The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Excellence616]

What do we currently rate them as? 2-A?

yeah. Varies, up to 2-A

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so would something like this be appropriate for Spectrum then?

"Possibly Multiverse level+ (Almost comparable to an alternate version of the Post-Retcon Beyonder, and created destabilising rifts across the multiverse)"

Or should the text be modified?

 

[Excellence616]

Okay, so would something like this be appropriate for Spectrum then?

"Possibly Multiverse level+ (Almost comparable to an alternate version of the Post-Retcon Beyonder, and created destabilising rifts across the multiverse)"

Or should the text be modified?

Looks good to me

 

[ByAsura]

Someone would probably have to compile all the feats and statements into Imgur albums given how much context is necessary.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, agreed. Would you or somebody else here be willing to handle it please?

 

[ByAsura]

I'll ask the all purpose thread people when I have the time, because it should be organised in a certain way.

I don't have an account.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Jane Foster match

 

[Antvasima]

I'll ask the all purpose thread people when I have the time, because it should be organised in a certain way.

I don't have an account.

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[ByAsura]

By the way, can we get rid of this calculation?

Not only do we accept it as being a different realm, but the arguments presented are horribly unconvincing and out of context. This, for example, was the angels exiting the Tenth Realm into Asgard.

And this doesn't even say they're physically connected. It just shows that there's distances between realms/dimensions, which has been a thing in Marvel since the 60s, not to mention the fact that there's voids between dimensions/pocket dimensions.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Not only do we accept it as being a different realm

If that's the case, then this should go too.

Marvel Comics - Thor creates universal storm

vsbattles.fandom.com

I also want to discuss this calc here. It's being used for this feat. How the **** did I approve this, I don't know. Math is fine obviously, but ****, "heavens" are not the whole ******* universe what the **** were they smoking.

 

[Gasper]

If that's the case, then this should go too.

Marvel Comics - Thor creates universal storm

vsbattles.fandom.com

I also want to discuss this calc here. It's being used for this feat. How the **** did I approve this, I don't know. Math is fine obviously, but ****, "heavens" are not the whole ******* universe what the **** were they smoking.

Aren't heavens considered infinite?

 

[M3X_2.0]

What? That's just flowery language. You can read the scan.

 

[Gasper]

What? That's just flowery language. You can read the scan.

I thought the heavens here are meant literally. Like from greek pantheon.

 

[Excellence616]

Aren't heavens considered infinite?

What? That's just flowery language. You can read the scan.

I thought the heavens here are meant literally. Like from greek pantheon.

We already consider Marvel regular universe (like our observable universe) as infinite while the Nine Realms as infinite.

 

[Gasper]

We already consider Marvel regular universe (like our observable universe) as infinite while the Nine Realms as infinite.

So both infinite?

 

[Excellence616]

So both infinite?

Yes

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

We already consider Marvel regular universe (like our observable universe) as infinite

I thought it was just treated as at least 1 trillion lightyears

 

[Excellence616]

I thought it was just treated as at least 1 trillion lightyears

The entirety of the universe is infinite while the part where the occupied space is finite. The rest are void.

 

[ByAsura]

The thing is, even if it was acceptable, the scan says 'the heavens seem to shudder'.

If that's the case, then this should go too.

Marvel Comics - Thor creates universal storm

vsbattles.fandom.com

This one might be a bit more acceptable given the distance between universes.

I'll look into it.

We already consider Marvel regular universe (like our observable universe) as infinite while the Nine Realms as infinite.

It depends on the portrayal. In some, empty space is infinite, but others portray it as folded in on itself.

For example, the Kyln is at the border where the edge of space-time is separated from the Negative Zone.

 

[Excellence616]

Marvel Infinite Universe

 

[ByAsura]

I know there's instances where it's infinite, I'm just saying there's ones where it's not.

 

[ByAsura]

In addition, it seems like Iceman recently defeated Terrax when the latter had powered up with a small fragment of The Black Winter. Should we give Iceman a new key with "At least 3-C to 2-C" statistics, or consider it an outlier?

There's actually a thread on this.

 

[M3X_2.0]

We already consider Marvel regular universe (like our observable universe) as infinite while the Nine Realms as infinite.

In this case, "heaven" isn't referring to the universe, I don't know why people thought it was.

 

[Antvasima]

By the way, can we get rid of this calculation?

Not only do we accept it as being a different realm, but the arguments presented are horribly unconvincing and out of context. This, for example, was the angels exiting the Tenth Realm into Asgard.

And this doesn't even say they're physically connected. It just shows that there's distances between realms/dimensions, which has been a thing in Marvel since the 60s, not to mention the fact that there's voids between dimensions/pocket dimensions.

I personally think that you make sense here.

 

[Excellence616]

Gwenpool Strike Back #3 & 4


Hulk punches Gwen into the Gutter Space.

What ability is this?

 

[ByAsura]

BFR

 

[Excellence616]

BFR

Okay, Thanks but @Oliver_de_jesus said it was a plot hax?

 

[ByAsura]

Doom could get in and out very easily without plot hax, so I don't think so.

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Doom could get in and out very easily without plot hax

I have a different proposition

 

[Excellence616]

Doom could get in and out very easily without plot hax, so I don't think so.

So it is BFR?

I have a different proposition

Which is?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes.

I assume it's a joke (or maybe serious, idk) that Doom should have plox hax.

 

[Excellence616]

Yes.

I assume it's a joke (or maybe serious, idk) that Doom should have plox hax.

Oh

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Should Mangog have Empowerment, since it is said on numerous occasions that hatred makes him grow stronger?

 

[Excellence616]

Should Mangog have Empowerment, since it is said on numerous occasions that hatred makes him grow stronger?

Yes

 

[Antvasima]

Should Mangog have Empowerment, since it is said on numerous occasions that hatred makes him grow stronger?

Yes, although Rage Power might fit better.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Yes, although Rage Power might fit better.

Could be both. Mangog says he feeds on hatred and it is pointed out on his profile that a lack of it causes him to shrink into nothingness, but he definitely should have Rage Power at the very least

 

[Antvasima]

Agreed.

 

[HigashikataJobin]

Hello again guys. I was thinking to create a page about Sise-Neg, who had just a very few appearences in comics. The point is: he's the responsable to create the Marvel's 616 continuity. Does this qualify him to have a profile?

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sise-Neg_(Earth-74113)

 

[Excellence616]

Hello again guys. I was thinking to create a page about Sise-Neg, who had just a very few appearences in comics. The point is: he's the responsable to create the Marvel's 616 continuity. Does this qualify him to have a profile?

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sise-Neg_(Earth-74113)

How many comic book appearances?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Hello again guys. I was thinking to create a page about Sise-Neg, who had just a very few appearences in comics. The point is: he's the responsable to create the Marvel's 616 continuity. Does this qualify him to have a profile?

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sise-Neg_(Earth-74113)

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