The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Yokoahh5743]

In Quasar, it's explained that, out of all the universal Abstracta (including Eternity, Oblivion, Infinity, etc), only Anomaly could survive if universal expansion was reversed until the universe became a single, anomalous point with no real dimensions.

Basically, being able to survive the end of the universe/multiverse is doable for certain Abstracts, especially under certain conditions.

She is an aspect of Oblivion whose purpose is to exist up until the last light of Eternity is snuffed out, and possibly even after, as well as a Multiversal Abstract, embodying the very concept of entropy across all existence and fated to be the last entity standing once it ends

 

[Eseseso]

Sorry, I'm busy with a few threads.

Whenever you get the chance, then.

Every except Efi is neutral on the crucial stuff (AE, NEP, Nonduality, HDE).

Ultima said he'd eventually respond but as we all know he's pretty busy rn.

 

[ByAsura]

She is an aspect of Oblivion whose purpose is to exist up until the last light of Eternity is snuffed out, and possibly even after, as well as a Multiversal Abstract, embodying the very concept of entropy across all existence and fated to be the last entity standing once it ends

Your scan doesn't work.

But it doesn't matter anyway. Being able to survive the death of Eternity doesn't make her more powerful than Eternity, as I've repeatedly explained.

Hell, Entropy in the Seventh Cosmos survived the death of the entire 7th Eternity at the hands of Genis-Vell/himself and became Eternity (with the help of an initial energy source from Vell's mook blaster) because he was all that was left. Yet Entropy was far less powerful than Eternity prior to all of that.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Your scan doesn't work.

But it doesn't matter anyway. Being able to survive the death of Eternity doesn't make her more powerful than Eternity, as I've repeatedly explained.

Hell, Entropy in the Seventh Cosmos survived the death of the entire 7th Eternity at the hands of Genis-Vell/himself and became Eternity (with the help of an initial energy source from Vell's mook blaster) because he was all that was left. Yet Entropy was far less powerful than Eternity prior to all of that.

Should her profile be like this?

The Griever at the End of All Things

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[Fastestthingalive50]

1: Kingpin's currect profile sucks ass.
2: He's too inconsistent to scale him properly due to being a universal street level villain, fighting people from 9-B up to High 8-C.

Wouldn’t the solution be making Matt High 8-C?

 

[Tomfer]

Wouldn’t the solution be making Matt High 8-C?

He's NOT on the same tier as Spider-man, bro. Trust me.

 

[Roirr]

Knull revision

Hello everyone, now that Black Winter's profile is done I can move for Knull Anyway I'm starting Abstract Existence Type 2 As far as we know, there are two concepts in the Marvel Universe: love and hate (two opposite concepts). One of them (love) is TOAA's and the other (hate) is TOBA's...

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[Fastestthingalive50]

He's NOT on the same tier as Spider-man, bro. Trust me.

But you can’t have Matt’s arch nemesis as over 100 times his strength.

 

[Tomfer]

But you can’t have Matt’s arch nemesis as over 100 times his strength.

1: Kingpin's current profile sucks and should not even be considered at the moment.

2: Matt's strength has been, somewhat, consistent 9-B, unlike Kingpin, who has fought pratically every single street level character from 9-B up to High 8-C.

3: Matt only got into High 8-C after getting enhanced by the Fist ceremony and even with that, he needed to punch Spider-man with all of his strength. (And even with that, Peter was only a little hurt and he wasn't even trying to fight Matt, just trying to talk)

So no, base Matt is not High 8-C.

 

[AcidSilver]

Didn't Griever basically one shot Molecule Man? That would put her way above Eternity.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Didn't Griever basically one shot Molecule Man? That would put her way above Eternity.

Not that MM decided during the end of the Secret Wars to have multiple clones/M-Bodies?

 

[Tomfer]

Just noticed that Champion is both retired and gone. Hope the dude is alright, he's chill.

 

[Eseseso]

Just noticed that Champion is both retired and gone. Hope the dude is alright, he's chill.

Same.

 

[Antvasima]

Didn't Griever basically one shot Molecule Man? That would put her way above Eternity.

Molecule Man is a glass cannon and was looking in another direction.

 

[Antvasima]

Just noticed that Champion is both retired and gone. Hope the dude is alright, he's chill.

Please explain.

 

[Excellence616]

Please explain.

He is hoping Marvelchamp is alright.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Me as well. But his ban was self-requested, so he can come back whenever he wishes by telling our staff members via the Community Central wiki.

 

[Tomfer]

Midnight Mission Additions

 

[Tomfer]

Does anyone know the AP value of characters who scale to Daredevil?

 

[Excellence616]

Ghost Rider (Marvel Comics) update/upgrade

According to Ghost Rider´s profile he is 2-C because he scales to World War Hulk at his full power: Low Multiverse level (Defeated the entirety of the Avengers in combat with ease. Doctor Strange believed an unrestricted Ghost Rider to be capable of defeating World War Hulk, and was terrified...

