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This post may be a bit long but I think it’s necessary and may hopefully spark a brand-new discussion.
As we all know the feat of Kirito shaking the universe has been very divisive in versus debating communities and even in the SAO community. I used to be on the side of those who believed it was real but after some mulling over and thinking I realized something… How the hell do you shake the universe or even space? The term “space” (if you believe the Yen Press translation) is already vague enough, and the Universe can’t exactly be shaken, at least in the context people were thinking of a literal quake. It’s just not a tierable feat, especially within SAO.
But that got me thinking, why did the Mecahdragons shake during the scene, why did Steeka think the stars were "rippling like water", and why does Reki’s WoG even say that people could feel the “shaking”? Well, my friends, it’s because we’ve been looking at this feat wrong. That’s right there was no shaking… it was simply a shockwave. Now before you discredit me I’m gonna go in-depth and try to explain my reasonings for this.
We know that a feat, or well, something happened when Kirito deflected the attack from the Abyssal Horror. Steeka claims to see the stars reflect like rippling water which is immediately followed up with the narrator saying that a shockwave roared past her (this is consistent in Yen Press).
So there, we have proof a shockwave happened, but of course, I will have to address a debunk that comes from Reki’s Word of God.
Reki himself states that there are no gas molecules in Underworld meaning that a shockwave cannot be formed. Normally someone would stop there but he immediately follows it up with this.
The real non MTL translation done on site can be found here and here, it's basically the same though
Reki is clearly talking about incarnation which we know makes things that are normally not possible happen and can even warp reality. So, it’s a shockwave created by incarnation which is very much supported by the source material.
Notice how in this scene Kirito deflects the AH’s attack with an Incarno-Barrier? Then when the shockwave is created by blocking the attack it causes the Incarnometer to go up to 20% ONLY when the shockwave passes by her Mechadragon? I think that’s a clear cut case of Incarnation causing a “rewriting event.”
Now the real question is how powerful is this feat, well we know for a fact that these shockwaves reached Cardina because they broke the Incarnometers in the Integrity Pilot’s office all at once which they mistook as a “mistaken signal last month” when the AH fight happened.
(As supporting evidence that it was even powerful enough to do such a thing Kirito mentions that using Incarnation to simply do something such as destroy a door would set off every Incarnometer in Centoria so imagine what a Shockwave caused by incarnation and a clash between some of the verses strongest would be like.
The rest of the calc can be found here
And there you have it folks, I don’t know if the site will accept this but I presented all my evidence and a calc so I hope at the very least a discussion will come of this. Have a good day and peace!
Agree: @Scottycj256 @Marshadow29
Neutral: @RitsuØ1 @Joycap (suggested a possibly rating)
Disagree: @DMUA @Lonkitt @Excel616
(Addendum, I would be fine with a possibly.)
As we all know the feat of Kirito shaking the universe has been very divisive in versus debating communities and even in the SAO community. I used to be on the side of those who believed it was real but after some mulling over and thinking I realized something… How the hell do you shake the universe or even space? The term “space” (if you believe the Yen Press translation) is already vague enough, and the Universe can’t exactly be shaken, at least in the context people were thinking of a literal quake. It’s just not a tierable feat, especially within SAO.
But that got me thinking, why did the Mecahdragons shake during the scene, why did Steeka think the stars were "rippling like water", and why does Reki’s WoG even say that people could feel the “shaking”? Well, my friends, it’s because we’ve been looking at this feat wrong. That’s right there was no shaking… it was simply a shockwave. Now before you discredit me I’m gonna go in-depth and try to explain my reasonings for this.
We know that a feat, or well, something happened when Kirito deflected the attack from the Abyssal Horror. Steeka claims to see the stars reflect like rippling water which is immediately followed up with the narrator saying that a shockwave roared past her (this is consistent in Yen Press).
So there, we have proof a shockwave happened, but of course, I will have to address a debunk that comes from Reki’s Word of God.
Reki himself states that there are no gas molecules in Underworld meaning that a shockwave cannot be formed. Normally someone would stop there but he immediately follows it up with this.
The real non MTL translation done on site can be found here and here, it's basically the same though
Reki is clearly talking about incarnation which we know makes things that are normally not possible happen and can even warp reality. So, it’s a shockwave created by incarnation which is very much supported by the source material.
Notice how in this scene Kirito deflects the AH’s attack with an Incarno-Barrier? Then when the shockwave is created by blocking the attack it causes the Incarnometer to go up to 20% ONLY when the shockwave passes by her Mechadragon? I think that’s a clear cut case of Incarnation causing a “rewriting event.”
Now the real question is how powerful is this feat, well we know for a fact that these shockwaves reached Cardina because they broke the Incarnometers in the Integrity Pilot’s office all at once which they mistook as a “mistaken signal last month” when the AH fight happened.
(As supporting evidence that it was even powerful enough to do such a thing Kirito mentions that using Incarnation to simply do something such as destroy a door would set off every Incarnometer in Centoria so imagine what a Shockwave caused by incarnation and a clash between some of the verses strongest would be like.
The rest of the calc can be found here
And there you have it folks, I don’t know if the site will accept this but I presented all my evidence and a calc so I hope at the very least a discussion will come of this. Have a good day and peace!
Agree: @Scottycj256 @Marshadow29
Neutral: @RitsuØ1 @Joycap (suggested a possibly rating)
Disagree: @DMUA @Lonkitt @Excel616
(Addendum, I would be fine with a possibly.)
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