The Ideal Masters exist as platonic ideas (The Elder Scrolls)

[Shazam121]

This comes from the Battlespire Athenaeum, the official strategy guide published by Bethesda for Battlespire.

According to this guide:

- "The Masters are disembodied entities living in a distant Platonic Ideal, their only connection to the Soul Cairn are small magical gems which provide a channel of communication and sensation with those bound in form to the Soul Cairn."

- "The retainers have long undergone a ritual to separate their spirit from their bodies... to produce a form of persistent eternal consciousness."


To be honest, I don't know if this warrants a change to their profiles, or if any of this is quantifiable, but it did seem vaguely impressive to me. Especially when you consider that the Ideal Masters are relatively small fry in TES.

Wiki page on Platonic ideas.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not think that this seems quantifiable either.

 

[Shazam121]

Yeah, I mostly brought it up because of this description of platonic forms from Wikipedia:

"A Form is aspatial (transcendent to space) and atemporal (transcendent to time). Atemporal means that it does not exist within any time period, rather it provides the formal basis for time. It therefore formally grounds beginning, persisting and ending. It is neither eternal in the sense of existing forever, nor mortal, of limited duration. It exists transcendent to time altogether.[16 Forms are aspatial in that they have no spatial dimensions, and thus no orientation in space, nor do they even (like the point) have a location.[17 They are non-physical, but they are not in the mind. Forms are extra-mental (i.e. real in the strictest sense of the word)."]]

But I don't know how, or if at all, this fits into the tiering system.

Do you think it would be okay to make a note of this on the Ideal Masters profile page though? Or perhaps the main TES page.

 

[Antvasima]

Juat a brief note which states that they are claimed to exist as platonic ideas should probably be fine.

 

[Shazam121]

Sounds good.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, feel free to add it then.

 

[Shazam121]

Thank you.

I've made the edit and added the following:

"According to the Battlespire Athenaeum, the Ideal Masters exist as disembodied entities living in a distant platonic ideal. Supposedly they have long undergone rituals to create eternal persistent consciousness."

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Antvasima]

Should we close this thread then?

 

[Shazam121]

Yep