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[Excellence616]

Does anyone know the AP value of characters who scale to Daredevil?

9-B , 8-C, High 8-C

 

[Tomfer]

9-B

I saw this but that doesn't give Wall Level (+), which we currectly have.

 

[Excellence616]

I saw this but that doesn't give Wall Level (+), which we currectly have.

Daredevil survives an explosion 2.0

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Daredevil busts a wall

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Daredevil survives an explosion 3.0

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[Roirr]

Even though I opened CRT for Knull and Black Winter, there are still characters with old or terrible profiles (especially Nightmare). Does anyone know when Ultima will open the new title?

 

[Eseseso]

Even though I opened CRT for Knull and Black Winter, there are still characters with old or terrible profiles (especially Nightmare). Does anyone know when Ultima will open the new title?

Not for a long time, brother.

But my Marvel magic revisions (which are ongoing but since the sandbox's visual editor isn't working for some reason they're briefly on hold) will give much needed P&A revisions to old profiles such as Strange, Nightmare, Dormammu, Clea, etc.

But yeah, people like Mephisto will definitely be High 1-B.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Just realized this on Dormamu's page

Speed: Infinite (Scaling from Odin), Immeasurable in the Dark Dimension (Fought against Eternity) | Immeasurable, Omnipresent after absorbing Multiversal Eternity’s essence

Why is "Dark dimension" in bold?

 

[Tomfer]

The new Moon Knight just arrived.

 

[AcidSilver]

You've heard of the Thanoscopter but get ready for the Thanosmobile

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

You've heard of the Thanoscopter but get ready for the Thanosmobile

lmao

we really need a page for Thanoscopter

 

[Eseseso]

You've heard of the Thanoscopter but get ready for the Thanosmobile

Interesting, what issue is this from?

 

[ByAsura]

It's from issue 2 of the 2023 Thanos run.

 

[Eseseso]

It's from issue 2 of the 2023 Thanos run.

My thanks.

 

[Excellence616]

You've heard of the Thanoscopter but get ready for the Thanosmobile

Just read this today. This was the first time Thanos and Hulk had a bit of decent battle.

 

[Tomfer]

Vengeance of the Moon Knight Vol 2 Issue 1 has released a few days ago and Hunter's Moon was able to send two demons (Mr. Smile & Mr. Sulk) back to the Dungeon Dimension by praying to Khonshu.

This is limited BFR?

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Question, what makes Marvel's higher dimensions transfinitely larger? I've only seen one mention of them being infinitely larger and more dangerous.

Or is it granted qualitative superiority because the higher dimensions see the lower ones as small, like shadows or paintings in a cave?

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Question, what makes Marvel's higher dimensions transfinitely larger? I've only seen one mention of them being infinitely larger and more dangerous.

Or is it granted qualitative superiority because the higher dimensions see the lower ones as small, like shadows or paintings in a cave?

1. The examples provided in Ultima’s blog should be enough. Higher dimensions are stated to be infinitely larger on top of having something akin to an R>F difference over lower ones. Seeing as the cosmology is composited, we don’t need qualitative superiority for every little higher dimensional statement, just some general statements for higher dimensions being infinitely above lower ones in Marvel should suffice.

2. Qualitative superiority between higher dimensions stops mattering once you reach infinitely many dimensions, I believe.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

1. The examples provided in Ultima’s blog should be enough. Higher dimensions are stated to be infinitely larger on top of having something akin to an R>F difference over lower ones. Seeing as the cosmology is composited, we don’t need qualitative superiority for every little higher dimensional statement, just some general statements for higher dimensions being infinitely above lower ones in Marvel should suffice.

2. Qualitative superiority between higher dimensions stops mattering once you reach infinitely many dimensions, I believe.

So they equate an infinite superiority with a transfinite one?

And the transcendence R > F is not a Qualitative Superiority?

 

[Eseseso]

High 1-B Upgrade for Mephisto and Hell Lords within their own realms

Since Ultima's Part 3 revisions are probably never going to be finished, or at least not in the next year, I figured I might as well make a CRT to upgrade Mephisto and the other Hell Lords. (Credit to E2B for many of these scans.) Mephisto's realm infinitely transcends the Universe (Doctor...

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[Eseseso]

Question, what makes Marvel's higher dimensions transfinitely larger? I've only seen one mention of them being infinitely larger and more dangerous.

Or is it granted qualitative superiority because the higher dimensions see the lower ones as small, like shadows or paintings in a cave?

Asides from the above 2 statements:

1. Dormammu, a higher dimensional entity, views 4D space-time as "little" and "dirty".

2. 3D beings can only interact with a shadow of a 4D construct.

3. That higher-D being who views Spider-Man like a cave painting says time cannot contain him.

 

[Excellence616]

Thor Abstract Existence and Conceptual Manipulation

bro i didn't t paste this from the g1 blog Gods are simply concepts given shape. They are myths and stories given physical form through the belief of mankind. Nate Grey notes that Ares personifies war on every plane as an example, and Thor himself is an elemental archetype, embodying the storm...

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