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This is Sparta! No! This is Patrick!

Jackythejack said:
Because making living beings the same size as him outta sand is gonna effect things?
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Patrick can fly with them and even turn him on fire with his missiles.
 
It's still a really small fire, and I'm pretty sure there's water in Central Park.

It's the equivalent of a firecracker essentiallt
 
Swap the quotes in the title so it looks like Patrick answering Leonidas ovo
 
Genericstickman said:
Doesn't Patrick also have duplication when his hand is removed
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He can´t control the copies as they pretty much become their own, separate being, but they could help if also threatened too.
 
So, which one is better, "High (Fell off a cliff several times and got up as if nothing happened)" or "Peak Human (Can fight for extended periods of time without tiring)"?
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
So, which one is better, "High (Fell off a cliff several times and got up as if nothing happened)" or "Peak Human (Can fight for extended periods of time without tiring)"?
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That doesn't seem like stamina.
 
Leonidas has no method of reducing Patrick to dust.

But, if Patrick is scaled to his average height, he might simply recoil in fear at the large screaming man taunting him with a spear, as he does when there's anything much larger than him that is hostile (Deep Sea Diver, Bull Worm). Or simply incapacitate the starfish by dropping his shield on him because he simply won't be able to support that weight at his size.

Other than that, no real method of killing either party. Patrick cannot build things large enough to hurt Leonidas and the Starfish won't die.

Inconclusive, leaning on Leonidas if Patrick is his average height.
 
Patrick can just dig his way out of the shield.

Second, Leonidas eats weird starfish alive in characte?
 
Bobsican said:
Patrick can just dig his way out of the shield.

Second, Leonidas eats weird starfish alive in characte?
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"Dig his way out"

Not through the shield, no, what's stopping him from being trapped again? What if the this happened somewhere on pavement where his AP is not sufficient enough to dig? Where in Central Park can Patrick even use his life manipulation in the first place?

There's a lot of unanswered questions here.
 
Well, his small size would allow him to just push himself out.

As for the life manip, isn´t there some sand in Central Park?
 
How so? When it's shape allows it to be used to trap him in a dome, he also simply doesn't have the strength to do so at his size, even at his maximum he wouldn't be able to lift the shield if Leonidas simply presses his foot on it to keep it down.

Near some of water bodies, but walkways are more abundant and thus easier to come across. Also, given Patrick's average intelligence, it would be safe to say he wouldn't be actively looking for the opportunity to create small sand people with what is effectively a giant actively trying to kill him, it simply wouldn't be on his list of priorities.
 
Bobsican said:
Would Leonidas do that in character?
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Well, he is a strategist, he did lead 300 men into favorable outcomes against thousands of Persians. I do not see why once he realizes he can't kill Patrick he'll at least attempt to isolate him in a manner that stops him from being attacked, granted Patrick is small. It's akin to us trying to isolate an insect, nothing really out of sorts.
 
Patrick managed to get himself out of a can of mayo, so he should be able to escape it with his toon force.
 
Bobsican said:
Patrick managed to get himself out of a can of mayo, so he should be able to escape it with his toon force.
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Yet could not use it to help him get out of Sandy's dome, so it's rather inconsistent and unreliable.
 
Sandy´s dome would require 9-B AP, which would make the feat not usable here anyways as this is 10-C Patrick.

And even if it´s unreliable (which likely is), it´s still a possibility.
 
Bobsican said:
Sandy´s dome would require 9-B AP, which would make the feat not usable here anyways as this is 10-C Patrick.

And even if it´s unreliable (which likely is), it´s still a possibility.
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If that's so, how is the can of mayo at all relevant? Leonidas' shield should be able to sustain the upper limits of 9-C, if not 9-B.

It's a possibility, but the inconsistency does not make it a determining factor.
 
It being a possibility means that it should be kept in mind as it can happen, especially if in extended periods of time.

How the can of mayo is relevant? It shouldn´t take beyond 10-C AP to get out of it considering the size of it.

I would just use 9-B Patrick, but I know he would just stomp.
 
Bobsican said:
It being a possibility means that it should be kept in mind as it can happen, especially if in extended periods of time.

How the can of mayo is relevant? It shouldn´t take beyond 10-C AP to get out of it considering the size of it.

I would just use 9-B Patrick, but I know he would just stomp.
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But in context towards the shield that doesn't work, as that would be beyond anything 10-C Patrick could physically break out of, no that it matters, as it was a Toon Force argument to begin with, not raw AP.

It ca happen, but the percentage of times that comes into fruition is minimal, as it is unreliable and thus in a 10 out of 10 outcome, it may only happen 2 out of 10 of those times, if that makes sense.

Of course, it would be illogical to put a 9-C within human capabilities vs. a 9-B with regen the other combatant cannot surpass.
 
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