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Thor vs. Scarlet Witch (MCU)

MrKerf said:
Yeah, Wanda was able to use shield and telekinesis at the same time. I believe that she can take Thor. Vote for her.
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SW NEVER uses her telekenisis for ripping people apart EXCEPT when she is bloodlusted. Every other time she just uses them as projectiles or using it to throw people away
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
SW NEVER uses her telekenisis for ripping people apart EXCEPT when she is bloodlusted. Every other time she just uses them as projectiles or using it to throw people away
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She does uses her Telekinesis fairly a lot when she means to incapacite her foe. Maybe not rip Thor apart, but knock him unconscious with a crushing grip.
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
She did that because she didn't want to harm vision
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Yeah, just imagine if she was trying to actually harm him.

Thing with Wanda it's that she doesn't has actually that much of combat scenes. Being Thanos' one the only close to an actual fight, as nearly none of her fights involved taking down her foe nor had that much of a fight aspect.

Going by AoU, her role against avengers it's mostly toying with their minds one by one instead of taking them ahead, and if we go by her fight against ultron's minions, she equally uses both blasts and her Telekinesis to either retrain or tear them apart.

In CW, the first offensive use that she does with her Telekinesis is retrain a fodder to toss him against Falcon and knock him cold. In the fight in the Airport she's playing as support to stop Team Cap from getting hits and occasionally dropping stuff to keep Team Iron Man at Line.

In IW she was focused on protecting Vision from the Black Order instead of defeating them, albeit by near the end of the movie what she does is outright toss Proxima to an engine to kill her.

Point, however, is that it's fairly common for Wanda to use her Telekinesis, even more than actually shooting blasts, with the distinction that in this occasion she has no boundaries, as SBA means that Wanda is both willing to harm him and focused on Thor outside of every other aspect.
 
But like I said before, the only thing which would actually harm thor is her ripping him apart. Which she never uses. Even if she throws him, thor with stormbreaker and lightning would be too much for her to handle and his range is far higher
 
Black Order never got hit by a single TK blast though

Thor would get knocked down since those things hurt Thanos
 
Um no, she never threw thanos, she used telekenisis blasts, then countered thanos trying to stab her, broke his swordl, and tried to rip him apart

Yeah she did, she did that here at 0:16
 
They were knocking over Thanos who no diffs Thor so kinda yeah. One was responsible for snapping his sword so that is definitiely killing Thor.
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
But like I said before, the only thing which would actually harm thor is her ripping him apart. Which she never uses.
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First no.

Second. Wanda never telekinetically throws people because of reasons or because it's part of her standard battle mindset. Wanda throws people around with her Telekinesis because there's a further reason to do it so. Either she doesn't wants to defeat them but keep them at Line (VS Team Iron Man) or she knows that there's no need to do it herself (Fodder at the start of CW and when she killed Proxima Midnight). Assuming that she would only toss him around it's as fair as saying that she would crush him with her Telekinesis like how she restrained Vision to escape, with the distinction that Wanda isn't holding back at all this time.

'Sides, Wanda has already ripped apart Ultron Minions with her TK.

PD: Black Order taking Wanda's blast is BS. In the same movie Wanda could single-handily held Thanos back while destroying the Mind Stone. The Black Order doesn't comes even remotely close to that.
 
also something to keep in mind, it took thanos a while to almost drive stormbreaker in EG thors chest IW thor>>eg thor, wanda isnt just goint to rip his limbs off with ease he was able to hold open the rings of nvdeliar, not to mention at the end of avengers 1 he was bringing down lighting alot as well as during the bridge scene in ragnork(without using his hands), if she attempts to lift thor up like she did thanos thor is more then capable of bringing down lighting down to strike her
 
This is just a repeat of Wanda's fightvwith Thanos. Wanda FRA.

Also, Bifrost BFR is not even close to being in character.
 
The Wright Way said:
This is just a repeat of Wanda's fightvwith Thanos. Wanda FRA.
Also, Bifrost BFR is not even close to being in character.
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Except she only uses ripping apart when bloodlusted. Since this is normal wanda, thor blasts her or kills her with stormbreaker
 
Ultron says otherwise. Everyone that she just blasted or ragdollec she either didn't want to kill or possed no threat to her. When she's willing to kill, as SBA dictates she would be, she rips apart.
 
She was bloodlusted with ultron and thanos,

In fact, before tried to rip thanos, she used telekenisis blasts, so she starts with those, she doesn't go for the kill with ripping
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
She can't be blocking forever. If she tries to start going offensive thor blasts her.

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And the same can't be said for the far less maneuverable and agile Thor?
 
Stormbreaker went through a beam comprised if all 6 beams be powers come from a stone Stormbreaker is easily breaking through and one shotting, even if he's lifted up in the air (which I doubt she starts with) he will bring lighting down to 1 shot or at the very least distract her into letting go, not to mention his tolerance for pain is VERY high Voting thor
 
Schnee One said:
Her sidestepping an obvious Axe and picking him up before crushing him
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Sidestepping wont help much since it can u turn and attack her from behind
 
The Wright Way said:
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
I remember she was due to the fact ultron betrayed her or something
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Didn't she kinda betray Ultron first?
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No, she thought ultron would help her get justice against iron man, but then she learned ultron was using her so he can destroy humans
 
But if she sidestepped it she would think shes in the clear she wouldn't know its actually coming back to get her, and her even attempting that is enough of a opening for thor to land One attack
 
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