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The Legend of Zelda: A General Awakening

I swear I'm the only guy ever who hates Breath of the WIld. I don't know what sorts of inhuman mental gymnastics my mind is supposed to perform to recieve it as a good game, because apparently my brain is as unathletic as the rest of my body and I only thought it was okay at best. I bought the game the first day it came out for the full $60, super excited to play the game. I played the game nonstop for like 3 days and then it kinda just completely fell off for me and got completely boring after the second Divine Beast.


Then I developed a severe Undertale addiction, to which I haven't since recovered.
 
As a person who 100% BOTW in both normal and master mode - I can solemnly say that I was massviely disappointed by the game.


There are things in Breath of the Wild that have a level of polish unseen before, a painstakingly amount of attention to detail was applied. But there are other aspects of them which are so obtuse that I find it hard to believe both parts of the game were developed by the same people.

Every single thing Breath of the Wild got right, they got five things wrong. And in the end, Breath of the Wild has become my least favorite 3-D Zelda. And that's sad.
 
To be honest, Skyward Sword deserved a sequel much more than Breath of the Wild did. They did not need to tack on an extra story to the end of the already tacked on stories of Breath of the Wild, where you just beat Ganon and you're done. Skyward Sword actually had some of the best characters seen in a Zelda game, and at the end you're actually curious as to what happens next.
 
My opinion of BOTW is that what they needed to do right, they made it borderline perfect, like the exploration or the open world.

But other stuff seemed kinda half baked, like game difficulty or main dungeons.

I would say that what BOTW nailed, it nailed it so much it's enough to massively overshadow its problems, but that's just my opinion.
 
Breath of the Wild creates a beautiful sense of exploration, for most of the game, there is always some thing in the distance that catches your eye and diverts you from your current objective.

The problem is that it's almost never rewarding. The most interesting things are abondoned ruins that speak of a history that is far more intriguing than the current world. Not to mention, with the Spirit Medellion system - the reward for 99% of sidequests went from something rewarding like a Piece of Heart, to something superfluous like money or a random material.


To be honest, I could go on for ******* days about how BOTW disappointed me, and of its faults, so I'll stop right here.
 
I mean BOTW story was never truly finished there was still so many unanswered questions, hell BOTW was a Zelda story through and through but the second one is obviously going to be about Link and Ganon.

Plus at this point its obvious that Link is related to the Zonai since the first hero in the Botw was a red head Zonai that weilded the master swotd.

And let's not forget the wind fish dead skeleton in the game.... And the one of Levias too, there's dead deities scattered around hyrule.

Honestly BOTW deserves a sequel and skyward Sword deserves some kind of continuation (it's my favorite game) Botw was great but it's obvious what type of game it was.


It was a Beta a test too see if they can do a game like that Botw 2 will technically be the final product of that new Zelda formula.
 
I fail to understand why would Link composite need to be removed and why they are saying Godzilla composite system so does Link's.

Despite Link literally being the same person, every time heck Demise literally said that link will forever be reincarnated.

That statement clearly solidify that All Link are the same Link's they just live in different Era's and thus grow up in different environment.

I mean the master sword is literally bind to Link's soul if you are not Link it will basically kill you.
 
OH I SWEAR TO ******* GOD.

If those dante stan fuckwits get link's composite page removed because they couldn't handle not getting their ******* Low 1-C Wanked-to-hell Demon Hunter we're gonna have some god damn problems
 
I honestly couldn't give a shit about composite Link getting tossed lmao. I believe that thread would also get the current Zelda profile yeeted as that's also a composite.
 
Just a question regarding a ability for Crenando. In Ganons tower (Wind Waker) you enter doors to boss rooms where ypu refight past bosses to open the way to Ganons tower. The rooms are identical recreations of the previous areas you fight the bosses (The Gohma fight linked above has even has Valoo sitting above the area for you to swing on his tail even though Valoo is on the surface world while this battle happens). And the areas are in the same gray scale as Hyrule Castle is while it's frozen in time, which when combined with the fact that Link is forced to be limited to whatever weapons he had during the inital battles initally led me to believe that this is some form of time manipulation (Don't think it's time stop since everything in these rooms still move whether it's lava or beams of light). Could be another form of reality warping, maybe also power null due to removal of equipment, thoughts?
 
