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The Spectre's 1-A Feat

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No this isnt an upgrade thread for the "Normal Spectre", I think the Spectre could have another key for his Unbound state (Unbound, not hostless like the one from DoV)

First according to The Spectre's page:

The Hal Jordan Spectre merging with the Void in a J.M. DeMatteis story is considered as an outlier, as the Spectre has never portrayed as 1-A on any other occasion, and as such it cannot be used to upgrade the character.

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I really dont think this is accurate, this isnt normal Spectre so it wouldnt be an outlier

This is the Spectre who has transcended the limited view of himself. Beyond the constraint of individual identity, beyond that is he's a spirit connected to the Logoz. He became one with the Void

So what's this "Unbound Spectre"

It's been explained that the Spectre can be much more and that the Spectre has always been limited by its "concious limitation". Parallax sending him into the Void caused him to overcome the constraint of individual identity revealing his true nature as a spirit connected to the Logoz that is merged with the Oversoul itself

"And, in believing, you have freed me from the tyranny of mans projection"

"This is your true self?"


"For a moment, at least---your belief has pierced the veil of the Wrath---and revealed the Logoz that lies beneath!"

The Presence: Indeed, your power omnipotent was so great, so-all-encompassing, that its fullest potential was impossible to exploit

"Hal Jordan is only a part of you now. An identity you wore for one lifetime out of millions. A necessary part but only one aspect of the Whole Being. It is time for you to truly discover who you really are. Not just a man, not just a ghost. You are one of his chose messengers. The Living Spirit of Redemtion"

"You cling to the limited concepts of who you are"

"Abin Sur told me that my thinking was too circumscibed: Limiting the power of the Spectre"

"I really have to thank you Parallax---for sending me into the place the Vod. To a place that exists beyond the threshold---of our concius limitations. Because by becoming one with The Void. I was able to atleast begin to do what my freind Abin Sur suggested: transcend my limited view of myself. Break the constraints of individual identity".

So it wouldnt be an outlier, as this isnt normal Spectre. This only happens once the host of the Spectre "pierced through the veil of the Wrath and reveal the Logoz beneath" it also wouldnt mean that Hal Jordan Spectre is 1-A normally since as said above, he can only enter this state of conciousness for a moment.

tl;dr

  • Another key for the Unbound Spectre (merge with the Logoz and beyond the constraint of individual identity, concius limitations etc)
 
Yeah, Michael was the one who sealed the Primal Spectre-Force into a human host, the 2nd time he fought Kali (Who is Michael) and then their 3rd encounter was at the gates of Heaven.
 
I don't know if it wasn't obvious I was joking or if you're trying to troll me back.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Didn't Unbound Spectre also fight Michael even if ultimately defeated? He also merged with the Source.
Yeah, the Spectre merged with the Source but Corrigans mind wasnt able to handle it because its like a human seeing reality from the PoV of God
 
This wont scale to anyone (Maybe aside from the angel twins and the Presence), not even to the Spectre's normal self. He'll have another key with "The Logoz" or "Unbound"
 
@Matthew

... I cannot kudo anything more than I have done here. Seriously though, It's likely because Marvel when describing 1-A's can be... a bit of a pain as they are either usually vague, or require a lot of digging to fully uncover. Plus, Marvel only has 1 1-A, so consistency can be a problem too, and most people are hesitant to upgrade them to 1-A.... DC has so many 1-A examples that honestly it's not that big of a stretch for nearly any God-Tier to be upgraded given the proper explanation , reasoning , and consistency .
 
I suppose that the unbound Spectre could be placed as 1-A by scaling from Michael and the DeMatteis story.
 
I will unlock the page. Tell me here when you are done.
 
Okay. Should we close this thread then?
 
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