The very last Anos Voldigoad Downgrade CRT

[YuuxGod97]

Would you be willing to evaluate this please?

I would also implore that he heavily look into the rejection arguments made by me, and many others, not only on this CRT, but his nigh 100% similar previous CRT’s as well.


Please.

 

[YuuxGod97]

^ As he didn’t do any of the rejections, and certainly not my own any justice in his break down. In fact, his summary seems highly biased in his favor, downplaying our debunk arguments.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, that is obviously much preferable.

 

[YuuxGod97]

Yes, that is obviously much preferable.

Also, little off topic, how the hell do I get added as a supporter for Maou Gaukin on the VsB verse page?

 

[Antvasima]

You just add yourself to it. As long as you are willing to help out with revision threads here in this forum, it is fine to do so.

You should use the same username here and in the wiki though. Otherwise it will be very hard to send notifications to you here.

 

[AncientKing95]

^ As he didn’t do any of the rejections, and certainly not my own any justice in his break down. In fact, his summary seems highly biased in his favor, downplaying our debunk arguments.

Look, I implore you to go over the reasoning for your rejection one last time, and I'll properly respond to it. Of course, you're not obligated to. However, from the arguments I've seen in this thread, as well as what I remember in previous threads, what I summarized of Stance B is pretty much all the arguments in favor of rejection.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Having read your previous threads, most of the arguments are regurgitated. They’ve been debunked before, and most won’t waste their time doing it again.
That being said, I could see a “Likely 2-B,” due to Anos while suppressing his powers heavily, scale to the 2-C Lions.
Venuzdonoa even functioning the same in deep layers negates most of these points, with absolutely zero anti-feats to debunk it.
The statement of Venuzdonoa includes the wording, “no matter how eternal, infinite..” and some other shit I forget at this very moment. So, unless this is one of those stupid, “World ONLY equals Planet!!!”, arguments. It stands to reason, it’s still pretty heavily implied that Venuzdonoa is of 2-B tiering.
There’s really no argument against it, that doesn’t contain fallacious assumptions, as of right now, like someone else said whose name I forget atm.
All of creation, does in fact mean all of creation, without a single anti-feat to speak of. All of creation, no matter how infinite implies that even if the Universe was...say 1 trillion times larger than Anos though, it would still stand. Because of, “no matter how eternal, infinite, etc”. It stands pretty concretely, including the “no matter how eternal, or infinite,” though I’d like to include in my argument this. You’re really downplaying Venuzdonoa working in the deeper layers, each layer is infinitely more powerful than the previous. To argue that as NLF is just ridiculous, because it’s not. NLF would be to say it could destroy...Featherine, or Akuto, or Herald Thor, due to its phrasing. That’s not the case though, this claim was made in verse, about Maou Gaukin. Considering that Venuzdonoa has literally destroyed everything it’s faced so far, save for Anos, because he is above Venuzdonoa.
Side Note; While Sasha gets boosts(in a way, that was badly worded), to match the deeper layer inhabitants. Venuzdonoa never has had to, because of the following, it is Deeper Magic;



What could destroy Layer 11 entirely, couldn’t destroy a pebble in Layer 12. While this may not be the argument against that specific claim you made, I think you’re downplaying the success of Venuzdonoa in the deeper layers way too much.
I had to take this from the cosmology page made by Zer0Null.



“This states that there are more than 99 layers, and each layer has infinite size and contains countless worlds”
Adding into the previous statements I have made,
Venuzdonoa destroys on the basis that no matter how, “infinite,” it will still be destroyed. I implore this, there’s still no anti-feats, and let’s not forget that Anos is literally superior to Venuzdonoa. Venuzdonoa not effecting Anos is not an anti-feat either, Anos Eye’s perform very similar to Venuzdonoa, and we’ve seen two Venuzdonoa cancel each other out. Thus, not an anti-feat
Also this;



Maou Gaukin as a verse has already proved that “World” mean Universe, unless the counter arguments include proof that it doesn’t, they’re null. More often than not, and a majority of the time, World = Universe in Maou Gaukin.
It’s been used to describe the entire Bubbles, which are a Universe. I know, this is still going to be argued against by deniers.
But unless you’re providing verifiable proof that World =/= Universes, when using the term Earth is usually described onto a singular planet. I’m happy to listen, but it’s up to you to prove it. Considering that the verse heavily implies World = Universe the majority of the time.



TL/DR; This has been rejected before, due to the same arguments I’ve made. If this is anything like the previous threads, it’ll become a cluster **** of circulation of the same arguments with no end. I also don’t believe you’ll stop making these, it’s impossible to sway your opinion, as evident by previous threads, and your own absolution believing you are correct.
I disagree FRA that everyone else has given, and for the reasons I’ve given.

Honestly, even if the CRT gets rejected, I think that this argument should be on Anos' profile (at least the scans)

 

[YuuxGod97]

Look, I implore you to go over the reasoning for your rejection one last time, and I'll properly respond to it. Of course, you're not obligated to. However, from the arguments I've seen in this thread, as well as what I remember in previous threads, what I summarized of Stance B is pretty much all the arguments in favor of rejection.

Incorrect, thought it’s not entirely your fault. It’s hard to gather a generalized 6-8 full pages of the reasons your same argument has been dismissed in the past.

 

[YuuxGod97]

Honestly, even if the CRT gets rejected, I think that this argument should be on Anos' profile (at least the scans)

Why would an argument that’s been rejected for 8 total pages worth of time, be considered a profile worthy argument?

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Why would an argument that’s been rejected for 8 total pages worth of time, be considered a profile worthy argument?

I mean your arguments, not CRT's arguments

Honestly, I think that the actual description of Venuzdonoa's AP seems so NLF, and the scans about it affecting deeper layers (among others) should help

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

You just add yourself to it. As long as you are willing to help out with revision threads here in this forum, it is fine to do so.

You should use the same username here and in the wiki though. Otherwise it will be very hard to send notifications to you here.

Ant, this whole thread is a chaos, and the arguments from the OP have been rejected countless times, I think that this can be closes now.

 

[YuuxGod97]

I mean your arguments, not CRT's arguments

Honestly, I think that the actual description of Venuzdonoa's AP seems so NLF, and the scans about it affecting deeper layers (among others) should help

Oh, my bad, I mean I don’t know how to edit profiles for shit. I use a mobile device, because I’m too broke to afford a computer. If this is, FINALLY, once and for all rejected. & He truly sticks to his word about this being the last, I wouldn’t make making a suggestion CRT for these scans to be added.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. If @Celestial_Pegasus wants to add his own analysis here later, he can reopen this thread.