The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Eseseso]

Btw I have asked for the Dweller in Darkness's profile to be deleted.

While there are many outdated Marvel profiles, Dweller in Darkness is one of the most outdated and also has a few extra problems:

1. According to the Marvel wiki, he only has 19 appearances. Compare this to Nightmare, who has 170 (plus, Nightmare is a way more iconic villain and was even the first villain in a Doctor Strange comic [Strange Tales (1951) #110]).

2. His AP justification says this:

(Destroyed the M'Kraan Crystal and ended a universe as result, as well as being heavily implied to be superior to an alternate reality Phoenix Force)

Asides from there being no scans, the Marvel wiki says this:

• Regarding the statement "[the Dweller] was here in the last universe,"[7] this is based on the Dweller-in-Darkness from Adventures of the X-Men #12 where he existed in the universe before this one and shattered the M'kraan Crystal, which brought about the end of the entire Sixth Cosmos. However, the end of the Sixth Cosmos has been retconned many times, bringing the canonicity of that Dweller into question.

They even have that Dweller under a different version outside of Earth 616.

Thus, his profile should be axed.

Yes, Nightmare's profile is admittedly almost as bad, but I'm actually working on revising Nightmare's profile, courtesy of my magic revisions and my "Extra Stuff" sandbox, the latter of which will give him stuff like HDE, Abstract Existence Type 1 (seriously, he has 4 justifications for it that I found), Astral Form Physiology, Acausality 4, etc.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not mind if we delete that page, but all of the links to it from our other regular wiki pages also need to be removed in conjunction.

 

[Yuhady123]

agree with this

 

[Eseseso]

I do not mind if we delete that page, but all of the links to it from our other regular wiki pages also need to be removed in conjunction.

The only people whose profiles are linked to him are Nightmare (whose AP justifications I'm planning on changing anyways because his current ones suck), and Clea who has enough other Low 1-A feats.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Nightmare (whose AP justifications I'm planning on changing anyways because his current ones suck)

That's putting it lightly, lmao. Nightmare's High 1-B justification links to a literal Bitcoin spreadsheet imgur.

 

[Eseseso]

That's putting it lightly, lmao. Nightmare's High 1-B justification links to a literal Bitcoin spreadsheet imgur.

So that's what it was...

Also, him sleep-haxxing Eternity isn't even an AP feat.

 

[Excellence616]

Btw I have asked for the Dweller in Darkness's profile to be deleted.

While there are many outdated Marvel profiles, Dweller in Darkness is one of the most outdated and also has a few extra problems:

1. According to the Marvel wiki, he only has 19 appearances. Compare this to Nightmare, who has 170 (plus, Nightmare is a way more iconic villain and was even the first villain in a Doctor Strange comic [Strange Tales (1951) #110]).

2. His AP justification says this:

(Destroyed the M'Kraan Crystal and ended a universe as result, as well as being heavily implied to be superior to an alternate reality Phoenix Force)

Asides from there being no scans, the Marvel wiki says this:

• Regarding the statement "[the Dweller] was here in the last universe,"[7] this is based on the Dweller-in-Darkness from Adventures of the X-Men #12 where he existed in the universe before this one and shattered the M'kraan Crystal, which brought about the end of the entire Sixth Cosmos. However, the end of the Sixth Cosmos has been retconned many times, bringing the canonicity of that Dweller into question.

They even have that Dweller under a different version outside of Earth 616.

Thus, his profile should be axed.

Yes, Nightmare's profile is admittedly almost as bad, but I'm actually working on revising Nightmare's profile, courtesy of my magic revisions and my "Extra Stuff" sandbox, the latter of which will give him stuff like HDE, Abstract Existence Type 1 (seriously, he has 4 justifications for it that I found), Astral Form Physiology, Acausality 4, etc.

is any character using Dweller in Darkness for scaling?

 

[Eseseso]

is any character using Dweller in Darkness for scaling?

Clea only has it for one supporting feat, while Nightmare has it since he has no other actual scaling feats on his profile, something which I will change.

