armor.

adamantite armor was strong enough to deflect piercing attacks from clementine - someone in the realm of heroes:

Its effect seemed to be to defend against his greatsword hit and neutralize the weapon's impact. She must have used martial arts to deflect Ainz’s attack.

“…So haaaard~ what’s that armor of your made of? Adamantite… hm?”

Although he did not feel pain, he felt that something sharp had pierced his left shoulder, near the place where he had heard the sound of scraping.

Ainz glanced to the shoulder from where the impact had come, but there was only a slight dent in the armor.
essentially meaning that 128 megajoule piercing attacks < adamantite armor < razors edge

Gazef literally has endless stamina, so Adam will not be winning a battle of endurance here

The TESLA launches electric darts from Jensen's hand to knock out people and deactivate electronics

Locks onto and homes in on up to four targets (Homing Target)
this definitely gets hard countered by sixfold slash of light

sixfold slash of light releases six blades of light, each of which can cut through angels comparable to him

because the blades are made of light, the current from the electricity wont be able conduct and reach Gazef

what makes it worse is that Gazef constantly spams this attack - with it being noted that he used it many times consecutively

Gazef bit his lip, and continued slashing.

His record for the most consecutive uses of his ultimate attack, 「Sixfold Slash of Light」, was rapidly increasing.

A warrior like Gazef could use six different kinds of martial arts at once, and combined with his hidden ultimate attack, that made seven martial arts at once.
keep in mind that this is also a Gazef who didn't have either the gauntlets of endurance or the amulet of immortality at the time, and was constantly using sixfold slash of light despite the stress it put on his mind and body.

An in-built version of the P.E.P.S. weapon, shooting a powerful concussive ball of energy. Can also release a quick, weaker blast without charging, and be focused into a more powerful beam to knock out individualsMD
Gazef is pretty unlikely to be knocked out by pure force, given that he tanked a blow that broke his entire arm and charged back in to continue the fight:

Somehow, he had kept his grip on his sword, but pain spread through his entire body. Be it his muscles or his tendons, every part of him hurt from the stress it had to bear.


Gazef panted heavily, and stared at the giant body that passed him.


Not far from Gazef, one of the Dark Young had finally stood still as opposed to running madly.


One of its tentacles became a blur.


Fear shot through his body. Gazef hurriedly raised his sword.


In that instant, an extraordinary impact struck him, and his body floated into the sky.


Gazef could not see anything, but he guessed that he must have been slapped away by the tentacle. His body flew through the sky.


After hanging in the air for a surprisingly long time, Gazef’s body finally struck the earth. He rolled several times. This rolling was not the tumbling of a flung corpse, but the deliberate action of a human that was trying to bleed off the energy of his rotation.


Gazef slowly stood up, spurring his ungainly body into motion. He stared at the distant Dark Young.


It had been just one hit.


The arm that took the strike had broken. It was probably sheer good luck that his sword had not snapped as well.


All emotion vanished from Gazef’s face


Why had he been spared? Why had it not pursued him?


It was probably because it had no need to finish him off. Gazef felt that was the most appropriate answer.


This was not a defeat. He had not even come anywhere close to the arena.


Fresh blood flowed from his bitten lip.


Following that, Gazef suppressed the intense pain which filled him and ran forth with all his might.

but even without that, Gazef has pretty good projectile feats - being confident in dodging a couple of completely invisible attacks:

As he looked in the direction of the pain, he saw a group of magic casters casting a spell of some sort.

“Well, if you’re priests, you should act like it. How about a little healing over here!?”

As though to answer Gazef’s jibe, an invisible force smashed into Gazef’s body.

Though the enemy used invisible attacks, Gazef was confident that he could avoid them by reading traces in the air and the looks on his opponent’s faces. That might even have worked, if there were only a few of them. However, against thirty of those attacks, there was nothing he could do
not to mention letting Gazef into his range is a pretty bad idea, considering Gazef's close-combat expertise

razor edge has the ability to outright bypass the invunrability of Ainz, so damage negation is unlikely to be of any use here

  • Can become fully invisible

Gazef is much more skilled than climb, who could put up a decent fight (although he was eventually defeated) against succulent - a man who can not only turn invisible but also cast illusions to deceive his opponents. he is also considered an equal to Brian, who defeated both succulents invisibility and illusion techniques in one strike:

Succulent deflected the strike again. Climb nodded in satisfaction and pulled away.


