The recent Undertale patch changed some characters' stats

[WarriorWare]

http://imgur.com/a/LFjJs

Since a lot of the stats on this site are based on in-game stats, this might be important.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

My gosh, this is, uh, something. Papyrus is no longer comparable to Undyne, and Asgore & Toriel gets nerfed.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

So what's Tsunderplane's current attack?

 

[Thebluedash]

Is Greater Dog actually stronger than Lesser Dog now? ovo

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Seems like this would mostly nerf things now.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Wow, regular Mettaton now has 30 attack.

 

[Thebluedash]

Greater Dog has 15 attack now. Finally stronger than Lesser Dog ovo, FINALLY THE NAMES ARE ACCURATE.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but Undyne has 50 attack, that's a looot, but now Undyne >> Everything I guess, we only needs Tsunderplane's stats now.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

So does anyone know Tsunderplane's attack stat, now? This is actually incredibly important to scaling.

 

[WarriorWare]

I just realized I said "undertale" twice lol

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

tfw Tsunderplane is the vital part of the verse's power.

 

[Thebluedash]

So does anyone know Tsunderplane's attack stat, now? This is actually incredibly important to scaling.

I don't see Tsunderplane in there, maybe his/her stats didn't change?

 

[The_Everlasting]

If Tsunderplane's stats haven't changed... it looks like Undertale is, in general, due for a bit of a boost.

Although, what are Asgore and Toriel rated as now?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

That would make no sense to have 8 attack Tsunderplane and everyone else being 02184124912 times higher, seems like that list didn't show everything, just some.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

That would make no sense to have 8 attack Tsunderplane and everyone else being 02184124912 times higher, seems like that list didn't show everything, just some.

I mean, Ice Cap and Snowdrake were only buffed slightly, and they were previously equal to Tsunderplane.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Right about now I'm just thinking about how we'd rate Temmie, as it now has no actual stats.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but still, seems like no one has 8 attack now, and the list only showed Snowdin's normal monsters (Except Temmie)

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Tem outta Tem/Unknown.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Temmie is Temmie Level.

 

[The_Everlasting]

So who here's gonna be playing the game to find out Tsunderplane's stats if it isn't listed there?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

After checking the Undertale wiki, it seems Snowdrake and others listed have been given their updated stats, whereas Tsunderplane is still listed at 8.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

That would mean insane upgrade to everyone, but let's wait until someone go plays the updated game.

 

[The_Everlasting]

What would the new tiers even be just judging from this?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I'll probably do so, later.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Everything is city probably, well, except Temmie and some other monsters I guess.

 

[The_Everlasting]

How exactly would that be when their stats are now several times that of Tsunderplane's?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Assuming, if this is the case, most things would be "At least City level, likely higher" or "likely much higher" for characters such as Undyne.

 

[Salavtore]

What about genocide stats?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Can't we directly Stat scale? Like Asgore being 10 times stronger (Due to having 80 attack to Tsunderplane's 8)

 

[The_Everlasting]

Well, stats aren't particularly linear, as is particularly evident with Undyne the Undying.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

True, but we still did Place Asgore as Mountain Level for Unknown reasons.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

True, but we still did Place Asgore as Mountain Level for Unknown reasons.

Due to being an absurdly great number stronger than a city level character, but stats still aren't linear, unfortunately. Makes things difficult.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Well "Absurdly" would be like just 10 times actually, but yeah

 

[Salavtore]

I'd think it would be fine to keep the tiers as they are still. (for now) unless you really think it shoudl all be revised.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

If Tsunderplane really is only 8 in attack, it should definitively be upgraded, otherwise I'd say we wait for confirmation on the stats (Has anybody the Update game?)

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Updated the game and replaying, now.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Thanks, I would have, but I suck and haven't actually brought the game.

 

[WarriorWare]

I reset Undertale so that my bro could play it. He hasn't fought Undyne yet and doesn't seem to be about to finish the game, even though he loves it. Maybe I should just reset again and tell him to get his own copy.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Thanks, I would have, but I suck and haven't actually brought the game.

Hey bro, you're not the only one.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

>Reseting the game after a Pacifist ending

You monster.