The strongest character for every tier part 10

[Ultima_Reality]

so... since some people seem to be interested in this 8-C Battle Royale thing...

should someone do it? o v o

 

[Yobo_Blue]

TBH, high 7-C is better

 

[Assaltwaffle]

so... since some people seem to be interested in this 8-C Battle Royale thing...

should someone do it? o v o

7-B is going on right now and High 6-A is coming after that.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

O well

Anyways, i think The Awake can gain the spot for strongest 8-C with speed equalized, since he can do bullshit stuff such as:

• Turn an enemy's blood, and likely other body parts, into molten lead

• Temporarily reduce their size, and probably their speed as well

• Froze them solid or scorch them to death with their breathing

• Burn up their soul, or kill the very idea of their being. Or stab aspects of their personality

• Materiallize wasps / rattlesnakes inside their lungs / other body parts

• Make them completely weightless or heavy enough to undergo a gravitational collapse

• Nullify pretty much any action that makes noise by either forcing someone to stop moving or by slowing them down

• See into all of the countless possibilities of the future, which can be pretty useful considering that they passively manipulate time and probability to become crazily prepared to most situations

• Rewind their Timeline to make their body return to a point in time where it wasn't injured

• Inflict enemies with whatever disease they diagnose them to have

• Make people randomly fall asleep, or agree with everything they ask them to do, even if it violates core aspects of their personality

Although... he may still lose to whoever has Sleep Manipulation in their arsenal...

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@KingofNegativity

Godwoken can do a lot. Manipulation of all the elements, transmutation (Can turn people into chickens), Petrification, plenty of status inducements and statistic debuffs, statistics increases, and resistance to all of that.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Suimei snaps his fingers, and ppl get killed conceptually, also has higher dimensional defenses to soul and curse manipulation.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

There aren't many Low 6-Bs on the site

Mostly Pokemon and HST

 

[WeeklyBattles]

snip

Does Broadway force, existence erasure, and tier 1 summons count? From a robot?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I mean, i don't think Tier 1 summons should be allowed, since this would defeat the point of him being the strongest 8-C, for obvious reasons

(Broadway Force and Existence Erasure should be ok tho)

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Anyways, i think The Awake can gain the spot for strongest 8-C with speed equalized, since he can do bullshit stuff such as:
[List of impressive stuff]

Although... he may still lose to whoever has Sleep Manipulation in their arsenal...

Flagg literally saying the word "Sleep." would most likely drop him like a sack of potatoes. And he can actually learn that weakness fairly quickly unless the Awake has the ability to block mind reading.
He also has an actual sleeping spell which he used to put Roland to sleep for about a decade in The Gunslinger.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

So, who survives suimei snapping his fingers?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

@KingofNegativity

Godwoken can do a lot. Manipulation of all the elements, transmutation (Can turn people into chickens), Petrification, plenty of status inducements and statistic debuffs, statistics increases, and resistance to all of that.

Ah, status effects. Those are always fun in VS matches.
Not gonna lie, the profile makes them look impressive, at least from a glance.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Depends, does he do it before or after Hatchy boi decides to start a song?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

@KingofNegativity

Wait no, scratch the "may lose" part, The Awake will lose to anyone who has Sleep Manipulation and is willing to use it right off the bat

Can Flagg read The Awake's mind without being bothered by the countless voices that constantly talk / shout in their mind or by a jungle that is also a primordial alternate dimension full of beast gods? if the answer is Yes, The Awake is completely screwed

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

So, who survives suimei snapping his fingers?

Flagg doesn't survive the attack itself, but he can get his powers off at least that fast, if not faster. Most spells are "wave of the hand" type shit, and his commands are literally "He says something, that thing happens."

He can also completely dominate people's emotions just by smiling.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Weekly Suimei often starts battles by snapping his fingers, it's his fav attack really since it's a preprogrammed spell and he doesn't need to chant to use it.

@MrKing Suimei got hit by all the worlds malice, pretty sure empathetic manipulation won't work on him.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

@Ultima:

Dunno. He's never actually done mind reading on someone with multiple voices in their head. Don't think anyone like that actually exists in Stephen King's verse yet. He's capable of digging up memories when he reads a person, but I don't think that's the same thing.

Need to do something IRL real quick, so brb.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

And now I have returned. Anywho.

@MrKing Suimei got hit by all the worlds malice, pretty sure empathetic manipulation won't work on him.

How exactly did he resist it? Was it a "through willpower" kind of deal, or did was he able to put up a defense of some kind?
Also, what're the mechanics behind the whole "snapping to kill people conceptually" thing? Do they just die/disappear instantly?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Magicians naturally have defenses to hax like soul manipulation, curses and such probably stuff like mind manipulation and concept manipulation now that i think about it, but in addition to that he has a spell which gives him higher dimensional resistance to soul and curse manipulation.