“It’s an illusion, not a martial art!”


He had felt something strange when his sword had been deflected. It was as though his strike had bounced away before it had even made contact with the sword he could see.


“Your right arm’s an illusion! The real arm and sword are invisible!”


In other words, what he thought he had blocked was an illusion. It was the invisible sword which had struck him.
Brain stayed where he was, staring silently at Succulent. He had created five illusory duplicates out of nowhere, and he gleamed with what seemed to be a magical radiance. In addition, he seemed to have donned some kind of shadowy cloak. Brain had no idea what kind of magic Succulent had used.


“Thank you for giving me time to prepare. Magic casters are more powerful than warriors when they can prepare themselves. You lose, Unglaus!”


“Hm, no need thank me. After talking to him… well, I’m pretty sure I can’t lose.”


“...Big words for a hired blade! So you’re staying there to protect that punk. How sweet of you.”


Brain heard the sound of Climb shifting from down where he lay at Brain’s feet.


Climb must have been feeling guilty about giving the enemy time to prepare himself. Therefore, Brain made a declaration, loud enough that Climb could hear.


“—One strike.”


“What?”


“I said, I’m going to take you down in one strike, Succulent.”


“Try it if you can!”


Succulent charged him, wreathed by his afterimages.
As his opponent entered his attack range, Brain swivelled, completely ignoring how he was exposing his defenseless back to the oncoming Succulent. And then — with Climb in between — Brain drew with incredible speed and cut at the empty air.


♦ ♦ ♦


There was a mighty crash as the walls shook.


The still-prone Climb and Cocco Doll turned to look at the source of the sound.


Succulent lay there. He had rolled to the ground and was motionless. His sword had fallen to the ground.


Brain’s mighty draw-cut had sent Succulent flying, smashing him into the wall with tremendous force, after which he had collapsed to the ground. If Brain had not hit him with the back of his sword, Succulent would have been lying in two pieces instead of one.


all in all I believe that Gazef counters pretty much all of Adams abilities, but ill wait for DD's response before voting
 
while these are cool, they will be pretty much useless considering this fight takes place in the desert. Gazef is also a fairly straightforward fighter who relies on mainly face to face combat, se detection skills wouldn't come in handy here.
There is an abandoned town and while it does offer an open place to hide, Point is hiding won't work due to GPS and homing target scanning, But that shoudn't be an issue since Gazef is a straight forward fighter, Good for Jensen he'll use the place.
like I mentioned earlier, stealth is unlikely to be an important factor here
Sealth is one of the best and most utilized skill of Adam Jensen as top military bases on Earth was not able to track him Gazef may be a straightforward fighter who thinks with the first rather then the brain but Jensen would absolutely utilize the town nearby as it gives him not only the option to hide but keep on tracking him via homing target (Gazef wouldn't know where Jensen is but Jensen would always know where he is)
  • Which would allow jensen to to A- Use weapons B- Strike when necessary C-Utilize his amps.
  • Following are all the weapons Jensen has for long and short range
Firearms:
Explosives:
so now onto the important stuff:

while this is a pretty good skill feat, I would argue that Gazef has an even better one

even while completely exhausted due to overuse of martial arts, Gazef was able to avoid and deflect attacks from angels completely surrounding him:


its worth noting that each of these angels were considered to be more experienced than trained soldiers:
while this is a pretty good skill feat, I would argue that Gazef has an even better one

Sven while completely exhausted due to overuse of martial arts, Gazef was able to avoid and deflect attacks from angels completely surrounding him:
Jensen defeated a fully cyborg assassian and Military cyborg leader in a on vs one fight (Who uses Teleportation spam) Gazef speed amp would get countered.
while it seems Adam has some nice speed boosts, Gazef has some good ones of his own

using the martial art instant counter, he was able to completely cut through an angel mid-swing:
Then, as though ordered to drown out the cheers, a huge wave of angels swept in, and one of them lunged at Gazef with its flaming sword.

