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Are the haxex that are supposed to be added soon allowed?
Like paralysis Inducement and yeeting mfs back in time
None of which would really matter since Hercules is too ******* good at dodging things.

Also, what stops Hercules from stunning Thor with his Cestuses? The strength difference here he has while even being able to knock Kratos out of Rage of Sparta, is just frankly put, insane.
 
None of which would really matter since Hercules is too ******* good at dodging things.

Also, what stops Hercules from stunning Thor with his Cestuses? The strength difference here he has while even being able to knock Kratos out of Rage of Sparta, is just frankly put, insane.
You realize that Thor actually succeeded in killing Kratos, right? Literally killed him then brought him back to life. Kratos himself admitted that Thor's attacks hit as heavy as he'd ever felt and that he was fortunate their battle didn't reach a conclusion.

The reason I chose Hercules is that Hercules doesn't have as many hax compared to the other Greek gods, and I'm also unfamiliar with the previous GoW games that took place in the Greek mythology. Thor can also amp himself using Mjolnir, which he did against Kratos in their second battle.
 
You realize that Thor actually succeeded in killing Kratos, right? Literally killed him then brought him back to life. Kratos himself admitted that Thor's attacks hit as heavy as he'd ever felt and that he was fortunate their battle didn't reach a conclusion.
You do also realize that the first fight is a complete non-factor because both parties were holding back massively? The whole "heavy as any as I have felt" thing was made from the PoV of a massively-holding-back Kratos with no Blades of Chaos on him, which at best would put Thor at like, Poseidon level at best, not only that, it's also about the blows Kratos has actually taken and lived to tell the tale, which again, includes the Brother Kings Poseidon and Hades before Kratos amps himself with Hades' soul.

Not only that, this same exact Kratos matches Thor blow-for-blow and then defeats him in their second rematch, in which Thor is visibly pissed, bloodlusted and no longer holding back as he straight up states he's allowed to kill him this time, and Kratos is still holding back, but he's a lot more serious than last time. The same hammer blow that temporarily killed Kratos? Kratos takes it like a ******* champ in the rematch and shrugs it off. We literally discussed this in the GOW Ragnarok discussion thread at detail, heck, this is gonna be put into the Notes section of Thor as per the upcoming CRT.

Thor's blows being stated to be as strong as any as Kratos has felt, is explicitly referring to only the blows that Kratos himself has taken and survived, and this is visibly referring to Kratos's massively-held-back state without even having the Blades of Chaos on him, whose best feats prior to the Hades Soul Amp are whacking Poseidon and beating Hades.

The reason I chose Hercules is that Hercules doesn't have as many hax compared to the other Greek gods, and I'm also unfamiliar with the previous GoW games that took place in the Greek mythology.
Then you should prolly start with actually reading the profiles at hand because Hercules, while lacking hax, has significant resistance to most of Kratos's equipment and has more than enough might to match him every step of the way. Anything strong enough to harm Hercules will in tandem, harm Kratos as well.

Thor can also amp himself using Mjolnir, which he did against Kratos in their second battle.
And then lost. Not to mention Kratos even had the Blades of Chaos this time around, which are even stronger than Leviathan and Mjolnir, and is still considered fodder compared to other Greek weaponry like the Blade of Artemis.
 
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You realize that Thor actually succeeded in killing Kratos, right? Literally killed him then brought him back to life. Kratos himself admitted that Thor's attacks hit as heavy as he'd ever felt and that he was fortunate their battle didn't reach a conclusion.
Both of them were fortunate, in large part due to the fact that Thor is close enough in strength that a moment's carelessness could result in, well, the above and the fact that Kratos was going out of his way to hold back during the fight. The next time they meet, Thor is going all out and wants to kill Kratos outright and a more serious Kratos soundly beats him in combat while still trying not to kill him.
The reason I chose Hercules is that Hercules doesn't have as many hax compared to the other Greek gods, and I'm also unfamiliar with the previous GoW games that took place in the Greek mythology. Thor can also amp himself using Mjolnir, which he did against Kratos in their second battle.
When did this "amp" happen?
 
Leviathan and Mjolnir, and is still considered fodder
Tbf the weapons power also depend on The user heavily

Since stuff like blades of chaos can stab base zeus in gow 3 yet they weren't the weapons that kill ares)unless i misremember some context or forget some upgrade)
 
Tbf the weapons power also depend on The user heavily
The weapon's power depends massively on the user's power level. The weapon is only gonna be as strong as the user itself. However, some weapons are massively stronger than others even with Kratos amping them, like the Blade of Artemis, Spear of Destiny, BoO, etc.

Since stuff like blades of chaos can stab base zeus in gow 3 yet they weren't the weapons that kill ares)unless i misremember some context or forget some upgrade)
Kratos doesn't use the Blades of Chaos in GOW2 and GOW3, he uses the Blades of Athena throughout EoG GOW1-Ghost of Sparta-GOW2 and then the Blades of Exile throughout GOW3, Blades of Athena were upgraded by Athena herself to the Blades of Exile after the Styx corroded them to irreparability.

