I don't think it matters if Jason can crawl his way out of hell or not because we have no idea how long it'll take him to do that so it counts as incap even if he doesn't stay dead.
I didn't even notice that speed isn't equalized. Subsonic reactions will let BF easily dodge Jason's attacks assuming he isn't caught off guard but he seems to be faster in other speed categories so BF won't be able to catch him if he decides to run for example. Jason isn't an idiot so once he sees that his normal strikes are doing practically no damage to BF while the latter can overpower and potentially wound him heavily, he'll likely retreat and think of other ways to kill him which he actually has a lot surprisingly. While BF does have Immortality Type 2, he doesn't have resistance to either high heat or electricity which can somewhat bypass his durability. Jason can set up traps to stun BF then set him on fire or electrocute him. He can also sneak up on BF with his stealth and invisibility which negates the reaction speed difference, hit him, and then just run. His profile doesn't directly mention it but Jason does have ranged attacks in the form of throwing knives. Another wincon that's a bit unlikely but still feasible is for him to drown BF if he can somehow get the latter into water.
Then Boyfriend just needs to take him out then it’s unknown whether he’ll be back on time.
I don't know, he's stated to be dumb, only really scared of lightning, idk if he would arm himself. Also he's stronger and faster though so yeah. Just checking this isn't a stomp right? I want this to get to 7 votes to it's a Notable match
Good luck hitting Jason with those weapons because he won't make it easy and Boyfriend doesn't even use weapons in character nor is he skilled with them. The only reason we never see him retreat is because the campers don't pose a long term threat to him most of the time. He definitely doesn't need to grab Boyfriend to pour gasoline on him or kick him into an electric box. Jason have much higher pain tolerance and the bear traps can still keep him in place for a bit.
Yeah but so are the campers in the game and Boyfriend is implied to at least somewhat know how to use a gun. If there’s one nearby and he really wants to beat up Jason, I think he’d use one.
I mean he does in the game when he’s just walking into your stuff. One of Jason’s main things is how slowly and imposingly he approaches you when he’s not teleporting. Boyfriend knows how to treat self inflicted gun wounds which likely means he’s at least handled a gun before. He should be able to pop Jason with the flare gun and take the moment to tear him apart with LS. I just find it weird to think of Jason running from anyone, especially what’s basically a normal person with some superhuman strength. And those win cons depend on Boyfriend being lured to a place where Jason has advantage, not being able to react when Jason attacks or traps him, and not enduring long enough to get away from the thing hurting him. Maybe he’d not get the threat with gasoline but if he’s being electrocuted he should definitely try to get away with his resilient immortality.
Thing is though, Boyfriend's is pretty good at using terrain and such to his advantage, and can be very violent, being able to absolutely **** up those on his level.
fair enough
I completely forgot about that. Good to know we do have some reference that BF can fight. He should definitely be able to hanging with Pico. Maybe should add that roll he did to acrobatics and his battle iq there.
I actually calculated some stuff from that. I'll make a CRT actually
Btw, A was arguing for Jason though I don’t think they voted
ah my bad ill ask them
The campers are normal ass people who can escape from an undead killer with supernatural powers and they can formulate a whole complicated plan that involves stealing the sweater of Jason's mother to kill him. How does that make them dumb? Also, any scans to support your claims? I have literally never seen BF touch a gun.
Because those stuff normally don't pose any threat to him, rather just slow him down and mildly annoy him? He's only as slow and imposing as he wants to. He won't be slow against an opponent who can potentially take his life. So if a random doctor can treat a gunshot wound, that must mean he also knows how to properly handle a firearm, right? What's with that leap of logic? BF knows what to do when he gets shot so now he can suddenly use a gun, something we have never seen him do before? Oh, and nothing about him is normal (he's a 7 feet tall blue haired guy who can only say "beep boop"). Jason can just attack him from afar with throwing knives and BF will give chase because he's stupid and sees that Jason's attacks aren't hurting him much, then he steps onto a bear trap hidden in the grass. Of course he would try to get away but nothing stops Jason from just running away and luring him into different types of traps one after the other.
About the commercial:
Get a CGM to review them.
His reactions won't matter if Jason is just gonna go invisible or teleport right behind him and I don't know how a guy who always starts a fight by challenging his opponents to a singing battle regardless of how dangerous they appear can outsmart a seasoned supernatural killer.
Agreed, but he can fight, and will if his life depends on it, i think could dogge a good few attacks, and shake of attacks or tear him apart via better LS
Jason does have higher AP but BF has much higher durability which makes him a stonewall. The commercial straight up showed us that he can't dodge a stealth attack (DD tried to sneak up on BF but he saw him on the TV screen which allowed him to react while he got caught completely off guard by MM). Would BF even try to tear his opponent apart? The best thing the LS does for him is preventing Jason from grabbing him and maybe not getting pushed around easily.
That really depends on the players though. I doubt that ultra specific Jason killing scenario is really accurate to the campers overall. Most of the time they’re floundering trying to get away and grabbing weapons which BF will also be doing.
Tbf Boyfriend was able to survive a likely fatal electric shock from Mommy Mearest in the commercial while he was being transformed into a figure. He was visibly harmed, but he survived
I'll get an expert on FNF @James_Plays_4_Games
Is he even smart enough to do that? The profile itself says that he's too dumb to register danger which explains why he always challenges his enemies to a sing off first regardless of how threatening they look.
BF was transmuted into the figurine before we could see how much it actually affected him so it's unquantifiable anyway.
He can’t register danger but he can show malice and willingness to defend himself as shown from the Reddit post where it’s said he’d brutalize someone and the DD fight. If he wants to mess someone up and there’s a gun around, I think he’d use it.
Okay, I'm not gonna respond to all of that because I think I have proven my point already. You're judging what Jason would do through gameplay mechanics while I'm judging what BF would do through what the profile tells me. Nuff' said.
It feels more like you’re ignoring the context of the characters but alright. Hopefully more people vote.
ill get some more people actually
Getting set on fire and electrocuted is definitely more painful and deadlier.
He can (and would) fight back though, which wouldn't be good for Jason considering his generally better stats
He's only better in durability and reactions which doesn't help against ambushes or Jason just teleporting behind him. Also, Jason when he's pissed off is completely unaffected by weapon attacks (Look for the moments yourself, they're in there).
Also LS so if Jason tries grabbing him which he does do in game and the scans on his profile, BF will break his arm.
He just teleports out of it and doesn't repeat the same mistake?
Doesn’t that take time, looking at the scan he at least needs to think of a location to get in which’ll be hard to do before BF beats him to death. And he can’t heal so if say his arm is destroyed he might be cooked.
Reactions would 100% help if Jason tried to sneak up on him, considering he's generally only average human in speed, and Boyfriend can be very violent lol
How the hell does BF beat Jason to death in a few seconds when he's a less skilled stonewall with lower AP?!? All he has is a mic and his hands while Jason has an extended melee range weapon and throwing knives so he isn't getting hit unless he goes for ONLY grabs like you think he does. His teleportation is thought-based, you said it yourself. It wouldn't take him a few seconds to think about teleporting away from a threat. Having your arm broken (again, how does BF do it in just a few seconds of contact?) doesn't equal losing it or completely losing the ability to fight, especially if you have Immortality Type 2 and ridiculously high pain tolerance.
How exactly do you react to something that completely catches you off guard?