“「Instant Counter」!”

Gazef used his martial art just as the angel swung, and his body blurred away like mist.

Halfway through its attack, the angel took a hit from Gazef. That hit reduced it to glittering dust.

This is not a legitimate Speed boost seems far weaker then the scans I have provided
(Jensen speed amps can be upgraded with increase both his reflexes and dashing speed)

Gazef is pretty unlikely to be knocked out by pure force, given that he tanked a blow that broke his entire arm and charged back in to continue the fight:
Jensen has been hit so hard by Machines and cyborgs with alot of force so much so he broke through the walls and he was NOT knocked including a bomb attack.

razors edge is an extremely sharp blade, noted by Gazef as being able to cut through anything. while this would obviously be an NLF to just assume it can cut through any armor, Gazef has knowledge of adamantite armor.

adamantite armor was strong enough to deflect piercing attacks from clementine - someone in the realm of heroes:


essentially meaning that 128 megajoule piercing attacks < adamantite armor < razors edge
Jensen has
1-Dermal armor that gives blunt force resistance (Should help greatly in combat)
2-Blasstic and Fire attack resistance
3-TITAN is a skin augmentation which appears and disappears from Jensen at his wishes, negating damage until it deactivates, either from its energy running out or Jensen triggering it

Jensen can use speed amp + Sealth +Smoke bomb and proceed to use his Cyborg arm for take down

Gazef literally has endless stamina, so Adam will not be winning a battle of endurance here

Stamina: High. Was able to battle an entire army of fourth-tier Angels for an extended period of time, killing many of them before eventually succumbing to exhaustion
This is NOT Endless.
Jensen has known was having a very fast Takedown in CQC

all in all I believe that Gazef counters pretty much all of Adams abilities, but ill wait for DD's response before voting

Gazef is much more skilled than climb, who could put up a decent fight (although he was eventually defeated) against succulent - a man who can not only turn invisible but also cast illusions to deceive his opponents. he is also considered an equal to Brian, who defeated both succulents invisibility and illusion techniques in one strike:
Jensen would know his intentions and would be WELL prepared thanks to his Augments

Conclusion:

  • He has no answer to Invisibility (Can become fully invisible)
  • He has no answer to Typhoon Explosive (Massive AOE damage as soon as Gazef charges at him, Jensens Cyborg threat detection would automatically active Typhoon attack)
  • 1.52x AP Advantage, Lifting Strength Advantage and far superior weapons with Stealth utilization would lead Jensen in the end after a tough fought battle to the victory.

The most powerful attack he has is Typhoon Explosive which launches 7 Explosives at once
 
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idk if I'm just not seeing it or something, but where is the town in the image you posted? if you could point it out to be that would be appreciated


anyway:
Jensen defeated a fully cyborg assassian and Military cyborg leader in a on vs one fight (Who uses Teleportation spam) Gazef speed amp would get countered.
being able to use teleportation wont counter a speed amp

not to mention, 90% of the boss fight the cyborg only teleported around the arena and still had to charge at Adam to fight him

This is not a legitimate Speed boost seems far weaker then the scans I have provided
(Jensen speed amps can be upgraded with increase both his reflexes and dashing speed)
no?

like, Adams speed boost requires a charge up and is extremely short distance. he also cant actually attack while using the speed amp, and he has to pinpoint the location he wants to dash to before using it.

on the other hand, Gazef's speed amp allows him to blitz an opponent equal in speed to him and slash them apart mid-swing. it also can be instantly used with no charge up.

I legitimately don't see what advantage Adams speed boost would bring to the fight other than allowing him to become decapitated earlier

Stamina: High. Was able to battle an entire army of fourth-tier Angels for an extended period of time, killing many of them before eventually succumbing to exhaustion
This is NOT Endless

did you actually read the second key?

