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My bro has every intention of going the pacifist route anyway.Saikou The Lewd King said:
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The recent Undertale patch changed some characters' stats
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Currently replaying the game and doing genocide so I can best gather all the new stats.
Just finished the Ruins. Here are the new stats.
Whimsun: Atk-5 Def-0
Moldsmal: Atk-6 Def-0
Napstablook: Atk-10 Def-10
Vegetoid: Atk-6 Def-6
Froggit: Atk-4 Def-5
Migosp: Atk-7 Def-5
Loox: Atk-6 Def-6
Toriel: Atk-80 Def-80
Biggest difference is Toriel's stats now being explicitly equal to Asgore's.
Just finished the Ruins. Here are the new stats.
Whimsun: Atk-5 Def-0
Moldsmal: Atk-6 Def-0
Napstablook: Atk-10 Def-10
Vegetoid: Atk-6 Def-6
Froggit: Atk-4 Def-5
Migosp: Atk-7 Def-5
Loox: Atk-6 Def-6
Toriel: Atk-80 Def-80
Biggest difference is Toriel's stats now being explicitly equal to Asgore's.
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My god Froggit, how do you managed to be lower tham Whimsun.
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Currently doing Snowdin. Since most of the enemies there have already been posted, I'll post the ones that haven't.
Gyftrot: Atk-16 Def-8
Glyde: Atk-HIGH Def-HIGH
That's...it for Snowdin, I think.
Gyftrot: Atk-16 Def-8
Glyde: Atk-HIGH Def-HIGH
That's...it for Snowdin, I think.
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Glyde you damn thing.
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WAIT A MINUTE I SEE SOMETHING IN THAT LIST! Magic Trick Man strikes again! :OAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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Toriel's stats always were 80/80 IIRC.Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
This is really odd. The stats don't seem to affect gameplay at all, so why would Toby do this? Does he know we were scaling Lesser Dog to Undyne or something?
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Nah, I got like 7 something when I checked her last. May have only been in pacifist, though.WarriorWare said:
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Odd, I thought for sure I remembered CHECKing her in Pacifist and seeing 80/80 stats.
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Huh. I must be thinking of her internal stats, then.
By the way, UtU is still 99/99, but her description feels slightly different.
"Heroine reformed by her own DETERMINATION to save Earth."
It might have always been this, but I can't remember.
By the way, UtU is still 99/99, but her description feels slightly different.
"Heroine reformed by her own DETERMINATION to save Earth."
It might have always been this, but I can't remember.
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That was always her description. Maybe it was phrased a little differently, but the intent of the text is the same.
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Knows this, yet haven't played the game. Everlasting how do you do it?The Everlasting said:
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By the way, Tsunderplane's stats are 25 Attack/26 Defense
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So Tsunderplane is > Papyrus, but <<<<<< Undyne?
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Man, the things this does to the Undertale tiers.
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this is insane! the possibilities of this game have grown and anything could have been added!
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Also the fact that Sans' workshop has become an even clearer allusion to Gaster.
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I will get around to making the changes soon, btw.
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@Sal
Yeah, I checked on the Undertale wiki, Mettaton NEO has the same stats as he did before the patch.
Yeah, I checked on the Undertale wiki, Mettaton NEO has the same stats as he did before the patch.
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it could be that no one has made it through the new genocide yet to checkThe Everlasting said:
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Working on it, as we speak. lolSquid peanut said:
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Well, Papyrus has his post-patch Genocide stats.
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but that's doesn't say for mettaton neos.
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I can now confirm NEO is still 90/9.Squid peanut said:
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Also, for anyone who is interested...
Aaron: Atk-24 Def-12
Woshua: Atk-18 Def-5
Shyren: Atk-19 Def-0
Moldbygg: Atk-18 Def-18
Vulkin: Atk-25 Def-0
Astigmatism: Atk-32 Def-26
Whimsalot: Atk-34 Def-12
Final Froggit: Atk-30 Def-24
Knight Knight: Atk-36 Def-36
Madjick: Atk-29 Def-24
We all know what this means...
At least City level Whimsalot confirmed.
Aaron: Atk-24 Def-12
Woshua: Atk-18 Def-5
Shyren: Atk-19 Def-0
Moldbygg: Atk-18 Def-18
Vulkin: Atk-25 Def-0
Astigmatism: Atk-32 Def-26
Whimsalot: Atk-34 Def-12
Final Froggit: Atk-30 Def-24
Knight Knight: Atk-36 Def-36
Madjick: Atk-29 Def-24
We all know what this means...
At least City level Whimsalot confirmed.
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Wow that Azathoth monster is really weak.Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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well it now means that Undyne is twice as powerful as tsundere plane which would place her far closer to asgore.Salavtore said:
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Twice as powerful stat-wise. Stats don't appear to be linear, otherwise everyone would be universe level.Squid peanut said:
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right, wait if their not linear why do the stats stay in nuclear level up to asgore with 80 being mountain then jump to universal with UtUAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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Because Toby likely didn't care about that. That, or Asgore's way above what we're giving him credit for, but that's what the "at least" is for.Squid peanut said:
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yeah ok, I guess it's like the souls, we know the rate increases but we don't have enough reference points to see by whatAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
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Especially since 4Atk enemies such as Froggit can harm beginning of game Frisk with minimal Determination (so like...at least Wall level, likely higher), whereas it only takes 25 for something like Tsunderplane to be City level.
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