 

[Excellence616]

Clea only has it for one supporting feat, while Nightmare has it since he has no other actual scaling feats on his profile, something which I will change.

Then i agree with deleting Dweller's profile

 

[Excellence616]

I do not mind if we delete that page, but all of the links to it from our other regular wiki pages also need to be removed in conjunction.

Excellence616/Dweller In Darkness

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[Antvasima]

I handled it, but these pages need to be updated:

Pages that link to "Dweller In Darkness" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Eseseso]

I handled it, but these pages need to be updated:

Pages that link to "Dweller In Darkness" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

vsbattles.fandom.com

If you could please unlock those pages, I could work on them later today.

Though like I said, Nightmare's AP section will continue to be terrible until I (hopefully) get it some better justifications.

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked those pages. Tell me here when you are done please.

 

[Eseseso]

I have unlocked those pages. Tell me here when you are done please.

Done.

 

[Antvasima]

I have locked those two pages again.

 

[Tomfer]

Any thoughts of this blog? Does anyone agree on the first sentence?

(A few abilities are already on their profiles)

MK Magic Project

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[Tomfer]

One thing I've overlooked, In Strange Academy: Moon Knight, Moon Knight was stabbed and left there to bleed out for "half a day" with a stab wound that was showing his heart. He even joked about it. Immortality type 2?

 

[BLS]

For anyone that cares, X-Men 97 is pretty good and i'd recommend it, the only thing i personally really dislike is Magneto/Rogue. FFS no sane person likes this terrible ship, stop making it a thing X-Men writers

 

[Antvasima]

I saw a very positive YouTube review of the new X-Men '97 series.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Btw, I am nearing completion of my marvel magic sandbox, only about 150 issues in 2 series left (plus some minor stuff mostly concerning Scarlet Witch's chaos magic and the Life Force), then I'll reorganize it into tabbers and clean up the formatting and whatnot.

Before I release that though, I will release a CRT based on this sandbox which focuses on character-specific stuff:

Marvel Magic Extra Stuff

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It's also not done yet, but feel free to check it out.

(And just ignore the Enchantimatics stuff if you want, I'm still debating if and how it can be included in the Marvel Magic sandbox)

• Mindless Ones:
  • (Possibly) Up to Low 1-A at their peak in the Dark Dimension: Dormammu was unable to kill them, only keep them at bay with his barrier, and upon becoming exhausted after his fight with Doctor Strange was unable to repel them until Strange granted him some of his own power. This is still noted even in modern comics, where Strange says that they would've overpowered and "taken" Dormammu had Strange not saved him, which even Dormammu doesn't deny. Strange stated that Umar even in the Dark Dimension would be unable to repel them on her own.

I think "at their peak" in the Dark Dimension should be "as a race/group/army." I don't think they need a possibly rating either, since the Mindless Ones being a destructive threat to Dormammu/Umar/Clea and the dark dimension as a whole is super consistent.

 

[Excellence616]

Any thoughts of this blog? Does anyone agree on the first sentence?

(A few abilities are already on their profiles)

MK Magic Project

vsbattles.fandom.com

Nice

I think "at their peak" in the Dark Dimension should be "as a race/group/army." I don't think they need a possibly rating either, since the Mindless Ones being a destructive threat to Dormammu/Umar/Clea and the dark dimension as a whole is super consistent.

make sense

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Small Umar (Marvel) Revision

Umar currently has an infinite speed rating as such is considered standard for all our Skyfather and above profiles: Speed: Infinite (Comparable to Dormammu) | Immeasurable, possibly Omnipresent after absorbing Multiversal Eternity’s essence However, it wouldn't hurt to attach a unique feat to...

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[Tomfer]

I just saw some of the new X-men animated series and it's crazy how X-men writers CANNOT write a normal and good romance, no matter the media, be comics or shows. No wonder people make fun of Scott and Wolverine, lmao.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Hey... if I wanted to make a God of Stories Loki profile/key, does anyone know where I could start? My usual method of making character profiles is going to their major, minor, and handbook appearances listed on the Marvel wiki then reading through all the issues, but I just found out that Loki has three different Marvel wiki profiles for Earh-616. Which profile contains all the content regarding his God of Stories incarnation?

