The real cal howard vs. ShadowWarrior1999 - Kirby vs. Archie Sonic

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Except for slapping him in the face and Sonic dying from that. Literal best case scenario is that Sonic has to die again because Kirby kills him again when he passes out, and Sonic can't pull himself through that ring.

Again, he can't kill him.

That would only KO.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

And again, I call bs on Sonic being able to survive being beat to death when he was nearly beat to death on multiple occasions.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

What reasons? The ultimate NLF that Kirby will just miss every single attack he throws when even Eggman has hit Sonic before?

Kirby wins by screaming NLF and punching Sonic in the face. Omega does the same, tbh.

He'll just make him job like he did to a 2-A Super Scourge.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Prove Scourge wasn't just a victim of his own hubris. Prove that it was directly a result of the fate hax.

Heck, even if I were to believe that, Scourge is arrogant. The fate had something to play off of. What's Kirby going to do, revert to a lesser 4-A state? There's no reasonable way for fate to give Sonic a victory here.

 

[MYHERO]

@Cal Have a Snickers. You aren't you when you're hungry.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

There's being arrogant, and then there's conveniently forgetting that the Anarchy Beryls leave the user drained. Scourge willingly de-transformed and thus screwed himself over.

What would Kirby do? Subconsciously not taking the fight as seriously as he should is my guess.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sonic goaded him, baiting his arrogance. Kirby's not arrogant. Some of his biggest opponents are creatures most people wouldn't take seriously, like Dedede or Marx. Sonic can't call Kirby out or play weak.

 

[MYHERO]

Sadly I think Cal has a point here.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

That still won't neg the fate hax as Kirby lacks any kind of acausality to get around it but eh, I'll come back to this after getting some sleep.

 

[RotofBots]

Voting Kirby for Cal's reasons

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Alright, I've mellowed out. And to prove it, I'll end this post with an "ovo" ovo.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Kirby FRA

Does that mean that Link vs Sonic is still fair despite the fate hax

 

[Idol_of_Legend_and_Elimination]

Bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

Tbh this should be closed.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

The way this is going, I don't know if I even want to comment...

 

[GyroNutz]

Kirby FRA, if this isn't a stomp

 

[Moritzva]

Yea, Cal summed it up for me. Fate isn't just going to lolnope a win instantly. Kirby FRA.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Okay, I worked up some nerve.

If this isn't a stomp, Kirby FRA.

 

[Kirbyelmejor]

Kirby fra

 

[ShakeResounding]

Still don't think this should be added.

You either use SBA or Bloodlust, which leads to Kirby to one-shotting and Sonic coming back to pass out. Fate Manip doesn't matter if Sonic doesn't have a way to bypass Low-Godly.

Or you give Sonic the Sword of Acorns, which would result in 2-A Power Null lolnoping and draining Kirby as soon as they get close enough to each other for it to happen.

 

[Idol_of_Legend_and_Elimination]

Actually I looked at it now, does Sonic have like anyway to kill Kirby at all?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

The Sword of Acorns. Otherwise no.

But Kirby can't kill Sonic either.

 

[Genericstickman]

Wasn't Sonic both physically and mentally exhausted during Endgame? It would explain why he passed out when he came back

 

[ShakeResounding]

@Generic Yeah, I think so, but a lot of people would probably think it's fallicious to assume Sonic can come back with no hindrance... Or something. Idk.

Maybe make a CRT of you want?

 

[The_Smashor]

 

[ShakeResounding]

Tbh this just seems like a bad matchup.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Tbh this just seems like a bad matchup.

The more I think about it, the more I agree.

 

[AlexZiggy]

So are we giving Sonic the SoA? Like others have said he stands a good chance of winning if he has

 

[Genericstickman]

If he doesn't have it then this match is a stomp

 

[AlexZiggy]

So is giving Sonic a 2-A Powernull sword. And to my knowledge Kirby has no way of negging it. Either way seems like a stomp

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

So either Sonic drains via Sword of Acorns or Kirby just taps him.

 

[Genericstickman]

Doesn't Kirby start with lol empathic manipulation

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

2-A mindhax resistance says lol no to Friend Hearts.

 

[The_Smashor]

Start? Literally nothing suggests Kirby leads with empathetic manipulation IC.

 

[Idol_of_Legend_and_Elimination]

@Cal

Feel free to close this, if it's a stomp