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It destroy the target by inside
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The Future Pirate King Vs. Mob
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Internal damage.
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What are the win conditions for Mob and Luffy?
Wasn't Luffy's LS supposed to be upgraded, considering that everyone agreed to the changes
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Ryou is essentially Luffy's passive durability negation (which he uses in base to bypass Kaido's ridiculously durability and actively hurting him with his punches,) he can destroy his target from the inside and coats his fists in "Advanced Armament Haki/Conquer Haki - Ryou"
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This is almost a stomp even without taking into account absorption.
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Is it a field or just coated onto his punches?
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Just his punches. He can use Ryou in Gear 2 and Gear 4 too
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Doesn't haki resist telekinesis because of law?
No.
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The point is that Mob can passively absorb energy, which means that he can absorb haki energy, which means that luffy wont be able to use Haki to defend himself from Telekinesis
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That's not the same at all... That's like saying big mom, law or others can take someone's haki
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What?
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Except Haki is not energy. Haki is literally translated as "Spirit/Ambition". In order words Haki is the physical manifestation of one's "Spirit". If your Haki runs out you are not dead, if your will is broke you cannot use Haki (Moria).
Mob cannot absorb Haki, even then it's established very early on in this wiki that Haki cannot be equalized.
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I was giving the explanation that the others said btw
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Absorbing Haki means absorbing the "Spirit" or "Soul" of the User, it's completely different than Energy.
Although, according to Rayleigh Haki is an "invisible armor", so I really don't know where the energy = Haki part comes from?
Although, according to Rayleigh Haki is an "invisible armor", so I really don't know where the energy = Haki part comes from?
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Voting Luffy via starting with a Speed Amp punch, Haki resisting telekinesis, Observation Haki (will know what will happen beforehand and used effective counters), much More skilled, much better endurance, will one shot with dura neg, Range the follows the target (luffy's arm), and better Stamina.
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Even if Luffy has Dura Neg, wouldn't Mob just Regen/Heal the damage he gets? Also its 17 Gigatons at max vs at least 12 Gigatons, not enough for a one shot
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Except you are not taking into account that Luffy can throw a barrage of punches approximately more than 100 fists at once(Gatling, Jet Gatling, Storm, Kong Organ, Black Mamba). Similarly how Kenshiro's hundred crack fists works, which works in a speed equalized match as well.
One Kong gun sent Doffy flying, Luffy can throw 50+ more punches via Kong Organ and each of them can bypass durability via Ryou.
I hope you are trying to imply that Mob can shrug off a punch from Gear 4 Luffy with ease?
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Shrug off? No it would hurt, its just not enough for it to be a one shot even with Ryou.
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The dura neg is Haki based
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Luffy scales > Doflamingo's Strings which scales to Jozu, which scales to the god tiers which scales to Marco, who held Queen and King, both of them are > 7 Trillion kg.
G4th Luffy is at least 14 Trillion kg, superior to Mob
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Ryou is dura neg
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You know what a barrage of fists are, right? Luffy throws 100+ 4.3 Gigatons punches at once and each of them can bypass durability now via Ryou.
I genuinely don't see how Mob can tank a Kong Organ and pretend that everything is fine. Katakuri, who is a Proficient Busoshoku Haki (should be comparable to Whole Cake Gear 4 Luffy) could barely defend himself from a Kong gun, despite him further amping his durability via Busoshoku Haki.
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Yes, I know that. I'm just saying Dura Neg by itself isn't an instant win.
Dura Neg w/ Regen Null up to Mid? THAT is a big factor there.
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But its literally a barrage of fists that can cover Mob entire body
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Anyways, I vote Luffy for superior lifting, stupidly good dura neg, regen neg, etc
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Luffy vs Crocodile, Luffy vs Lucci and Luffy vs Katakuri is pretty much self-explanatoryBut its literally a barrage of fists that can cover Mob entire body
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Yeah, I'm convinced. Going for Luffy for his Haki abilities, better stamina, and better combat experience.
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Keep in mind that Katakuri is larger than Rob Lucci and Crocodile combined (Mob is pretty small by comparison)
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???% is superior to 100% Toichirou who's above his 50% state which scales above the 100% Mob that does the feat.
That gotten out of the way, does Luffy actually resist telekinesis?
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Confused me a little, so is he > Luffy's lifting cause of that?
The wiki currently accepts Haki being resistant to Law's abilities, which include Telekinesis, so yeah
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He's above 2× 11 Trillion so yeah, he should be.
Huh. So can Mob do anything here?
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Can Mob only do telekinesis? Can't he throw stuff at Luffy?
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