Stamina: High. Was able to battle an entire army of fourth-tier Angels for an extended period of time, killing many of them before eventually succumbing to exhaustion. | Endless

again, did you even read my answer?

Gazef is much more skilled than climb, who could put up a decent fight (although he was eventually defeated) against succulent - a man who can not only turn invisible but also cast illusions to deceive his opponents. he is also considered an equal to Brian, who defeated both succulents invisibility and illusion techniques in one strike:

Succulent deflected the strike again. Climb nodded in satisfaction and pulled away.


“It’s an illusion, not a martial art!”


He had felt something strange when his sword had been deflected. It was as though his strike had bounced away before it had even made contact with the sword he could see.


“Your right arm’s an illusion! The real arm and sword are invisible!”


In other words, what he thought he had blocked was an illusion. It was the invisible sword which had struck him.
Brain stayed where he was, staring silently at Succulent. He had created five illusory duplicates out of nowhere, and he gleamed with what seemed to be a magical radiance. In addition, he seemed to have donned some kind of shadowy cloak. Brain had no idea what kind of magic Succulent had used.


“Thank you for giving me time to prepare. Magic casters are more powerful than warriors when they can prepare themselves. You lose, Unglaus!”


“Hm, no need thank me. After talking to him… well, I’m pretty sure I can’t lose.”


“...Big words for a hired blade! So you’re staying there to protect that punk. How sweet of you.”


Brain heard the sound of Climb shifting from down where he lay at Brain’s feet.


Climb must have been feeling guilty about giving the enemy time to prepare himself. Therefore, Brain made a declaration, loud enough that Climb could hear.


“—One strike.”


“What?”


“I said, I’m going to take you down in one strike, Succulent.”


“Try it if you can!”


Succulent charged him, wreathed by his afterimages.
As his opponent entered his attack range, Brain swivelled, completely ignoring how he was exposing his defenseless back to the oncoming Succulent. And then — with Climb in between — Brain drew with incredible speed and cut at the empty air.


♦ ♦ ♦


There was a mighty crash as the walls shook.


The still-prone Climb and Cocco Doll turned to look at the source of the sound.


Succulent lay there. He had rolled to the ground and was motionless. His sword had fallen to the ground.


Brain’s mighty draw-cut had sent Succulent flying, smashing him into the wall with tremendous force, after which he had collapsed to the ground. If Brain had not hit him with the back of his sword, Succulent would have been lying in two pieces instead of one.

  • He has no answer to Typhoon Explosive (Massive AOE damage as soon as Gazef charges at him, Jensens Cyborg threat detection would automatically active Typhoon attack)

the problem with typhoon is that it isn't a 0.0007 ton attack, its 7 0.0001 ton attacks.

given that each individual missile is 3 times weaker than Gazef, I can hardly see it doing any damage to him, especially with the amulet of immortality
 
idk if I'm just not seeing it or something, but where is the town in the image you posted? if you could point it out to be that would be appreciated
Oh I knew you'd brought this up, Happened before but......
It's clearly stated in the rules of the tournament thread that Desert with an abandoned town so it should not be a matter of visual representation (As my initial theme for the location is a old wild west Tv Troupe)
being able to use teleportation wont counter a speed amp
Does him him far greater expierence in combat, Yelena was spawning out of no where and was NOT enough to defeat Jensen, Jensen has his own speed amp which you is not greater then Jensen's by a significant margin.
not to mention, 90% of the boss fight the cyborg only teleported around the arena and still had to charge at Adam to fight him

no?
Matter of prespective of the player (And what difficulty he chooses)
0:52 (She was charging and is one of the fastest travelling boss) Jensen has stamina boost augment as well which allows him to temporarily boost his stamina and out run enemies.
like, Adams speed boost requires a charge up and is extremely short distance. he also cant actually attack while using the speed amp, and he has to pinpoint the location he wants to dash to before using it.
He can use multi weapons in CQC close quarters combat (Holding 2 guns, or using 1 blade or the other weapon in hand his highly agile, i don't expect Gazef to do 360 flips in mid air while fighting but Jenson would)
on the other hand, Gazef's speed amp allows him to blitz an opponent equal in speed to him and slash them apart mid-swing. it also can be instantly used with no charge up.
Again Jensen can do the same. (With either his blade or any takedown technique)