But yea he resisted the malice of all of the world cause of his defenses.

When suimei snaps his fingers it creates an explosion around whatever he is aiming at, any fodder magician can kill apparations which are a law of the world, a phenonmenon, conceptual beings, suimei also can also manilpulate higher order concepts, and killed the literal embodiment of malice, and he can attack the ideas behind things and what not.

Though now that i think about it, his finger snapping explosions aren't conceptual cause he has used that on even fodder and they don't die, it's his other spells which are since they have killed appartitions, like one which forms a blade on his arm, another which summonds numerous light from the sky, and another which fuses like 5 different elements to create a higher order concept.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

The explosions can kill conceptual beings, but don't kill fodders? How does that work?

Also, would he have a defense against something like transmutation or sleep inducement? Or biological manipulation?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I just explained that, wasn't remembering the details right, the explosions don't kill conceptual beings, regular magic doesn't work on them, he has to use his higher tiered spells to do that. Like Enth Astrarle, Blue Inscribing Slash, or the unnamed one he used on eanru which was a higher order concept.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Ah, okay. Sorry, must've misread the post the first time around.

But yeah, what kinds of defenses does he have? Anything else that hasn't been said already?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Naturally has resistance to soul manipulation, curse manipulation, empathetic manipulation, mind manipulation (since i remember him saying such defenses was necessary to hide his identity as a magician cause ppl would read his mind, or mind control him to do whatever they wanted), concept manipulation (since he has been in been in life or death fights with magicians on his level and as i said before magicians higher tiered spells can kill apparations).

With Aski-Kataski-Haix-Tetrax-Damnamenus-Aision, he gets protection from evil powers from higher dimensions, so even better resistance to soul manipulation, emphatic manipulation, curse manipulation, and also dark magic actually.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

"With Aski-Kataski-Haix-Tetrax-Damnamenus-Aision, he gets protection from evil powers from higher dimensions, so even better resistance to soul manipulation, emphatic manipulation, curse manipulation, and also dark magic actually."

Lol, that means Sans isn't beating him then.

I think Flagg has a few good options that would still work on this guy, though. I'd say the three most dangerous things he has are his commands (which cover a wide range of things, thanks to how they work), sleep/dream manipulation (can put a person to sleep for ten years IIRC, and dream manip is combat-applicable), and transmutation. He's got a few other bit-spells that can blind people with light, cause projectiles to miss, etc., but the first three would be the most lethal, and he uses them the most often.

I feel like a Suimei VS Flagg thread would just end up being one of those inconclusive "who gets their hax off first" things. But qualitatively speaking (read: without going by A>B>C logic), the former is probably slightly more well-rounded.

 

[LordAizenSama]

To try close a few gaps on the list:

8-B speed equal can be Aureolus Izzard for being a RW

Strongest 9-C would be Thor (To Aru)

High 1-C would likely be Aiwass for supposedly being able to overpower all of True Gremlin at once, who when restricting themselves infinitely are >=Othinus at fullpower

 

[Schnee_One]

The Doctor Stomps Aiwass

Albeit, most of his power comes with prep

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Pretty sure the entire race of Downstreamers soccerkicks both of those two.

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh yeah, that too

 

[DMB_1]

Who is the strongest High 2-A? N.E.O. or Lucemon?

 

[Schnee_One]

Zeed

 

[DMB_1]

Zeed

The shouldn't he be the strongest High 2-A? because the thread for now still says Lucemon.

 

[Schnee_One]

Because no one updated the OP

 

[RKGenki]

About 5-B I agree with Homu for Kriemhild Gretchen for both equalized and unequalized, neither BB (BB vs KG) nor Amakasu Masahiko can win due to the absurd regen and she will eventually become strong enough to stomp them both

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

1. A 5-B characters is not 5-B when it becomes 2-A

2. I still don't understand the reason as to why that thread was locked, even though base Kriemhild has nothing.

3. She doesn't need to die. She can simply be thrown into a dumpster somwhere in the Moon Cell and left to rot. That's a good way of winning as well.

 

[PaChi2]

Darth Nihilus for strongest High 6-A.

 

[PaChi2]

Zeed

No.

True SGDLs > Zeed.

 

[Kepekley23]

Kratos resurrects. GG.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Darth Nihilus gets blitzed by anything that's MFTL or above. Aka, Terrarian again or Dark Schneider.

 

[DMB_1]

And a lot of High 6-As cannot step on a lego.

 

[PaChi2]

Darth Nihilus gets blitzed by anything that's MFTL or above. Aka, Terrarian again or Dark Schneider.

Speed equal?

Darsh isnt MFTL+ in his High 6-A keys.

And he mostly wins by standing there, my dude.