The game says that Ganon was the one who recreated the entire thing Ganondorf obviously created the place via magic and put a bunch of fail safes.

Its agreed that Ganondorf has incredible magical powers, with how the Tower is "built" with some places having its own kind of ecosystem this is clearly reality manip and also power null since he an stop link from using items.

Also ToP might have help him do all these things.
 
Yup but this feat was created by a Toon Link w ƒÿÅ, meaning that Triforce peice users and full triforce users are getting an insane buff.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
>Low 2-C triforce pieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym-1Yrx-OvI&t=14s
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Yup we are gathering more info because the feat was done by a triforceless Toon Link.

Gonna throw you guys a bone.

Me:" The World of the Ocean King is the world where most of the events of The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass take place. It is the home of the Ocean King, his spirits, and the inhabitants of the islands. Despite being another world, it is very similar to the Great Sea: both have a vast expanse of ocean and share an analogous climate. The two worlds are so alike that throughout most of Link and Tetra's adventures there, they are unaware that they are in another world.

Also grand ocean king is said to be a deity like wind fish"

DDM:"Oh yeah, Time does work differently in World of the Ocean King than Hyrule/Great Sea does."

DDM:"Plus, wasn't that one place in Oracle of Ages of all things called a "Parallel Universe"?"

Me:"Yup, Is it note worthy to do something about it?"

DDM:"Yeah... It was implied that it was created by the Golden Goddesses. So it's just a back up 2-C feat."

Me:"By Defeating Bellum, the latter of who defeated the Ocean king in battle who can manipulate the Realm of the Ocean King."

This feat is actually a real legit one.
 
I already checked that one when HE came out, and manipulating all of time =/= destroying time, which is what you need to have Low 2-C
 
Does the Ocean King actually manipulate the realm as opposed to just ruling over it? Been a while since I played Phantom Hourglass. Also very iffy of the scaling since this is an incarnation of Link without even a single piece of the Triforce, performing something on this level without any piece of the magical triangles doesn't exactly sound consistent.

Have no problem with scaling this to Bellum, the Ocean King, and obviously full Triforce users if legit (Like Majora these guys benefit from being in a parallel universe and having no comparisons to be made to anyone or anything else making it less likely to be accepted as an outlier). If we decide to also treat the Phantom Sword as well above the non tempered with Master Sword then I see it scaling to PH Link as well, but if we don't treat it as >> Master Sword then the feat becomes alot more iffy.
 
Link was able to keep up thanks to the phantom sword (its basically the master sword of that universe) and the fact that he was powered by 1 other diety Ciela (the fairies she's separated ) and is considered the patreon of time and courage in the world of the Ocean King, the clearly explains how he was able to win and his past experience does help a lot, and yes ocean King had power over all of his domain just like wind fish.

And the final fight was affecting the entirety of the realm of the Ocean King.

This feat his basically Termina 2.0 or wind fish 2.0.

If you are all sceptical about single peice triforce that's okay but the full triforce is definitely above that.

Plus like I said this realm is the Oceans king domain he his stated to have absolut control over it just like wind fish and his world.

Link and Tetra didn't even notice any of the difference between the 2 world's before it was pointed out to them and they were extremely shocked by it.
 
Listen up, young 'un. Listen good. The Ocean King is defender of all creation. MERCAY ISLAND RESIDENT clearly stated in game that he was the defender of all creation in this world that he made


While in his Oshus guise, the Ocean King's powers are rather limited compared to his true form due to losing most of his Life Force. Despite this, he can still use some of his powers, such as instantly sending people into different places, reuniting Ciela with her other half and fusing the Phantom Hourglass with the Phantom Sword itself. This coupled with his wisdom, still makes him a powerful being.

In his true form, the Ocean King has a great amount of Life Force within him which allows him to use mystical powers. These powers include granting wishes for a person, sending people and items to different worlds, making an avatar of himself as an old man, sensing the evil acts of Bellum, creating his own world and surviving the curse which Bellum places on him. All of these are literally proved in in-game dialog, cutscenes and showed feats.


Ocean King is clearly a powerful diety.


