The Outerversal unofficial tiering list

[PsychoWarper]

I know its just I came back and read everything and basically saw you change you mind.

 

[DMB_1]

What is really the point of this though?

It's just silly to stack up to an imaginary "scaling chain" of 1-As and 0s when it contradicts everything that those tiers are supposed to be and the fact that 1-A matches are banned.

This "tier list" is just how many infinities you can stack up on a ladder and give the reader a headache. You cannot just measure 1-As by numerical/mathematical values, even if they are infinite, and use this series of transcendences on to of each other. That's the entire point of the Tier: outside of dimensional boundaries, it's impossible to measure how much you need to be "above baseline", and even what you need to be to be considered "baseline". Saying that "A transcends B just like a High 1-B transcends an 11-C" is still unquantifiable because you are using a dimensional comparison for a Non-Dimensional scenario.

It's like people just hear about Masadaverse's Taikyoku system, or Umineko's transcendence system and try to apply it to every possible verse with 1-As and 0s in it. It's basically the same as trying to measure characters from other verses with Dragon Ball power levels, if not worse.

You are also assuming that every single verse has the same interpretation of Outerversal characters, so a tier 0, a being who is described to be beyond any 1-A in his verse, beyond causality, space, time, knowledge, perception, mathematics etcetera, would still be below one of these guys because"muh scaling chain". 1-A systems from different verses aren't necessarily comparable to each other.

 

[DrReynolds]

Being above the concept of dimensions turn one into a 1-A. Creating a multiverse in that void turns said character above the baseline, creating countless multiverses makes one above even the above concept.
The Star Maker is really low in the list: that thing created cosmoses that one could see them as "multiverses" but actually there are an infinite amount of those cosmoses and in that amount you can count cosmoses with no time, literally and where there is more that two temporal dimensions; with no spatial dimensions; with no fisicial nature; cosmoses that had omnipresent beings; and dimensionless cosmoses. The thing is that said cosmoses didn't stop existing: they keep being what they were... even the cosmos that came after the one that was created was more complex.

In the end The Maker made a comos that had all the features of the created cosmoses and much more. Then it fused with said cosmos.

When something creates a dimensionless thing, in this case a cosmos, could be considered a layer of the outerverse. An infinite amount of those made an infinite layered outerverse.

Surely this is wrong. Creating/destroying multiverses is a 2-C (more than 1 4D universe) to High 1-B (infinite universes of infinite dimensions) feat. 1-A characters are all above that because they are dimensionless. It's like saying that all characters who can destroy planets are baseline planet-level and then we rank them by the number of islands and countries they can create.

I feel that people posting in this thread don't understand what outerversal and dimensionless is supposed to be. The outerverse has layers in the Masadaverse and Umineko, so in each of them the 1-A characters can be ranked, but that's just a limitation imposed by their continuities because their creators treat dimensionless space as if it had dimensions. In other continuities (e.g. DC and Marvel) all dimensionless space is just treated as a void.

 

[Hykuu]

I really don't think you got the point of the star maker

Firstly, all mathematics, philosophies and laws are all created by it, INCLUDING the concept of spatial dimensions, universes which are completely dimensionless and devoid of all concepts. It was capable of creating universes which were incomprehensible to beings who already were capable of incomprehensible 1-A structures.

It did all this, with a mere atom of it's infinite potential, all these universes were revealed to be a part of a complex infinite hierarchy. Then the ultimate universe, which encompasses and transcends all this.

This is easily, 1-A. Creating 1-A structures with this ease is definitenly 1-A.

 

[Antvasima]

DMB 1 is probably correct.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

The Overvoid is a tier 0 -_-

 

[Elizhaa]

Tier 0 is now Outerversal, the highest

 

[John985]

well this 3 are also Tier 0


Akuto Sai, The Law of Identity, Featherine Augustus Aurora.

 

[Elizhaa]

well this 3 are also Tier 0

Akuto Sai, The Law of Identity, Featherine Augustus Aurora.

Yeah

 

[DarkLK]

Akuto should not be tier 0. He's only a small part of the Law of Identity Keena. The difference between them is like the difference between the whole complex World and one of its inhabitants.

 

[John985]

Well everyone who got High 1-A key was upgraded to Tier 0.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This list is frankly pure nonsense.

 

[DarkLK]

Well everyone who got High 1-A key was upgraded to Tier 0.

He has never been high 1-A. Only "possibly". And lately, I think this is a misinterpretation. The whole story is an attempt by God to get mutual love from its/her own creations, but for this they must stop being the "philosophical zombies" from the divine point of view. Mao is a system through which souls can unite with their Creator to go beyond the limits of stories. But his own soul is also only one of all who received salvation.

 

[DarkLK]

This list is frankly pure nonsense.

People love to talk about something with which they are not even familiar.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I think its pointless to discussing further from this thread, so better close it?

 

[John985]

He has never been high 1-A. Only "possibly". And lately, I think this is a misinterpretation. The whole story is an attempt by God to get mutual love from its/her own creations, but for this they must stop being the "philosophical zombies" from the divine point of view. Mao is a system through which souls can unite with their Creator to go beyond the limits of stories. But his own soul is also only one of all who received salvation.

Well I stopped reading when it reach volume 11, so I got no idea how he got so powerfull.

 

[Antvasima]

I think its pointless to discussing further from this thread, so better close it?

Okay.