I legitimately don't see what advantage Adams speed boost would bring to the fight other than allowing him to become decapitated earlier
Ugh doging gazef's sword attack, Allowing him to use his jump boost to climb the hedges
did you actually read the second key?


the problem with typhoon is that it isn't a 0.0007 ton attack, its 7 0.0001 ton attacks.
given that each individual missile is 3 times weaker than Gazef, I can hardly see it doing any damage to him, especially with the amulet of immortality
This is not going to finish Gazef off, NOR is this is idea when using it.
The idea is using the Tyhpoon + smoke screen would stun Gazef allowing another way for take down or for jensen to use the Pasma rifle for a quick shot (With Homing target locked on) and use Armor piercing special rifle or Sleep dart rifle as a follow up.
 
Does him him far greater expierence in combat, Yelena was spawning out of no where and was NOT enough to defeat Jensen, Jensen has his own speed amp which you is not greater then Jensen's by a significant margin.
yeah, but that doesn't make up for the skill gap. being able to pinpoint people accurately after teleporting wont matter because Gazef doesn't teleport.

more importantly, it has nothing to do with close range combat given that she was shooting at him with a gun the majority of the time

Matter of prespective of the player (And what difficulty he chooses)
0:52 (She was charging and is one of the fastest travelling boss) Jensen has stamina boost augment as well which allows him to temporarily boost his stamina and out run enemies.
ok, but the point was that she never used her teleport spam to get into CQC with Jensen. any experience against projectile users that Jensen has is going to be pretty useless here considering that Gazef doesn't have projectiles

Again Jensen can do the same. (With either his blade or any takedown technique)
mind showing scans of this?

Ugh doging gazef's sword attack, Allowing him to use his jump boost to climb the hedges
I legitimately don't see how he would be able to dodge Gazef's sword swings given the charge up time on the dash

like, Gazef would swing his sword and it would hit Adam before he even had the chance to dash

This is not going to finish Gazef off, NOR is this is idea when using it.
The idea is using the Tyhpoon + smoke screen would stun Gazef allowing another way for take down or for jensen to use the Pasma rifle for a quick shot (With Homing target locked on) and use Armor piercing special rifle or Sleep dart rifle as a follow up.
yeah, but how would an attack that's 3 times weaker than Gazef stun him? I posted Gazef getting back up immediately even after getting hit by a blow that broke his arm, so the typhoon missiles would even make him flinch
 
yeah, but that doesn't make up for the skill gap. being able to pinpoint people accurately after teleporting wont matter because Gazef doesn't teleport.
Information analysis on the weapon and fighting style does tho, It gives him the edge and always Jensen to adjust and fight accordingly.
more importantly, it has nothing to do with close range combat given that she was shooting at him with a gun the majority of the time
So what no matter who charges at Jensen he can deal with it via dashing or using his reflexes which can dodge bullets
ok, but the point was that she never used her teleport spam to get into CQC with Jensen. any experience against projectile users that Jensen has is going to be pretty useless here considering that Gazef doesn't have projectiles


mind showing scans of this?


I legitimately don't see how he would be able to dodge Gazef's sword swings given the charge up time on the dash

like, Gazef would swing his sword and it would hit Adam before he even had the chance to dash


yeah, but how would an attack that's 3 times weaker than Gazef stun him? I posted Gazef getting back up
I posted Jensen getting backed up getting hit with a massive shockwave an going through walls too ...
immediately even after getting hit by a blow that broke his arm, so the typhoon missiles would even make him flinch
All Takedowns:


Skill gap is not huge, Gazef is the best solider in the kingdom, Jensen essentially took out the entire Top military bases on Earth and defeated it's military bosses (who are equipped with future tech and heavy multiple layers of armors), Speed Dash would allow him to dodge, His reflex boost can sense and avoid slashes, he has greater mobility. Jensen Cyborgization built in blades and weapons would come off as a surprise to compared to a primitive sword user.
More importantly Jensen via higher LS can disarm the sword of Gazef too.
 