Breath of the Wild retroactively suggests the Wind Fish, Levias, and Ocean King are all whale-like beings called Leviathans with the Ocean King being a Leviathan native to the World of the Ocean King.
 
TriforcePower1 said:
I already checked that one when HE came out, and manipulating all of time =/= destroying time, which is what you need to have Low 2-C
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Low 2-C | Universe level+: Characters who are capable of significantly affecting, creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely sized 3-dimensional expanse.


Ocean king quite literally did that tho and the game keeps reapeting before Bellum came he manipulated/created and defended everything within his domain.

Many years ago, Bellum appeared and began to consume people's Life Force, an energy which every living thing in the world possesses. Bellum attacked Oshus, who naturally fought back. However, his attacks were futile, and he was subsequently locked away at the bottom of the Temple of the Ocean King, his Life Force at the mercy of his nemesis. Bellum then formulated the Sands of Hours, a crystallized version of Oshus' Life Force, to create monsters that attempted to seal away the Fairies of Power, Wisdom, and Courage.

despite Bellum being a formidable opponent (and his name means also War in Latin) was utterly curb stomp by the ocean king heck ocean king was so strong Bellum had to use whatever life force he got from the ocean king and than turned it into a weapon (matter manipulation) the phantom hourglass.

He basically did a Thanos "used the stones to destroy the stones" by turning Ocean King's powers against him.

The plot of the game happens and at the end Bellum was able to get Ocean Kings powers by draining his life force (like rogue from xmen) and became insanely powerful than he was going to destroy the world.

But ocean king being the smart whale that he is fused the phantom sword and the hourglass into a single weapon and that weapon was infused with a ton of energy from himself.

All these are enough to give an upgrade to True Master sword, Full Triforce, golden Master sword, Toon Link, ALTTP link, SS Link, Cia and Ganondorf.

Plus theres a clear power hierarchy within the Loz universe and Hylia, Demise, Ocean King and Wind Fish clearly stands at the top.
 
Well Link is now a playable character in Mario Maker 2. They're adding a new Master Sword power up that turns you into Link, you can stab enemies, dash using the pegasus boots, perform the downward thrust, shoot arrows, and toss bombs.
 
Dust Collector said:
Well Link is now a playable character in Mario Maker 2. They're adding a new Master Sword power up that turns you into Link, you can stab enemies, dash using the pegasus boots, perform the downward thrust, shoot arrows, and toss bombs.
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Which Link?
 
Well it looks like the Link from the NES games, but has the Pegasus Boots and Master Sword like ALTTP Link, but also wields the Hylian Shield which neither of those Links have, so I guess it's just his latest reincarnation I guess
 
Low 2-C | Universe level+: Characters who are capable of significantly affecting, creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely sized 3-dimensional expanse.


Ocean king quite literally did that tho and the game keeps reapeting before Bellum came he manipulated/created and defended everything within his domain.

Many years ago, Bellum appeared and began to consume people's Life Force, an energy which every living thing in the world possesses. Bellum attacked Oshus, who naturally fought back. However, his attacks were futile, and he was subsequently locked away at the bottom of the Temple of the Ocean King, his Life Force at the mercy of his nemesis. Bellum then formulated the Sands of Hours, a crystallized version of Oshus' Life Force, to create monsters that attempted to seal away the Fairies of Power, Wisdom, and Courage.

despite Bellum being a formidable opponent (and his name means also War in Latin) was utterly curb stomp by the ocean king heck ocean king was so strong Bellum had to use whatever life force he got from the ocean king and than turned it into a weapon (matter manipulation) the phantom hourglass.

He basically did a Thanos "used the stones to destroy the stones" by turning Ocean King's powers against him.

The plot of the game happens and at the end Bellum was able to get Ocean Kings powers by draining his life force (like rogue from xmen) and became insanely powerful than he was going to destroy the world.

But ocean king being the smart whale that he is fused the phantom sword and the hourglass into a single weapon and that weapon was infused with a ton of energy from himself.

All these are enough to give an upgrade to True Master sword, Full Triforce, golden Master sword, Toon Link, ALTTP link, SS Link, Cia and Ganondorf.

Plus theres a clear power hierarchy within the Loz universe and Hylia, Demise, Ocean King and Wind Fish clearly stands at the top.

Time to make a thread, don't you think?
 
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