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The sans vs The jevil
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he could be just be telporting you around the corridor and not be moving
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For the second point ig that makes sense. Doesn't disprove the first point because he's not teleporting you, he's moving you with telekinesis
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The second one cabe be like the infinit corridors in Minecraft maps, that just teleport you in a place that don't seens to chance when teleported, sans teleportatione never followed a "transition rule"
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That doesn't make sense. He's never shown to create an infinite corridor, him being capable of spam teleporting himself makes way more sense. He probably just threw frisk down the hall, which makes more sense than an infinite corridor because it does have an end, as frisk hits a wall
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I didn't say was a infinit corridor, i said It work like the minecraft infinity corridors that just teleport you back whem you get at onde point, this would also make sense in this fight beacuse the corridor that the battle tales place isn't this long
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it doesnt show you that you've teleported back, in fact there isnt a single place where you could be teleported back without seeing a jump. You are also viewing this from the view of a small soul, so the hall seems bigger than it actually is. There is way too much evidence for sans to be able to spam self teleport, and if he can spam teleport frisk, then why wouldn't he be able to spam teleport himself? My vote remains on sans
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Ok, but as I said, it dosn't meter, isn't like he would only dodge with teleport
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Nah I find it more likely that he would dodge with a mix of teleport and physical dodging, but its still important as he may spam teleport to confuse jevil. And also BFR may be a win here, as we know sans can teleport a long distance but we've only seen jevil teleport a few feet or so
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considering the chaotic nature of the Jevil's attacks, sana trying to fuse it with teleport would probably be worse for him.
I don't think nether would BFR even if bloodlusted
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…isn’t there a moment in one of the routes where you talk to sans, the screen goes black, and when it lights up he’s gone?
The exact same effect he uses in his battles?
Why are you guys arguing about the corridor fight when we get to watch him teleport in the game?
The exact same effect he uses in his battles?
Why are you guys arguing about the corridor fight when we get to watch him teleport in the game?
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The teleportation isn't a problem and we aren't talking about that, we até talking if he can spam it
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Then i don’t understand the issue.
Because it really looks like you’re discussing him being able to dodge via Teleporting.
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No no, this was alread discussed, and we got tô te point that "he can but will not only dodge like that" the discussion esse more of a little of Salt on both sides, it was a useless discussion
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Oh.
Easy solution.
Remember at the end of the genocide route, where he uses the Nothing attack?
If you ram yourself into the box, he teleports you to the middle. If you keep this up, he never gets tired, and will continuously spam it to restrain you. Rather, you also have to do nothing, so he falls asleep.
If his teleporting himself is comparable to being able to teleport someone else (which it should be, there’s no reason to assume otherwise), then he will be able to spam it just as much.
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Still a useless discussion, sinse que agree that he wouldn't only use it to dodge
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what part of my statement says that I agreed that it was useless
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I never said it was useless, i said that dabate was, and I never said tou have said anything about It, I was talking about horrible and charmander
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He could just teleport hum self to a atack if he spans teleport
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We already discussed this. He's smart enough to run into an attack, and he is capable of seeing any attacks jevil sends at him
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Brb im gonna look in the undertale files for info on sans karma
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OK
Kinda, jevil has multiple atacks that comes from multiple directions at the same time, but it's fine do hélice otherwise, rhe point is more sans being tired
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Couldnt find what I was looking for
Considering even at his most tired, he was still capable of dodging mid sleep, I'd say he's got a while before he becomes truly exhausted enough to get hit
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Danmaku would tire him a lot faster than in normal fights tanks to the necessit to dodge being a lot higher
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Fair point. Do we have any way to tell how durable the gaster blasters are?
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Like they have to be durable enough to shoot the lasers, idk how to calc that though
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No, but he woldn't use that as shields, the maximus that we can do ise comparing them to his bones that shouldn't be
able to block thanks to AP diference
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Somethings attack has nothing to due with its defense. Look at mettaton neo for example
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Sinse they also don't have a dura feat, the best we can do is compare them to their ap (altrough we also could compare them tô sans dura, but this is the worst case cenerio to Sans)
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I still vote for inconclusive, btw.
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sans' dura is human level which puts him even with kris (he has 1 defense but frisk has 0 defense at the start of the game), and therefore he can use his bones to block
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... No, It don't work like that my boy... No, a 10-B dura can't survive a 9-B AP
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when I said human level I meant in relation to frisk (who is 9-B dura), sorry
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Still isn't how it works... First of all status aren't Cannon, Second, if they were you would need to compare Defense + HP, not only Defense
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Anyway, can people normally teleport out of telekinesis or no
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I'll drop this argument for now until I have more evidence if thats ok with you
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Depends of the telekinesis, seeing that sans one is gravity change based and kinda of a status effect it shouldn't be able, but isn't like sans can hold his oponent in place using it
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Actually you gave me an idea. Considering that sans' telekinesis is gravity based, wouldnt all of jevils danmaku just fly to where he wants jevil to be? That leaves jevil incapable of attacking sans
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