The Player (Minecraft) vs Frisk

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

The battle of two characters that interact with monsters, have resurrection, type 4 immortality, and likely more similarities.

The Player (Minecraft) vs Frisk

Rules:
-Both are 8-B
-Speed is equalized
-Steve will have access to all of his equipment
-Battle takes place in a Minecraft village
-Both are in character


The power of enchantments, mining, and crafting:

The power of determination: 7

The power of friendship (Both start a Minecraft survival world/Incon)

 

[Comiphorous]

Would Steve be able to be reasoned with? if not, its incon.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Would Steve be able to be reasoned with? if not, its incon.

Possibly but then again Steve kinda does whatever he wants. So he’d probably want to see what Frisk would drop in terms of items and exp.

 

[Comiphorous]

Possibly but then again Steve kinda does whatever he wants. So he’d probably want to see what Frisk would drop in terms of items and exp.

Then resurrect, attempt to reason with some more, rinse and repeat until frisk can reason with steve to go **** themselves.

im going with frisk

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Then resurrect, attempt to reason with some more, rinse and repeat until frisk can reason with steve to go **** themselves.

im going with frisk

Vote counted

 

[Psychomaster35]

Frisk FRA

Furthermore, if Steve dies, he gets BFR'd out of the arena with no equipment upon respawning, reverting him to his 9-A base

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Counted

 

[Ailamiona]

Frisk FRA

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Frisk FRA

Counted!

 

[Comiphorous]

Seems like steve's wincons are murdering frisk until they give up, which would take a long time regardless

Frisk FRA

Furthermore, if Steve dies, he gets BFR'd out of the arena with no equipment upon respawning, reverting him to his 9-A base

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Seems like steve's wincons are murdering frisk until they give up, which would take a long time regardless

Perhaps I should make him respawn within the village via a bed? Or would that not change anything?

 

[Comiphorous]

Perhaps I should make him respawn within the village via a bed? Or would that not change anything?

Frisk wouldn't be going for killing steve regardless, so its not like it'd change anything

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Frisk FRA

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Frisk FRA

Counted

 

[Peppersalt43]

Human Child FRA

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Human Child FRA

Counted

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

bump

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[TauanVictor]

Frisk FRA.

 

[Oleggator]

Frisk FRA so far

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Frisk FRA.

Frisk FRA so far

Counted and that’s grace!

 

[Bernkastelll]

What are Steve wincons?

 

[Oleggator]

What are Steve wincons?

Killing Frisk until Frisk will give up since both are in character.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

there is no canon situation in which Frisk gave up though
even if there is some technicality preventing the match from being a stomp this is still ridiculously one sided to where it shouldn't be a match idea

 

[Oleggator]

I mean, now that I think about it, can Frisk make Steve stop fighting?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Killing Frisk until Frisk will give up since both are in character.

but.....Frisk in character never stops fighting

 

[Comiphorous]

but.....Frisk in character never stops fighting

"Weaknesses: While extremely difficult, sufficient failure can make a user of Determination give up"

its unlikely but can happen. (and, its not like steve has to listen to frisk, its entirely possibly they'd just beat the **** out of frisk for all of time until their determination gives up)

 

[Bernkastelll]

"Weaknesses: While extremely difficult, sufficient failure can make a user of Determination give up"

it never happend to frisk tho

 

[Oleggator]

it never happend to frisk tho

I mean, I guess the point is that I as a player can go.

"**** it!" And not playing the game or replaying to the pacifists route (that one time where I lost to Sans so much that I went like this).

 

[Bernkastelll]

"**** it!" And not playing the game or replaying to the pacifists route (that one time where I lost to Sans so much that I went like this).

eh, not sure if we can apply it to games? I mean, sure, we can give up IRL, but it doesnt means that the character gives up, Frisk can dies infinitely against Sans in canon, and will never stop trying to fight him

 

[ZillertheBucko]

it's a fake weakness to make stomps be non stomps

 

[GyroNutz]

Furthermore, if Steve dies, he gets BFR'd out of the arena with no equipment upon respawning, reverting him to his 9-A base

Pretty sure that we assume Steve respawns in range of wherever the fight's happening?

Anyway I also don't think Steve really has any wincons here. Killing Frisk just makes them respawn, any of Steve's potential incap methods don't work due to LOADing, and this Frisk is at their peak determination, so discouraging them is out of the question.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Pretty sure that we assume Steve respawns in range of wherever the fight's happening?

Steve respawn randomly in the map, so, it doesnt makes sense to him respawn in the fight

 

[ZillertheBucko]

this is a stomp match

 

[GyroNutz]

Steve respawn randomly in the map, so, it doesnt makes sense to him respawn in the fight

He respawns wherever he spawned in originally, unless he uses a bed to overwrite that. Why would we assume that's anywhere but where he started?

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Would making Steve’s respawn point be near where the battle takes place help any or no? Also if this is a stomp match I’m sorry lol.

 

[GyroNutz]

Would making Steve’s respawn point be near where the battle takes place help any or no? Also if this is a stomp match I’m sorry lol.

It should be wherever he spawned in by default, but it doesn't really help either way since Steve has no way to defeat Frisk.