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The Greatest Magicmaster's Retirement Plan profile additions

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EldemadeDityjon said:
Profile looks Good. Also you don't need a CRT to drop this it's a 6C tier so no problem.
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It was deleted prior and did not have that tier originally, so I'd say it's probably needed.

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This really doesn't sound like conceptual manipulation but it saying (paraphrase) "Other attributes can manipulate but attributeless is the only one that can manipulate directly". Them having the "concept of manipulation" just seems to say "they can manipulate it in some sort of way" instead of referring to manipulation of actual ontological concepts.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
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This really doesn't sound like conceptual manipulation but it saying (paraphrase) "Other attributes can manipulate but attributeless is the only one that can manipulate directly". Them having the "concept of manipulation" just seems to say "they can manipulate it in some sort of way" instead of referring to manipulation of actual ontological concepts.
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There is a scan in Resistance page check that.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Honestly I don't see that as literal either. There being no "concept of range" just seems to be referring to no matter how far a person is it'll always hit at that range with the sentence of "his target was always in range". There is still range in play.
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You see the Line Common Magic can Manipulate the space but Manipulating the space itself would affect the Laws of the world. I think it's enough for conceptual manipulation.

Normal space manipulation wouldn't affect the laws of the world.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:


You see the Line Common Magic can Manipulate the space but Manipulating the space itself would affect the Laws of the world. I think it's enough for conceptual manipulation.

Normal space manipulation wouldn't affect the laws of the world.
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Wouldn't manipulating space as a way to manipulate the laws of physics be possible? But still not really strong enough to relate to CM.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
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This really doesn't sound like conceptual manipulation but it saying (paraphrase) "Other attributes can manipulate but attributeless is the only one that can manipulate directly". Them having the "concept of manipulation" just seems to say "they can manipulate it in some sort of way" instead of referring to manipulation of actual ontological concepts.
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It means every attribute has some level of conceptual manipulation but attribute-less can govern space far more Greater.
Normal magic could affect space as well, but manipulation of space itself was the essence of attribute-less. Because of that, it could distort the laws of the world to a greater extent.
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Godsatoshi23 said:
It means every attribute has some level of conceptual manipulation but attribute-less can govern space far more Greater.
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I don't really see how you could come to conclusion from that tbh. Directly affecting space would also be far more greater than indirectly affecting it too. To me it just seems to be referring to how they have a way of manipulating space but how attributeless does it directly as opposed to indirectly/or that attributeless is only one which can manipulate directly.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
I don't really see how you could come to conclusion from that tbh. Directly affecting space would also be far more greater than indirectly affecting it too. To me it just seems to be referring to how they have a way of manipulating space but how attributeless does it directly as opposed to indirectly.
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But in this case it is directly said as 'concept of manipulation' also. so I think it should enough for CM type 2.

Also, here Alus said about space being the very concept.
“A space is not a void. This is rudimentary training to recognize the axes of coordinates and your mana’s point of action, the very concept of space itself. It’s important to understand that it’s not a line or a plane, but a three-dimensional space.”
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and concept of information it's self has to be frozen.
“In your case, you need enough mana to strongly interfere with space, and it must be the ice attribute at that. In practice, that means space in its entirety. In other words, the very concept of information needs to be frozen,” said Alus.
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Edit: It's pretty clear about CM 2 as it said many times of it space itself being the concept and Alus can govern this very thing however he wants.
 
Godsatoshi23 said:
But in this case it is directly said as 'concept of manipulation' also. so I think it should enough for CM type 2.

Also, here Alus said about space being the very concept.

and concept of information it's self has to be frozen.

Edit: It's pretty clear about CM 2 as it said many times of it space itself being the concept and Alus can govern this very thing however he wants.
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Yea this works. Should probably use it in CM.
 
I corrected the sandbox and reworte the explanation for CM type 2.

Now that the three staff's agree with the profile addition, can I publish it now?
 
Godsatoshi23 said:
I corrected the sandbox and reworte the explanation for CM type 2.

Now that the three staff's agree with the profile addition, can I publish it now?
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Tier: At least 6-C, likely higher; far higher (with <Gra Eater>)
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Change it into

Tier: At least 6-C, likely higher; far higher with <Gra lEater>
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No need for closed brackets
 
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