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The Stardust Crusader vs Son Goku (3-0-0)
- Thread starter Baken384
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Alright sure I can agree with the speed part.
But while yes SP can grab the power pole he can't do anything if goku extends it, or swings it while extended nor can he do anything about a kamehameha, also "punch it aside" lol SP doesn't have the AP.
Knowing jotaro's starting moves, SP wil try to parry the pole just to get stabbed and killed.
Fair but he definitely punches more. Though I didn't say he doesn't grab, I meant that he starts with punching in character not grabbing.
azontr
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Wait who said this lol.
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To be fair, invisible ki blasts do exist.
G̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶.̶
G̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶.̶
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Goku literally can't interact with SP here, how does he stab it
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Stab jotaro with the nyobo, not sp. SP can't stop it unless he grabs it but it happening if goku extends it.
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He gets a *****, a voodoo doll, and then creates a ritual!
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TRUE, AND THEY'RE ALSO MADE OF KI SO THEY'RE INVISIBLE
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I'm pretty sure SP has the reactions to move Jotaro out of the way if he notices it extending, also Goku kinda shouts out when he extends it so that helps him here too
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Wait... wtf? Star platinum is like MFTL combat speed right? Wtf can Goku even do if SP can just move jotaro... my whole argument was that jotaro's combat speed is slow so he won't be able to dodge the power pole. The only way Goku could possibly win is if jotaro tries to parry an attack and dies, if he dodges then goku loses and time stop gg.
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TS is restricted here though, and yeah I agree this is a stomp since speed unequalized means Goku can't use any AOE without getting reacted to.
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Time stop can't be restricted, it's an ability that jotaro has. Unless jotaro literally jobs and tanks every attack like that nincompoop Alien X, he won't lose.
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There's literally a key without it
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First key has Star Platinum: The World tho lol
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Actually shouldn't you be allowed to restrict TS from High 8-C Jotaro? Hypothetically he can get extremely angry to the point of reaching the tier before getting TS.
Also modern Sonic has Hyper Sonic even though he's never used it, its just hypothetically possible so it should be fine for Jotaro.
Nullflowerblush
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"For the Kamehameha, I thought I’d see if I could express “ki” energy, which can’t be seen with the naked eye, in a boys’ magazine sort of way."
"As opposed to the other techniques here, which can bee seen in the shape of energy bullets, this category of technique cannot be directly seen by the naked eye. Things like the Kikoho and shockwaves are techniques included in this category."
"Techniques that are plain but effective aren’t suited for manga. Stuff like strangleholds and locking techniques are troublesome to draw and hard to make very flashy. Even the Kamehameha is a technique that expels “ki”, which by nature is invisible, but I was able to make it flashy by hitting upon the idea of portraying it as something that could be seen with the naked eye. With that pose too, I tried out a lot of different ones. What’s more, I had to think up special characteristics for each character’s techniques, but I ran out of patterns really fast, so it was tough (laughs)."
"As opposed to the other techniques here, which can bee seen in the shape of energy bullets, this category of technique cannot be directly seen by the naked eye. Things like the Kikoho and shockwaves are techniques included in this category."
"Techniques that are plain but effective aren’t suited for manga. Stuff like strangleholds and locking techniques are troublesome to draw and hard to make very flashy. Even the Kamehameha is a technique that expels “ki”, which by nature is invisible, but I was able to make it flashy by hitting upon the idea of portraying it as something that could be seen with the naked eye. With that pose too, I tried out a lot of different ones. What’s more, I had to think up special characteristics for each character’s techniques, but I ran out of patterns really fast, so it was tough (laughs)."
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In the bottom paragraph he literally says its able to be seen by people, he's talking about the concept of ki in real life not DB.
Also all of this is debunked by Hercule and Jimmy Firecracker being able to see ki in the cell saga without being ki users whatsover.
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Fighters can't see the invisible techniques either.
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He wouldn't.
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Stomp thread.
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Or
he only has to go in front of it, he could literally use a finger
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He’d probably be able to tell that Jotaro isn’t normal at least, due to sensing his stand/life energy aura
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Goku literally can't sense here, as far as he can tell he's just dressed really weird with his hands in his pockets
AceOfSpaces3709
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From what I’ve counted, seven people have voted for Jotaro (StekFence, TaunVictor, Myself, DaReaperMan, Brak, Nierre and Arceus0x)
