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You can start him as 8-C, I'm pretty sure
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THE Pizza Tower Thread (Fecal Funny edition)
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The_Pink_God
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The moment he loses his shit
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Can I say in the OP that he’s already pissed off if I want to use his 8-C key immediately
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Yes.
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Btw what do yall think of Peppino causing a solar eclipse?
Should he also get Power Null for removing the effects of Pizzahead's Reality Warping?
Should he also get Power Null for removing the effects of Pizzahead's Reality Warping?
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1st, that's a Lunar Eclipse, not a solar one
2nd, yeah but only his Enraged self would get that
2nd, yeah but only his Enraged self would get that
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Yeah, lunar eclipse, true.
Would that grant 5-C Environment Destruction due to moving the moon, or?
Would that grant 5-C Environment Destruction due to moving the moon, or?
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I wouldn't give him power nullification for that. I'd say that Pizzahead got scared and removed his Reality Warping. It also could be that he decided not to sustain it, assuming it's an active ability. As for the solar eclipse, I'm not sure what to say about that. Perhaps someone else could weigh in on that.
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The lowest interpretation would say that Peppino moved the moon so that the earth ends up between it and the sun, which I think would be 5-C
It only disappearing when Peppino summons the storm and not when he screams, plus Pizzahead not really taking Enraged Peppino that seriously in the first place, makes me think it was due to Peppino's rage, but yours is also a valid interpretation
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Is this good?
I'm very new to the game and had been doing this one for hours and was tired of it ( the boss not the game ofc ) already, but I think it's solid personally.
Also 2:08 almost made me shit my self
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I thought I saw one before, but I haven't seen anyone in this thread mention one in a while. We probably can make a verse page now since we have characters, accepted calcs, and an idea for what the power of the verse is. Even if we were to include normal enemies as character pages, they would also be around 9-A due to hurting Peppino.
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What was it a CRT for? I know of a few things people wanted CRTs for, but I don't know what yours is. The ones I remember are
- Upgrading Peppino's resistance to Ice Manipulation
- Changing scaling of bosses
- Removing Additional Limbs from Peppino's profile
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Boosting Peppino's AP. He can destroy 4 marble blocks in one grab dash/throw and can destroy 2 metal blocks with a mach run 2 and high body slam so i got him upgraded based on that
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Yeah, I think scaling the bosses up to just 9-A+ makes sense if we need to scale them to Peppino's minimum durability as Ant suggested to me and Shmooply.
Speaking of, are we ever going to bring The Vigilante and/or Pillar John out of purgatory? Do we need a proper CRT thread before doing so? It'd be weird to not give the former a page at least, given he is among the bosses.
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I don't fully understand it still, but I guess that works.
Oh yeah, I forgot we don't have pages for those two. We could just add my Hammerspace thing now. My argument for that is since the items he uses appear and disappear during the fight, he is using a storage for them. Plus, Hammerspace appears often in cartoony verses. I would also say we should change his Lifting Strength as that would remove the justification of "hold all his weapons at once".
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Given in base Peppino's AP and Durability are Small Building Level+ after newly accepted calcs, and Ant suggesting to readjust stats on the boss profiles, I think it makes sense for us to be scaling up the bosses to 9-A+ in doing so.
Makes sense to include Hammerspace for The Vigilante too. Other characters seem to use Hammerspace as well, like The Noise with his equipment (especially considering the Noise Crusher). Lifting Strength for the Vigilante should also probably be changed.
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Well, since The Vigilante is just a sandbox right now, we just need the sandbox to be changed. But The Noise would need a CRT thread as we are adding an ability to an ability profile. The other bosses are probably going to need CRT threads anyways for the change in scaling as well.
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I have once again noticed something: Pillar John's tier still needs to be changed. It is marked as "likely High 8-C" due to him beating Pizzahead. However, Pizzahead's durability is Building level, which would only qualify John for an 8-C tiering. We can't really scale him higher due to one-shotting, as we don't actually know how much damage that did. The conservative estimate is what calc group people prefer, so I think he should be 8-C.
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That Peppino artwork is so me
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the best part of the match was neither opponent dies and both sides agree to each others demands. Win-win situation
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According to the wiki, forcing the game to give you the Knight transformation lets you kill Grandpa ( the yellow pepper in Pig City ), would we give him way higher AP with that due to his regular hits doing nothing to him?
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Just curious shmooply, which boss was the hardest for you to fight against? Or were they all pretty easy?
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Using cheats to do things you cannot do normally isn't something we should factor in. That is an unused mechanic, so we should not use it for calculations. I am of the opinion we should make calcs only based on normal gameplay.
DaMonkeMan
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Fair point tbh
The_Pink_God
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TBH i always found weird the reason why Peppino has higher Dura considering he's Rocket Peppino when he crashes into the cheese blocks
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Do yall think we could get good results from Peppino destroying the floor in the Fake Peppino fight?
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Peppino isn't the one destroying the floor. The floor collapses after a certain amount of damage is done to Fake Peppino, not from anything Peppino directly does. Summary: no.
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Isn't Peppino's last attack on Fake Peppinp the reason it blew up? I don't see why it'd randomly just do that lol
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He's riding a rocket, and he's the one who is colliding with the asteroids. If a force is pushing an object into something and the thing being pushed doesn't break, it means it is enduring that force.
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That's correlation, not causation. Peppino's previous attacks to Fake Peppino didn't do anything to the floor, so it's unreasonable to assume he is the direct cause. It's more likely Fake Peppino is the cause, as it happens when his health is depleted and he transforms right after, but I don't know if we can assign that as a feat to Fake Peppino either.
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Peppino's finishing blow has enough AoE that it kills everyone Pizzaface summons during his fight, so that's a possible explanation
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Peppino didn't use that kind of attack on Fake Peppino, he just used his normal attack.
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I guess we could put it in Fake Peppino's AP section but with an added "However, it's not entirely certain if Fake Peppino causes this"
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I think Fake Peppino is the 2nd hardest boss so far, Noise being the first ( though I eventually P ranked him ).
That's just my personal experience, I haven't fought Pizzaface yet.
That's just my personal experience, I haven't fought Pizzaface yet.
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I think The Vigilante is the hardest due to changing your moveset. I might be thinking of P ranks though.
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