Gazef is spamming Sixfold Slash here which means Jensen has to deal with six attacks coming at him from every direction each time Gazef swings. Even if their skill was comparable, he can’t hang in melee where Gazef has multiple speed amps, and no recovery time between attacks. Jensen needs to stay at range but considering invisible range attacks from dozens of guys aren’t enough to put down base Gazef, he’ll eventually run out of ammo to toss around.

Voting the goated Warrior Captain FRA.
 
Information analysis on the weapon and fighting style does tho, It gives him the edge and always Jensen to adjust and fight accordingly.

Skill gap is not huge, Gazef is the best solider in the kingdom, Jensen essentially took out the entire Top military bases on Earth and defeated it's military bosses (who are equipped with future tech and heavy multiple layers of armors), Speed Dash would allow him to dodge, His reflex boost can sense and avoid slashes, he has greater mobility. Jensen Cyborgization built in blades and weapons would come off as a surprise to compared to a primitive sword user.
More importantly Jensen via higher LS can disarm the sword of Gazef too

So what no matter who charges at Jensen he can deal with it via dashing or using his reflexes which can dodge bullets

tbh I think that there has being some sort of misunderstanding on what I'm trying to explain as a skill gap

“The hunt has entered its final stages. Do not let the beast rest — order your angels to attack consecutively.”

Even though Gazef desperately wanted a moment to recover, the angels surrounding him obeyed their masters and mercilessly attacked him, one after the other.

He somehow evaded the attack from behind, and parried a thrust from the side. He used the strong angles of his armor to deflect an angel’s charge from above.

Gazef wanted to counterattack his foes, but he was greatly outnumbered.

As his strength diminished, he could only take out one opponent at a time, since he lacked the stamina to use martial arts. As his subordinates fell one by one, the enemy’s attacks were concentrated on him.

Gazef took down another angel as he muttered to himself. It would seem there would not be any more cheering no matter how many angels Gazef slew, since his men were worrying about the enemy coming at them.

They were superior in numbers, equipment, training, and individual ability.

The sole weapon of Gazef’s beleaguered men — their hope for victory — was gone.


The world before him shook mightily.

Not good!

Gazef used all his strength to try and maintain his balance. However, something seemed wrong with his body, and the strength that should have held him up was nowhere to be found.

The itch of touching the grass spread through his body, and Gazef realised that he had fallen.

He struggled to rise again, but his body betrayed him
Gazef, while completely exhausted, was able to avoid each and every blow from beings more skilled than soldiers who have trained exclusively in close combat that were surrounding him while also being fast enough to immediately avoid all of his attacks

so far none of the CQC skill feats you have provided have even put Adam above one of those angels, and Gazef was able to avoid multiple of them surrounding him without any martial arts. that's why I'm being so insistent on the skill gap here

I posted Jensen getting backed up getting hit with a massive shockwave an going through walls too ...

yeah, I recognize that, but the point of that wasn't to prove that Gazef can tank large shockwaves, it was to prove that the typhoon system wouldn't work on him.

you said that one of Adams win cons would be the typhoon system stunning Gazef, which would allow Adam to pivot into a smokebomb + sleepdart combo.

I mentioned the feat to explain why that combo wouldn't work, because the typhoon system wouldn't stun Gazef


also, idk if the takedown compilation was meant to be the scans I requested that showcase Adams dash (ignore this if it wasn't) but throughout the entire video there wasn't a single instance of Adam blitzing his opponents. hell, some of the people were throwing punches at Adam as he was preforming the takedown.
 
I think the fight ultimately comes down to an AP and AOE slugfest.

Both have decent resistances that nullify any sort of 1 shot hax here.

Still, I vote for Adam Jensen for being able to slow him down with his larger arsenal like electricity based attacks and a bombardment of attacks like grenades, rockets and his own body like the typhoon and nanoblades which can also be charged to explode.
 
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