Blades of Chaos and Athena/Exile are not the same sets. The Blades are a two way street when it comes to amping, they empower him with every kill and he empowers them back even harder. With the Blades of Athena however, it's all Kratos.
 
Tbf the weapons power also depend on The user heavily

Since stuff like blades of chaos can stab base zeus in gow 3 yet they weren't the weapons that kill ares)unless i misremember some context or forget some upgrade)
Those were the Blades of Exile, which are specifically upgraded versions of the Blades of Chaos. Like, there's many weapons stated to be superior to the Blades of Chaos (the Blade of Artemis, Blade of Olympus, hell even the Spear of Destiny).
 
Thor can also amp himself using Mjolnir, which he did against Kratos in their second battle.
He didn't amp himself using Mjolnir, that's just Thor being angry and going Rage Mode, the only weapons that amplify strength in God of War lore are the Blades of Chaos, and even that is a two-way street. Everything else is just insanely strong or made of highly impeccable craftsmanship by the hands of either Hephaestus, Athena or Zeus that just so happen to be incredibly good power filters for the gods to filter their powers through to use more efficiently. Case in point? Blade of Olympus.
 
The weapon's power depends massively on the user's power level. The weapon is only gonna be as strong as the user itself. However, some weapons are massively stronger than others even with Kratos amping them, like the Blade of Artemis, Spear of Destiny, BoO, etc.
Hell, I will point out another example of weapons just being way stronger than what Kratos amping them will give him to the point where he can just pick a stronger weapon instead without any fuss.

Blade of the Gods.

When Kratos was amped with a sliver of Hope against Ares, all of his armanents (Blades of Chaos and Blade of Artemis included) and magic struggled massively to even make a dent on Ares' armor as per the GOW1 novel, forcing Kratos to ram Ares' own spider-arms through his body, which obviously pisses off Ares and so the latter uses cheat codes and apparitions of Lysandra and Calliope (Kratos's wife and child) and then not only strips Kratos's powers and magic to use for himself against Kratos (He literally uses Souls of Hades against Kratos in the final stage of the fight), but also kills said apparitions to drive Kratos into peak despair and depression to then kill him. The only thing Kratos has left is his giant form and Godly strength, but without a weapon or the will to fight back, he's dead.

But oh wait! There is a big-ass golden blade at the statue of Athena! Kratos dodges at the last second and then yanks the blade out. That blade does way more damage to Ares than his own spider-arms, and ultimately it is the very blade that allows Kratos to kill Ares and achieve victory.
 
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Anyways, I vote Hercules for having a pretty sizeable strength advantage and being able to use the Cestuses to be able to stun Thor regardless of where he flies around. The lightning hax and hammer throws won't mean much given that he could even dodge and parry GoW3 Hades Soul Amped Kratos's attacks with significant ease.
 
TBh, i will thor tbh, Several massive blunt-force blows to the head sure is his weakness if you have seen how kratos kills him and i don't thor would go in rage mode if he is enjoying the fight and would likely just go serious. Plus, thor is fat he will eat those fists.
 
TBh, i will thor tbh, Several massive blunt-force blows to the head sure is his weakness if you have seen how kratos kills him and i don't thor would go in rage mode if he is enjoying the fight and would likely just go serious. Plus, thor is fat he will eat those fists.
Kratos was deadass mad when he clobbered Hercules' face in. Even then it took him 19 blows with the Cestuses to do so, and even then Hercules was easily able to put Kratos on the ropes dozens of times. This is ignoring the fact that Kratos wanted nothing to do with Hercules and the latter was the only other person that Kratos had called "brother".
 
Kratos was deadass mad when he clobbered Hercules' face in. Even then it took him 19 blows with the Cestuses to do so, and even then Hercules was easily able to put Kratos on the ropes dozens of times. This is ignoring the fact that Kratos wanted nothing to do with Hercules and the latter was the only other person that Kratos had called "brother".
Still, thor would likely go to that conclusion if wants to end the fight, atleast he would call hercules "the toughest fight he has had".
 
9:26 About 10 was required actually, kratos just went overkill

Check carefully, Hercules is still blinking at the 14 hit mark. If you hold off from hitting any further, Hercules will actually grunt lightly in pain, his face is caved in at the 15th with no eyes left, if you do not hit him beyond that, then the game will continue normally as if you had landed 19 hits. Hercules truly dies at the 19th hit.
 
This doesnt excuse several blunt force trauma but reinforces it, thor will crack the hercu-nut like his hammer was intended. Also what will the resistances that herc has would thor even use, i doubt thor will run through does problem as he has little to no hax compared to the hax gigachad monster that was GOW III kratos
 
Still, thor would likely go to that conclusion if wants to end the fight, atleast he would call hercules "the toughest fight he has had".
It still wouldn't save Thor in the long run, he still got mid-diffed by a super-serious-but-not-going-all-out Ragnarok Kratos.
 