 

[Tomfer]

Which profile contains all the content regarding his God of Stories incarnation?

Pretty sure is this one.

Loki Laufeyson (Ikol) (Earth-616)

261 appearance(s) of Loki Laufeyson (Ikol) (Earth-616) 1 appearance(s) in handbook(s) of Loki Laufeyson (Ikol) (Earth-616) 44 minor appearance(s) of Loki Laufeyson (Ikol) (Earth-616) 66 mention(s) of Loki Laufeyson (Ikol) (Earth-616) 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Loki Laufeyson (Ikol)...

marvel.fandom.com

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Hey... if I wanted to make a God of Stories Loki profile/key, does anyone know where I could start? My usual method of making character profiles is going to their major, minor, and handbook appearances listed on the Marvel wiki then reading through all the issues, but I just found out that Loki has three different Marvel wiki profiles for Earh-616. Which profile contains all the content regarding his God of Stories incarnation?

it first starts at loki agent of asgard comic run

 

[Excellence616]

More profiles for Marvel Comics

This is the last one. Then I'll take a break. Here's the blog I make for Aspirants and Godkiller Armour.

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[Lacku]

new realistic depiction of a panic attack in animation just dropped

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What the hell?

 

[Excellence616]

Would this help upgrade Herald Characters?

A enslaved Galactus of a possible future states that Kala's New Power will destroy the cosmos, and all things of the past, present and future. (Realm of Kings- Son of Hulk #2)

This was later found to be the alternative future where Kala's "Hulk" form was activated- which hadn't occurred before due to it requiring not rage, but love, in order to work. Kala was later forced to kill the only person he loved in order to stop this future from happening and eliminating the universe.
(Realm of Kings- Son of Hulk #2)

Hiro-Kala can creates a field of Old Power powerful enough to cover the distance between two universes, blocking the Enigma Force from being used. (Incredible Hulks- Enigma Force #1)

It is explained that Hiro-Kala will eventually use Galactus as a living weapon to destroy the universe in a alternative timeline. (Realm of Kings- Son of Hulk #4)

It was explained that the Old Power is essentially the counterbalance to the Power Cosmic, and it can effect the universe. (Son of Hulk #15)

Thor spins Mjolnir and matches Bill spinning Stormbreaker on Earth, creating a vortex to overpower the cosmic storms surrounding Asgard, sending its army back home (Mighty Thor #359)

Thor spins Mjolnir to conquer the cosmic storms between Asgard and Midgard under his own power (Mighty Thor #373)

And when you double the striking power of Mjolnir? You get a shockwave of enchanted energy that reverberates throughout "the length and breadth of the entire cosmos" and "simultaneously across all planes of reality!" (Thor #439)

• Destroys the Illuminatrix, and undoes its influence across the universe (Silver Surfer Vol 8 3)
• Unaffected from paying the magical price of Doctor Strange transmuting a hell dimension into a meadow, which would result in an agonizing death for a normal person - Doctor Strange #384

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Making someone live out ten years of torture in their mind is crazy

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Making someone live out ten years of torture in their mind is crazy

This bitch literally hit him with Tsukuyomi! XD

 

[Tomfer]

Unexpected team-ups that work surprisingly well.

 

[Excellence616]

Would this help upgrade Herald Characters?

.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. You likely have to start a content revision thread.

 

[Lacku]

Got issue 3 updates done on my USM sandbox and made a draft for Bullseye's profile

Hickman Ultimate Spider-Man profile blog

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[Tomfer]

Got issue 3 updates done on my USM sandbox and made a draft for Bullseye's profile

Hickman Ultimate Spider-Man profile blog

vsbattles.fandom.com

Bullseye's design is really cool, damn.

 

[Tomfer]

Any particular reason of why Shang-Chi and Iron Fist aren't considered Genius in combat like Daredevil is?

 

[Excellence616]

I do not know. You likely have to start a content revision thread.

I would but I posted it here for discussion (Like which feat is useable, what tier, ...) and then whatever we conclude would be use for creating a CRT.