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sonic is invulnerable tho
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The Hero of Mobius vs The God of War
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Hasty12345
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so he'll punch harder GG
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Doesn't sonic just tap with whatever hax he has? Kratos is baseline in everything and doesn't have 5D resistances arceus style
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He does. We, we just went over that.
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None yet. All aspects of himself were elevated anyway, seeing as magic is a universal energy system and intrinsic to all their powers and resistances.
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Honestly from the looks of it Sonic has 5D hax+resistances too, but from Shake's comment I have a feeling Sonic has it more layered in this status, while Kratos doesn't have that advantage anymore with Hope (Since he's baseline what with Hope's nature and how Magic as a UES works in GoW), but so far they both seem to have similar haxes and stuff and both have a portfolio so big I can't make heads or tails out of who overwhelms who first and takes it.
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The main reason I made my last comment was to clarify that I don't think Kratos can conceptually nuke Sonic with his weapons or fists since Sonic is higher in the layer department. I'm not sure how having more layers interacts with Resistance Negation though. Im unsure if Kratos will be able to negate Archie's Immortality, as he gets his Immortality from a Blessed Object rather than from his state of being. Though an argument can be made that Sonic's status as the "Embodiment of Chaos" could actually tip it in Kratos' favor, assuming his Resistance Negation can do it.
On the flipside tho, Ultra Sonic is likely gonna open up with his elemental powers (creating walls of granite as cover, barriers of ice water, etc.) with any direct application of Conceptual Destruction likely being close to a last resort unless Sonic decides to open up with plain energy beams (which he won't, this form gives him an innate affinity for elemental manipulation so he'll be leaning on that unless it proves to be ineffective against Kratos). And I guess it wouldn't be an Archie Sonic match if I didn't mention Fatehax that works on Type 4 Acausals. Which MAY not work depending on how good Kratos' Reactive Evolution to his Fate Manip might be, though I'm unsure if it also affecting Type 4s will be too much.
STILL not voting yet, but I'm actually leaning towards an Inconclusive right now. They seem to counter each other well at every step.Sonic vs Kratos matches are more in-depth and fun than like 80% of other matches going on right now
On the flipside tho, Ultra Sonic is likely gonna open up with his elemental powers (creating walls of granite as cover, barriers of ice water, etc.) with any direct application of Conceptual Destruction likely being close to a last resort unless Sonic decides to open up with plain energy beams (which he won't, this form gives him an innate affinity for elemental manipulation so he'll be leaning on that unless it proves to be ineffective against Kratos). And I guess it wouldn't be an Archie Sonic match if I didn't mention Fatehax that works on Type 4 Acausals. Which MAY not work depending on how good Kratos' Reactive Evolution to his Fate Manip might be, though I'm unsure if it also affecting Type 4s will be too much.
STILL not voting yet, but I'm actually leaning towards an Inconclusive right now. They seem to counter each other well at every step.
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Thank you
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God of War Magic System Explanation Page
The following explains the magic of the setting, its nature, potency, and different manifestations and abilities. There's always been a tie between magic, the soul, and life-force, which can be seen in multiple instances. Vanquishing enemies with runic magic allows one to harness their life...
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Of course it is. That's your only argument lmaoo
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It's funny that the guy you're quoting.... also agrees with it having 5-D hax and resistances.
Also, I was wondering when you'd show up here.
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It's heating up here. Both sides haxs and resistances are very similar, with both the fate and causality manips working on Acausality Type 4. There are conceptual haxs on both sides, but the one with strongest conceptual haxs and more variety will most likely win this battle.
In Kratos, on the other hand, has resistance negation and resistance to "resistance negation".
In Kratos, on the other hand, has resistance negation and resistance to "resistance negation".
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The problem is, how many layers can that really make up for? We're talking about, at bare minimum because there were a LOT of Chaos Emeralds, over a hundred layers. Closer to several hundred and I don't even wanna say a thousand cuz that sounds like wank
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He adapted to and negated 4-dimensional magic over the course of one fight and during his journey to the Fates, he passively adapted to and negated multiverse level control of fate and causality, among other things. He was High 6-A/4-A when he did this.
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Anyway, we still have at least the resistance negation.
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I stand corrected.
Alright, so Kratos should be able to adapt with his Reactive Evolution given enough time due to Ultra Sonic not going for any Chaos Energy blasts from the start. However, Ultra Sonic's speed was stated to be increasing exponentially with every passing moment; it'll reach a point where, even with Kratos' RE, I believe Ultra Sonic will reach a point where his speed is increasing too fast Kratos keep up with. Is this a fair assessment to make?
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Because it's somewhat rare to have two characters on the same tier who have a big wall of hax where the encounter isn't a stomp.
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Yeah, what I meant is that Ultra Sonic's speed growth was on an exponential scale and thus would eventually hike so high by the second that it would eventually surpass Kratos' AD. So it's essentially Kratos catching up through RE on top of AD, while Ultra's speed is growing at a faster rate than anything else in this fight.
If that's the case, both would essentially be on a time crunch (for Kratos it's to adapt to Sonic's Fatehax and kill him before he gets too fast to tag, for Sonic it's to realize he's gotta utilize his Chaos Energy rather than Ixis Magicks to kill Kratos before he adapts to his hax).
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Kratos' RE is fast enough that a like, 5 minute fight had him adapt to power a dimensional level above his existence immediately. His AD can keep up with Zeus' but that isn't too great here.
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In that case, Incon I vote.
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Incon or wincon but it looks more like an incon. But I wouldn't be surprised if wincon
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Then I probably stand by my Inconclusive vote even more which is frankly incredible that it happened with both Game and Archie Sonic.
Both have constantly evolving power in differing ways that give them different advantages, yet both will still need some time to achieve them and at that point I feel the gloves are off as to who can do it first due to both being both excellently skilled in their own right and by and by scaling above others of their setting in skill. Where Kratos has a greater arsenal, Sonic has greater ease of use for his Reality Warping abilities (as they're generally thought-based, though this isn't to discredit Kratos' ability to be diverse as well). Matching each other at every step. Man, what a fun match.
Both have constantly evolving power in differing ways that give them different advantages, yet both will still need some time to achieve them and at that point I feel the gloves are off as to who can do it first due to both being both excellently skilled in their own right and by and by scaling above others of their setting in skill. Where Kratos has a greater arsenal, Sonic has greater ease of use for his Reality Warping abilities (as they're generally thought-based, though this isn't to discredit Kratos' ability to be diverse as well). Matching each other at every step. Man, what a fun match.
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incon fra
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My man, just wait for Dante vs Kratos
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Anyway @ShakeResounding pretty much summed up Sonic's brand of comic BS pretty well, so I'll vote incon FRA also keep in mind Archie is due for some future revisions (as you can see the formatting on the P&A section clashes with itself) but iirc it's mostly going to affect post-SGW Archie in terms of P&A.
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ShakeResounding
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Yeah aside from properly blogging the layer stuff, there's no further additions I have to make for Pre-Genesis aside from formatting shit.
Georredannea15
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Btw, Sonic should definitely be on the non-Smurf Low 1-C list with these hax layers.
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We've got this thing for the list already (He is 6D while Sonic and Co are 5D
Still surprised he has profile here tbh.
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