Check carefully, Hercules is still blinking at the 14 hit mark. If you hold off from hitting any further, Hercules will actually grunt lightly in pain, his face is caved in at the 15th with no eyes left, if you do not hit him beyond that, then the game will continue normally as if you had landed 19 hits. Hercules truly dies at the 19th hit.
Oh fair but past that it's moreso a endurance feat If anything imo, no irl human would survive having that face
 
This doesnt excuse several blunt force trauma but reinforces it, thor will crack the hercu-nut like his hammer was intended.
Kind of does once you consider that this is Hades Soul Amped Kratos using the Nemean Cestus to further enhance his own blows, it's the only thing that Hercules actually calls a challenge once you rip those off of him. Not to mention Kratos is straight up going all-out here.
 
Kind of does once you consider that this is Hades Soul Amped Kratos using the Nemean Cestus to further enhance his own blows, it's the only thing that Hercules actually calls a challenge once you rip those off of him. Not to mention Kratos is straight up going all-out here.
Well thor wil go all-out aswell to get MAXIMUM ENJOYMENT, btw your forgetting that thor is fat bro.
 
Oh fair but past that it's moreso a endurance feat If anything imo, no irl human would survive having that face
And? Those hits weren't from a holding-back Kratos. Those hits were from a fully-mad, enraged and full-power Kratos with the physical amps of the Titans (Before anyone uses the River Styx argument, I'll just tell you right now that Kratos literally beat the shit out of a superbly-amped Hades from the millions of souls that just died due to Poseidon's flood plus the Underworld empowerment bullshit, Hades on his own was solo'ing Titans by the dozen and putting up an even better performance than Poseidon was), his own God powers into the mix (Because of which the Blade of Olympus is a useless hunk of metal now that only serves to channel Kratos's own magical power and won't light up or function at all without him physically touching it, because he took all of his godly powers back from it), Hades soul amp, and the Boots of Hermes.
 
Well thor wil go all-out aswell to get MAXIMUM ENJOYMENT, btw your forgetting that thor is fat bro.
Thor might be fat, but Hercules is a literal hunk of muscle that towers over even the mighty Greek Kratos who himself is taller than his Norse self (7ft 8in). In the Special Features, Hercules is straight up stated to be 12ft tall and 4000 lbs.
 
And? Those hits weren't from a holding-back Kratos. Those hits were from a fully-mad, enraged and full-power Kratos with the physical amps of the Titans (Before anyone uses the River Styx argument, I'll just tell you right now that Kratos literally beat the shit out of a superbly-amped Hades from the millions of souls that just died due to Poseidon's flood plus the Underworld empowerment bullshit, Hades on his own was solo'ing Titans by the dozen and putting up an even better performance than Poseidon was), his own God powers into the mix (Because of which the Blade of Olympus is a useless hunk of metal now that only serves to channel Kratos's own magical power and won't light up or function at all without him physically touching it, because he took all of his godly powers back from it), Hades soul amp, and the Boots of Hermes.
Ik it's impresive just pointed out less than 19 hits would be needed to **** up hercules face🗿
Also don't The boots of hermes Only amp travel speed
 
Ik it's impresive just pointed out less than 19 hits would be needed to **** up hercules face🗿
Also don't The boots of hermes Only amp travel speed
Boots of Hermes amplify all aspects of speed, otherwise Kratos wouldn't be using it to light enemies on fire or uppercut them into the horizon, it's just that Kratos on his own is fast enough to not even consider using the boots as much as Hermes does, though then again, Hermes is a lazy piece of shit.
 
And thor is slightly shorter. (Not really)
Thor IIRC was figured to be 2.414 meters as per this (Some mad idiot managed to rip out the game files and do comparisons that way, granted some of the characters are a bit undersized like Hercules being 3.341 meters, literally a foot shorter than his actual official statement size, but I guess the errors are too negligible to make heads or tails out of).
 
Thor IIRC was figured to be 2.414 meters as per this (Some mad idiot managed to rip out the game files and do comparisons that way, granted some of the characters are a bit undersized like Hercules being 3.341 meters, literally a foot shorter than his actual official statement size, but I guess the errors are too negligible to make heads or tails out of).
Wtf it's That size difference between baldur ans greek kratos,💀
 
Hercules seems to have the strength and endurance advantage and would likely be able to take advantage of his larger size to grapple and pin down Thor for some rather heavy attacks, similar to what he would normally do to Kratos. While Thor has the range advantage with his lightning powers, Mjolnir and is also capable of inducing temporary paralysis on Hercules to get some blows in. Close quarters, Hercules seems to have the edge, as that's his predominant fighting style, as opposed to Thor's Mjolnir centered one.

Overall, I'd honestly give it to Hercules after a very grueling fight. He's relative to a peak Kratos in physicality, who we saw eat a full power blow from Mjolnir to the face with little issue, so head shots aren't quite the advantage for Thor one would think he has. Kratos was putting far more into his fight with Hercules and subsequent beating than he was when we later fought Thor. And while Hercules doesn't quite have the same versatility as him, he would eventually overwhelm the former in combat.

In short, Hercules takes this after a very heavy battle imo.
 
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