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Tier 2 characters that beat Xeno Goku or vice versa

**** 40k, Fantasy is all that's necessary

This thread is kinda pointless
 
This entire thread "bruh" either way it's still the same old story for many iconic characters they get beaten by smurfs heck Shulk whose considered to be at the low-end of 2-A is just too much for Xeno Goku thanks to his broken AF precog.

Xeno Goku does beat the Bravely series thanks to his upgrade to 2-A tho (depending on the agreed AP for 2-A DBH he either AP stomps or it's actually a hard fought win against the BD/BS god tiers).
 
DBH doesn't even have the highest AP for 2-A. Hell, it doesn't even enter Top 3. So that advantage they had in 2-B is zilch here.
 
Lets see...

Marvel, DC, DnD, Chrono, SMT, Archie, Blazblue, Noein, Dark Tower (specifically Mir)...

idk if there's others above that.
 
Destiny and Homestuck, yeah. But he's stronger than Xenoblade and Fate at least in terms of raw AP. He gets haxxed to hell and back by them otherwise.
 
How do those verses have higher AP than DBH though?
 
Most of them are infinitely above baseline. Chrono and Archie have power gaps that eclipse DB's. The former scales to hundreds millions of years of power absorption above their dandruff. The latter scales to seven Emeralds being 2-A, and the current seven fused with a literal ocean's amount of them minimum (granted it's stated that the power didn't change and they're just as strong before fusion as after, but they're currently rated as how I described). Mir is just super big, in that the infinite multiverse is the size of his eyeball.
 
Ouch. From the AP overlords of 2-B to not even Top 10 in 2-A.
 
Pardon me if I'm mistaken; the Marvel 616-verse is a "meta-universe" (an infinite universe with universes within it) and essentially if you include all the branch worlds, dimensions, realms etc, it's 2-A x countless other 2-As possibly an infinite amount of 2-As
 
From what I heard, a single Marvel universe contains infinite timelines that themselves branch out every moment.
 
Pretty sure it's like a single marvel universe contains infinite timelines, in which there's an infinite amount of marvel universes.
 
We should probably wait for Zenkai and Ottavio's cosmology blog before making any conclusive arguments.
 
Bruh... I thought that only applied to the 616-verse?, whelp Marvel has even more AP (for it's 2-As) than I thought lol!
 
How infinite^infinite? I can see infinitely above baseline but little more than that.
 
Super Saiyan God Julian said:
We should probably wait for Zenkai and Ottavio's cosmology blog before making any conclusive arguments.
Click to expand...
Jokes aside I agree however that didn't stop the Vs 2-A DBH spam tho.
 
Planck69 said:
How infinite^infinite? I can see infinitely above baseline but little more than that.
Click to expand...
From what is basically being done now, and from what I have been shown, Dragon Ball is 2-A under the Many Worlds Interpretatio which basically states that if a multiverse is infinite, then it also has to be infinitely expanding. It has to be Infinite^Infinite or its not infinite at all following the MWI guidelines
 
Jokes aside I agree however that didn't stop the Vs 2-A DBH spam tho.

I been saying this lol
 
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