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The recent Undertale patch changed some characters' stats

Currently replaying the game and doing genocide so I can best gather all the new stats.

Just finished the Ruins. Here are the new stats.

Whimsun: Atk-5 Def-0

Moldsmal: Atk-6 Def-0

Napstablook: Atk-10 Def-10

Vegetoid: Atk-6 Def-6

Froggit: Atk-4 Def-5

Migosp: Atk-7 Def-5

Loox: Atk-6 Def-6

Toriel: Atk-80 Def-80

Biggest difference is Toriel's stats now being explicitly equal to Asgore's.
 
Currently doing Snowdin. Since most of the enemies there have already been posted, I'll post the ones that haven't.

Gyftrot: Atk-16 Def-8

Glyde: Atk-HIGH Def-HIGH

That's...it for Snowdin, I think.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Currently replaying the game and doing genocide so I can best gather all the new stats.
Just finished the Ruins. Here are the new stats.

Whimsun: Atk-5 Def-0

Moldsmal: Atk-6 Def-0

Napstablook: Atk-10 Def-10

Vegetoid: Atk-6 Def-6

Froggit: Atk-4 Def-5

Migosp: Atk-7 Def-5

Magic Trick Man: Atk-∞ Def ∞

Toriel: Atk-80 Def-80

Biggest difference is Toriel's stats now being explicitly equal to Asgore's.
WAIT A MINUTE I SEE SOMETHING IN THAT LIST! Magic Trick Man strikes again! :O
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Currently replaying the game and doing genocide so I can best gather all the new stats.
Just finished the Ruins. Here are the new stats.

Whimsun: Atk-5 Def-0

Moldsmal: Atk-6 Def-0

Napstablook: Atk-10 Def-10

Vegetoid: Atk-6 Def-6

Froggit: Atk-4 Def-5

Migosp: Atk-7 Def-5

Loox: Atk-6 Def-6

Toriel: Atk-80 Def-80

Biggest difference is Toriel's stats now being explicitly equal to Asgore's.
Toriel's stats always were 80/80 IIRC.

This is really odd. The stats don't seem to affect gameplay at all, so why would Toby do this? Does he know we were scaling Lesser Dog to Undyne or something?
 
WarriorWare said:
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Currently replaying the game and doing genocide so I can best gather all the new stats.
Just finished the Ruins. Here are the new stats.

Whimsun: Atk-5 Def-0

Moldsmal: Atk-6 Def-0

Napstablook: Atk-10 Def-10

Vegetoid: Atk-6 Def-6

Froggit: Atk-4 Def-5

Migosp: Atk-7 Def-5

Loox: Atk-6 Def-6

Toriel: Atk-80 Def-80

Biggest difference is Toriel's stats now being explicitly equal to Asgore's.
Toriel's stats always were 80/80 IIRC.
This is really odd. The stats don't seem to affect gameplay at all, so why would Toby do this? Does he know we were scaling Lesser Dog to Undyne or something?
I'd say that's a possibility, lol.
 
WarriorWare said:
Toriel's stats always were 80/80 IIRC.

This is really odd. The stats don't seem to affect gameplay at all, so why would Toby do this? Does he know we were scaling Lesser Dog to Undyne or something?
Nah, I got like 7 something when I checked her last. May have only been in pacifist, though.
 
Odd, I thought for sure I remembered CHECKing her in Pacifist and seeing 80/80 stats.
 
Huh. I must be thinking of her internal stats, then.

By the way, UtU is still 99/99, but her description feels slightly different.

"Heroine reformed by her own DETERMINATION to save Earth."

It might have always been this, but I can't remember.
 
That was always her description. Maybe it was phrased a little differently, but the intent of the text is the same.
 
The Everlasting said:
That was always her description. Maybe it was phrased a little differently, but the intent of the text is the same.
Knows this, yet haven't played the game. Everlasting how do you do it?
 
Yea thats lovely.

I doubt they changed the big bosses stats however.

(i bet the stat changes are for the possible hardmode to finally come)
 
@Sal

Yeah, I checked on the Undertale wiki, Mettaton NEO has the same stats as he did before the patch.
 
The Everlasting said:
@Sal
Yeah, I checked on the Undertale wiki, Mettaton NEO has the same stats as he did before the patch.
it could be that no one has made it through the new genocide yet to check
 
Also, for anyone who is interested...

Aaron: Atk-24 Def-12

Woshua: Atk-18 Def-5

Shyren: Atk-19 Def-0

Moldbygg: Atk-18 Def-18

Vulkin: Atk-25 Def-0

Astigmatism: Atk-32 Def-26

Whimsalot: Atk-34 Def-12

Final Froggit: Atk-30 Def-24

Knight Knight: Atk-36 Def-36

Madjick: Atk-29 Def-24

We all know what this means...

At least City level Whimsalot confirmed.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Also, for anyone who is interested...
Azathoth: Atk-0 Def-0

Woshua: Atk-18 Def-5

Shyren: Atk-19 Def-0

Moldbygg: Atk-18 Def-18

Vulkin: Atk-25 Def-0

Astigmatism: Atk-32 Def-26

Whimsalot: Atk-34 Def-12

Final Froggit: Atk-30 Def-24

Knight Knight: Atk-36 Def-36

Madjick: Atk-29 Def-24

We all know what this means...

At least City level Whimsalot confirmed.
Wow that Azathoth monster is really weak.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Also, for anyone who is interested...
Aaron: Atk-24 Def-12

Woshua: Atk-18 Def-5

Shyren: Atk-19 Def-0

Moldbygg: Atk-18 Def-18

Vulkin: Atk-25 Def-0

Astigmatism: Atk-32 Def-26

Whimsalot: Atk-34 Def-12

Final Froggit: Atk-30 Def-24

Knight Knight: Atk-36 Def-36

Madjick: Atk-29 Def-24

Rwby verse: Atk-cheese Def-Below negative numbers

We all know what this means...

At least City level Whimsalot confirmed.
 
Salavtore said:
in all seriousness though, are the number differences large?
well it now means that Undyne is twice as powerful as tsundere plane which would place her far closer to asgore.
 
Squid peanut said:
well it now means that Undyne is twice as powerful as tsundere plane which would place her far closer to asgore.
Twice as powerful stat-wise. Stats don't appear to be linear, otherwise everyone would be universe level.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Twice as powerful stat-wise. Stats don't appear to be linear, otherwise everyone would be universe level.
right, wait if their not linear why do the stats stay in nuclear level up to asgore with 80 being mountain then jump to universal with UtU
 
Squid peanut said:
right, wait if their not linear why do the stats stay in nuclear level up to asgore with 80 being mountain then jump to universal with UtU
Because Toby likely didn't care about that. That, or Asgore's way above what we're giving him credit for, but that's what the "at least" is for.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Because Toby likely didn't care about that. That, or Asgore's way above what we're giving him credit for, but that's what the "at least" is for.
yeah ok, I guess it's like the souls, we know the rate increases but we don't have enough reference points to see by what
 
Especially since 4Atk enemies such as Froggit can harm beginning of game Frisk with minimal Determination (so like...at least Wall level, likely higher), whereas it only takes 25 for something like Tsunderplane to be City level.
 
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