Think Cumber (and some other non canon characters) should have a profile?

[Jeune_fou]

I mean Cumber is a beast: In his base form he can take on SSB Vegito with kaioken.

Also we should consider characters such as golden Cooler.

Btw: if Cumber is showed to be able to go against xeno Goku, would that mean he is tie 2 - B?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Cumber will have a profile.

Goku considered his restricted state in the games as powerful as Xeno Jiren (Likely Limit Breaker as that was the most recent version of him) and Xeno Beerus . This was before unrestricted base . Before Super Saiyan, before Golden Great Ape.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Goku considered his restricted state in the games as powerful as Xeno Jiren (Likely Limit Breaker as that was the most recent version of him) and Xeno Beerus . This was before unrestricted base . Before Super Saiyan, before Golden Great Ape.

Wait so Cumber with the straight jacket>Jiren and Beerus?

Holy shit!

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Described exactly as " a kind of strength different from Beerus and Jire " .

Remember Supreme Kai described a " different kind of strength " when comparing Jiren to everyone that the Z-Fighters fought prior, in the exact same way Goku describes Cumber in comparison to Jiren & Beerus.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

So in the same way Jiren>Fusion Zamasu is how Cumber>Jiren.

I guess one could say that quote means his ki is just so different from theirs, but seeing how he beat Vegito Blue in his base form, can go super saiyan and then golden great ape, this is probably not the case.

 

[Jeune_fou]

Damn! Cumber is so OP ... my god ... the only thing I knew about him came from the promotional anime! But that's beyond pretty much anythign we saw in all of DB (even among not canon elements).

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Well...there's non canon Zeno....

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@SuperGodzilla

Basically

The term "strength" kind of implies differently. If they were referring to different type of ki, they would've said " A kind of ki different from Beerus and Jiren " . He direct says the strength of their ki, implying a difference in power rather than how their ki works .

There is... He's barely mentioned though.

@Jeune

Quite. And it's funny that Fu pretty much fodderized SSJ1 Cumber without any effort. He wasn't even anywhere near serious . It was like seeing Goku fighting Beerus for the first time.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

can't wait for Fu and Cumber to have profiles

 

[Jeune_fou]

@SuperGodzilla
Basically

The term "strength" kind of implies differently. If they were referring to different type of ki, they would've said " A kind of ki different from Beerus and Jiren " . He direct says the strength of their ki, implying a difference in power rather than how their ki works .

@Jeune

Quite. And it's funny that Fu pretty much fodderized SSJ1 Cumber without any effort. He wasn't even anywhere near serious . It was like seeing Goku fighting Beerus for the first time.

OMG! I knew Fuu was strong when he deflected a ki blast from SSJ4 Xeno Goku in the promotional anime but you're telling me he effortlessly defeated SSJ Cumber ... Powers definitely are CRAZY in non canon dragon ball!

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Jeune I mean... It kind of makes sense. It explains how Fu managed to get him in that jacket in the first place.

DBH Downplayers: No one is going to surpass Beerus or even Jiren anytime soon.

Cumber & Fu: Hold my beer .

@Dragon .... I do as well.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

However....at least the pecking order remains intact. Zeno on top, Grand Priest, angels, those rare mortals and the Hakaishin

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

The 2nd Existential Seed
Wait Fu bodies Cumber? When Vegito couldn't!?

 

[Jeune_fou]

The 2nd Existential Seed

Wait Fu bodies Cumber? When Vegito couldn't!?
Considering what the 2nd exitencial seed said, normally Fu should indeed be superior to Cumber.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

That's one major bump for Fu, considering last time we saw him he wasn't even deemed a threat by the Time Patrol

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

In Xenoverse he definitely was. He was comparable to MUI Goku, and was almost Angel level because he affected Who's & Vados with his powers.

 

[Peter1129]

Wait so Restrained Cumber > Beerus and Jiren? That doesn't really make sense since the Broly movie article thing said Goku is nearing the lvl of God's and Vegeta is trying to catch up. So how are they able to defeat restrained Cumber who is stronger than Jiren if they are both still weaker than Beerus? Unless the Prison Planet Arc takes place after the Broly movie where they gotten even stronger. Or maybe they are referring unrestrained Base Cumber being stronger. Since they did the same thing with Jiren in the tournament of power.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Cumber told them that he amused them, and wanted to show off his full power. They didn't force him to take off the restraints... He did it because he wanted to show them full respect of his full base power.

 

[Peter1129]

Oh so what the Dragon Ball wiki said about SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta beating back Base Cumber was wrong.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

In Xenoverse, he was just playing around.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Yeah... Goku and Vegeta working together only managed to entertain Cumber, not overwhelm him.

 

[InfiniteBlack123]

Fuu in his first appearance absorbed the entire Xenoverse, he created a timeline where Demigra was the Supreme Kai of time and then absorbed it like nothing. Only Xenoverse 2 patroller remembered it.

That imo is a massive 2A tier feat imo.

Consider how everytime patroller is 2B and all of them along with everythin else was absorbed.

 

[Peter1129]

You can't become 2-A from being massively stronger than many 2-Bs.

 

[Saint_rider_890]

@SuperGodzilla
Basically

The term "strength" kind of implies differently. If they were referring to different type of ki, they would've said " A kind of ki different from Beerus and Jiren " . He direct says the strength of their ki, implying a difference in power rather than how their ki works .

There is... He's barely mentioned though.

@Jeune

Quite. And it's funny that Fu pretty much fodderized SSJ1 Cumber without any effort. He wasn't even anywhere near serious . It was like seeing Goku fighting Beerus for the first time.

Do you have any link for Fu beat SSJ 1 Cumber ?

 

[Izreldan]

So when will Cumber have a profile?

 

[LightinAnt]

I agree, Cumber should have a profile, also Broly will drop in Super Dragon ball Heroes, so are we going in the "composite Broly" direction going forward or if he has feats do we make another profile for him and his movie version too?

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