This fight had to happen later or sooner [0-0-9]

[Spinoirr]

Yes, a CRT was made a while back that removed the information that allowed it upgrade to 3U, but toei kept it.

Uh the anime profiles still say three

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Uh the anime profiles still say three

Yea, it hasn't been removed yet

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Gogeta fra

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Anyway, this is a stomp and shouldn't be added to the profiles.

Like Gogeta outskills, AP stomps, has better RPL (iirc Cabba's growth wasn't even that impressive at all in anything he had done in the DBS anime compared to Caulifla or Kale), can absorb energy blasts from Cabba to amp himself even further, and has more techniques. Even if Gogeta defuses, then Goku and Vegeta can keep on fighting in SSJ4 and still has a AP advantage, still outskills cabba, and a 2v1 advantage, and they only have to wait an hour to simply fuse into Gogeta once more. Cabba also doesn't even have knowledge of the metamoran fusion technique. He'll just see a furry version of both Goku and his master pose into Gogeta.
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Like even with stats equalized, Gogeta still has a bunch of ridiculous advantages.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Oh well, was hoping Cabba would slap him silly for the memes, but I've gotta vote Gogeta FRA.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Gogeta the dude FRA

 

[Omegas03]

bois this is a stomp this can't be added

Cabba is simply too much for SSJ4 Gogeta to handle

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Oh well, was hoping Cabba would slap him silly for the memes, but I've gotta vote Gogeta FRA.

Normally he would but .......

 

[Omegas03]

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Oh well, was hoping Cabba would slap him silly for the memes, but I've gotta vote Gogeta FRA.

Bro, GT/Toei scaling chain is broken and more than DBS. DBS doesn't get its absurd scaling chain until TOP and Cabba is on the lower end of that list. Goku receives Zenkais and growth that make him demolish GT previous villains in base, Vegeta manages to keep up and receives SSJ4 to match Goku's, GT villains massively scale above Toei Buuhan 2-C feat. Even Pan scales above Buu due to rage amps and damaging Rildo.

Gogeta could literally blink and Cabba gets Omega Shenron'ed.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

One day in a far future, another twink like Cabba will appear and powercreep beerus, whis, and zeno.

 

[Omegas03]

Funnily enough I think DBS SH Goten and Trunks stomp SSJ4 Gogeta here.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Funnily enough I think DBS SH Goten and Trunks stomp SSJ4 Gogeta here.

A Hypothetical SSJ3 Gotenks is probably stronger than Broly Movie Gogeta tbh

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Funnily enough I think DBS SH Goten and Trunks stomp SSJ4 Gogeta here.

they do. And people complain that toei scaling makes no sense

 

[Omegas03]

A Hypothetical SSJ3 Gotenks is probably stronger than Broly Movie Gogeta tbh

I think hypothetical Gotenks would be equivalent to Gogeta form by form but too lazy to make my scaling up rn

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I think hypothetical Gotenks would be equivalent to Gogeta form by form but too lazy to make my scaling up rn

SSJ Goten and Trunks are about as strong as the Gammas I believe

 

[Omegas03]

PU Gohan is about as strong as the Gammas, how are SSJ Goten and Trunks on that level?

 

[Spinoirr]

PU Gohan is about as strong as the Gammas, how are SSJ Goten and Trunks on that level?

Probably from the dbs manga

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

. DBS doesn't get its absurd scaling chain until TOP

Yea .......no

Only reason gogeta stomps here is because of the DBS spacetime downgrade GT didn't come close to the power creep DBS has had, starting from BoG

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Yea .......no

Only reason gogeta stomps here is because of the DBS spacetime downgrade GT didn't come close to the power creep DBS has had, starting from BoG

Fair. I didn't know that.

 

[RedReaper616]

Ehhhh. GT has just as bad powercreep, it's just contained within a smaller package of time and confusion (64 episodes) whilst reliant on prior events/continuity compared to Super, which had double the time (131) and is self-sufficient. Without the 2-C feat we directly have from the Z-Anime, GT wouldn't be close at all. Super starts off with a claim to fame outright and then grows from there.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

I'm curious, how did this meme matchup even begin? What meme is this that people are making up with SS4 Gogeta vs Cabba?

