Thread Closure Rule

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Ryukama's not talking about any name or current staff member in particular; just a general "what if" example of a staff who literally does stuff like that. That being said, he's making a good point, but still agree with Saikou, Sera and Ant about it preferably being on Advice to the staff page.

 

[Ryukama]

Ryukama's not talking about any name or current staff member in particular; just a general "what if" example of a staff who literally does stuff like that.

I'm so glad someone understands this. I'm not trying to get anyone banned or demoted. Someone just told me out of nowhere to comment on this thread, I read the OP and I thought "Yeah that is a bad thing to do it shouldn't be allowed".

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

For obvious reasons I do agree with this. On one side, like Ryu said, it's a bit sad that this even needs to be brought up.

On the other, I am glad to see this. We still have people with a bad image of what we allow staff to do or not do, and aside from setting a established precedent this should make it more clear there's no preferentialism here.

Yay for positivity.

 

[Kaltias]

People shouldn't report staff to the RVT to begin with because that's what HR is for (meaning that if someone thinks that a staff member has done something bad they should PM us) but that's beyond the point.

I think that we are all roughly on the same page regarding the fact that it's not something that should be allowed, but it's not anything super important.

Again, just like we don't ban anyone for losing their cool once, we wouldn't demote or ban anyone for closing a thread without reasons unless it's something that keeps happening again and again

 

[Antvasima]

@Ryukama

The RV threads have been in some chaos recently with feuding between community members, and me trying to do damage control as best as I can.

 

[Antvasima]

Something like this for the Advice to the staff of the VS Battles wiki page perhaps?

"It is very important that you do not close or remove threads without adequate reasoning, even if it is simply due to that the topic has been discussed to exhaustion previously and/or you do not have the time available to properly deal with it at the moment due to real life concerns, and do not wish for it to get out of control until you get some free time to do so. It is also usually best to ask for confirmations before closing discussions. It reflects badly on the staff as a whole if you do not follow these instructions."

I think that it underscores that it is important to follow this instruction, without needing to make it an automatically punishable offense.

 

[Ryukama]

Just like I don't want it to be misconstrued that I'm trying to get anyone banned or demoted just because I think something that no one's even doing should hypothetically be against the rules.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I like that paragraph proposal above ^^

 

[Antvasima]

@Ryukama

Yes, of course. I obviously do not think that. I am just concerned that it will be used that way by people with a grudge.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

People shouldn't report staff to the RVT to begin with because that's what HR is for (meaning that if someone thinks that a staff member has done something bad they should PM us) but that's beyond the point.

Perhaps we should have a reminder on the RVT threads (And maybe the various rules pages) that reporting staff/submitting complaints about staff should be done thorugh HR, with links to active HR representatives' message walls so that a fanfiction PM can be established?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

As for the addition to the Staff Advice page, it looks fine to me.

 

[Andytrenom]

I think it should be fine.

But of course this shouldn't be a rule that's immediately punishable and only repeated violations without any sign of improvement should call for serious action.

 

[Agnaa]

Perhaps we should have a reminder on the RVT threads (And maybe the various rules pages) that reporting staff/submitting complaints about staff should be done thorugh HR, with links to active HR representatives' message walls so that a fanfiction PM can be established?

This x100

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that we could mention it at the top of the RV threads.

 

[Elizhaa]

True and I would agree

 

[Elizhaa]

Assuming the change is added to the Advice to the staff of the VS Battles wiki page then I believe this CRT would be open on principal.

 

[Andytrenom]

@Elizhaa No because the thread already has a continuation.

 

[Andytrenom]

The thread isn't closed anymore and wasn't closed when I had just woke up either.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Elizhaa No because the thread already has a continuation.

I see; Andytrenom, thanksƒæì! I was busy IRL while the new thread was made.

 

[Kaltias]

@Dargoo

That could help, yes.

 

[Antvasima]

So would the rest of you be fine with the following solutions?

• Mention that members should report staff problems to the HR group at the top of the RV threads.
• Add the suggested text to the staff advise page.

 

[Andytrenom]

I would be.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you.

 

[Elizhaa]

So would the rest of you be fine with the following solutions?

• Mention that members should report staff problems to the HR group at the top of the RV threads.
• Add the suggested text to the staff advise page.

I would be fine as with it

 

[AKM sama]

So would the rest of you be fine with the following solutions?

• Mention that members should report staff problems to the HR group at the top of the RV threads.
• Add the suggested text to the staff advise page.

1. Strongly agree. That's why the HR group exists. Constantly reporting staff members (either legitimately or due to personal vendetta) leads to several dozens of heated comments, causes uproar and drama, wastes time of everyone on this wiki and doesn't lead anywhere. I trust our HR group members and they have already proven in the past that they are more than capable of handling such matters and reach a fair and just conclusion.

2. As someone who has been a victim of this a few times, I agree with this as well.

 

[Antvasima]

So can I make the additions now?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'd say yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so then.

 

[Antvasima]

I have done so. Should we close this thread?

 

[Hykuu]

yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.