 

[Omegas03]

Strongest Dragon Ball GT character vs random DBS fodder

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Strongest Dragon Ball GT character vs random DBS fodder

Downplayed DBS fodder tbh. The SSG multiplier being 'only' 160,000x is just an extreme acceptable lowball.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Downplayed DBS fodder tbh. The SSG multiplier being 'only' 160,000x is just an extreme acceptable lowball.

It did get folded by Base Kefla tho

 

[Spinoirr]

It did get folded by Base Kefla tho

That's because Potra Fusion be broken as hell

 

[CryoTheMayo]

It did get folded by Base Kefla tho

If you adhere to the 'A x B' scan then Fusion mult grows as the characters get stronger.

 

[Spinoirr]

Downplayed DBS fodder tbh. The SSG multiplier being 'only' 160,000x is just an extreme acceptable lowball.

Er isn't the ssj God Multiplier 400 x 400 Aka stronger then ssj3 Vegito?

That's 17,600x

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Er isn't the ssj God Multiplier 400 x 400 Aka stronger then ssj3 Vegito?

That's 17,600x

400 x 400 is 160,000. Fusion has other multipliers like A x B or Sum of parts x dozens of times.

The multiplier I prefer currently is:
(A + B) times X where X is a variable starting from 20 (plural dozens)

So Vegito would be:
Base = (400 + 100) x 20 = 10,000x
Super = 10,000 x 50 = 500,000x
Super 2 = 500,000 x 2 = 1,000,000x
Super 3 = 1,000,000 x 4 = 4,000,000x

So the real SSG multiplier in my head would be >4,000,000x base.

 

[Kidkinsey]

this is wild, twitter gaslit me into thinking Gogeta gets stomped (and I believed it because super is generally stronger than GT) I gotta do more research this is a good topic

 

[Tipper17]

this is wild, twitter gaslit me into thinking Gogeta gets stomped (and I believed it because super is generally stronger than GT) I gotta do more research this is a good topic

Well for starters it's Twitter
And two the reason GT gets short end of the stick because feat wise most of its best shit comes from Toeiland era Z DB

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

The Brawl Meta Knight of BT3 FRA

 

[Kidkinsey]

Well for starters it's Twitter
And two the reason GT gets short end of the stick because feat wise most of its best shit comes from Toeiland era Z DB

Soooooooooo omega shenron can beat jiren The ssg vs ss4 debates from 2016 need to get necro'd lol

 

[Spinoirr]

this is wild, twitter gaslit me into thinking Gogeta gets stomped (and I believed it because super is generally stronger than GT) I gotta do more research this is a good topic

 

[Kidkinsey]

Just finished it. I am shocked lol, I was deadass under the impression ssg BOG goku clears most of GT

 

[TiltedFN]

Just finished it. I am shocked lol, I was deadass under the impression ssg BOG goku clears most of GT

It does

 

[StekFence]

Well for starters it's Twitter
And two the reason GT gets short end of the stick because feat wise most of its best shit comes from Toeiland era Z DB

Would cabba win if Super and toei were accepted to be canon to one another?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Would cabba win if Super and toei were accepted to be canon to one another?

Aren't they already are in terms of cosmology? That while scaling is not the same they're accepted as alternate versions of each other

 

[Huesito88]

Aren't they already are in terms of cosmology? That while scaling is not the same they're accepted as alternate versions of each other

He means that Buuhan is 2-C, so how high would his scaling be hypothetically

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

He means that Buuhan is 2-C, so how high would his scaling be hypothetically

If we accept 2-C Buuhan into Super?

Buuhan = 2-C

Vegito > Buuhan (Vegito should scale above Buuhan regardless. He's stronger than Goku and Vegeta's combined power by tens of times)

SSJ Vegito = 50 * Base

SSJ3 Vegito = 8 * SSJ

BoG SSG Goku >>> SSJ3 Vegito in Buu Saga

And you can continue the rest from there