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The Emperor of Mankind vs The Lunar Capital

On a side note, does anyone think the Lunarians are Touhou versions of Eldars?

They generally looks down on all of the inhabitants of Earth and everyone else that are "impure" and even claims that living and dying alone is a sin to the Lunarians.
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
How good is lunar capital's conceptul manipulation resistance?
The God existed long before Concepts existed and then created the First concepts, they can give names to concepts and create them from that.

Also, as all the Gods are Omnipresent, they will go first and will always hit.
 
Udlmaster said:
The God existed long before Concepts existed and then created the First concepts, they can give names to concepts and create them from that.

Also, as all the Gods are Omnipresent, they will go first and will always hit.
So, who do you vote for?
 
Okay, if we include everyone that has been apart of the Lunar Capital, then they could win with Kaguya using Eternity Hax which is one of the few hax the Emp doesn't have resistance too, then with the rest of the Lunar Capital using abilities that destroy the Emperor on multiple levels of Existence.

Since this is a lot of Gods vs 1 man, they could overwhelm him and with all the Lunarian Gods, they could overcome some of his resistances as well as other Gods naming concepts or destroying them to defeat the Emperor.

Additionally, all these Gods can duplicate themselves infinity to overwhelm him as well.

Now the Emperor does have Precog, but there's not much he can really do against an army of Gods spamming duplication and all of them Destroying his concept (At least one would) and others messing with him until the others defeat him.
 
Do the Lunar Capital have anything that can defend themselves from the Emperor's erasure which is so potent that not even 4 High 1-B Gods who can manipulate reality and concepts on a whim could do anything to restore what was erased by the Emperor? And he doesn't need to use his sword to erase, he can just do this by thinking too hard while still on the verge of death.

Also, isn't eternity manipulation basically another form of Time manipulation, something that even psykers far, far weaker than the Emperor can resist?
 
From what I know, Eternity Manipulation is more affecting the frame of Time, not really Time Manipulation.

It's not really Time Manipulation but it does affect the Frame of Time.

Does his Void Manipulation affect more than one being?
 
Either way, I do not think it will affect the Emperor that much seeing as how 4 High 1-B gods who can easily manipulate reality, space-time, concepts and many, many more on at least 1-B scale could do not anything against him in the materium.

As for Void Manipulation, there's this:

The Emperor fought an armoured giant twice his height and breadth. Its skull was a vast, iron-helmed boulder with elephantine tusks and chisel-like teeth that gleamed dully. Its eyes were coal-red slits of such vicious intelligence that it stole Horus's breath.

Horus had never seen its equal. No bestiary would include its description for fear of being ridiculed, no magos of the Mechanicum would accept such a specimen could exist. Six clanking, mechanised limbs bolted through its flesh bore grinding, crackling, sawing, snapping, flame-belching weapons of murder. The Emperor's armour was burning, the golden wreath now ashes around his neck. Chugging rotor cannons battered the Emperor's armour even as claws of lightning tore portions of it away. It was taking every screed of the Emperor's warrior skill and psychic might to keep the mech-warlord's weaponry from killing him.

'Father!' shouted Horus.

The greenskin turned and saw Horus. It saw the desperation in his face and laughed. A fist like a Reductor siege hammer smashed the Emperor's sword aside and a fist of green flesh lifted him into the air. It crushed the life from him with its inhuman power.

[…]

Seizing the chance he had been given, the Emperor bent low and surged upwards with his bluesteel sword extended. The tip ripped into the Mech-Warlord's belly and burst from its back in a shower of sparks.

'Now you die,' said the Emperor, and ripped his blade up.

It was an awful, agonising, mortal wound. Electrical fire vented from hideous metal organs within the wreckage of the greenskin's body. It was a murderous wound that not even a beast of such unimaginable proportions could take and live.

Yet that was not the worst of it.

Horus felt the build up of colossal psychic energies and shielded his eyes as a furious light built within the Emperor. Power like nothing he had ever seen his father wield, or even suspected he possessed. All consuming, all powerful, it was the power to extinguish life in every sphere of its existence. Physical flesh turned to ash before it and what ancient faiths had once called a soul was burned out of existence, never to cohere again.

Nothing would ever remain of he who suffered such a fate. Their body and soul would pass from the finite energy of the universe, to fade into memory and have all that they were wiped from the canvas of existence. This was as complete a death as it was possible to suffer.

[…]

That power blazed along the Emperor's sword, filling the greenskin with killing light. It erupted in a bellowing golden explosion, and lightning blazed from the coruscating afterimage of its death, arcing from ork to ork as it sought out all those who were kin to the master of Gorro. Unimaginable energies poured from the Emperor, reaching throughout the entirety of the chamber and burning every last shred of alien flesh to a mist of drifting golden ash.

Horus watched as the power of life and death coursed through the Emperor, saw him swell in stature until he was like unto a god. Wreathed in pellucid amber flames, towering and majestic. His father never claimed to be a god, and refuted such notions with a vengeance. He had even castigated a son for believing what Horus now saw before him with his very own eyes…
 
To add on, he also have precog that is laughably superior to the likes Ahriman that it's not even funny at all. And Ahriman's precog is of this level:

"He felt all sense fall away. Everything became distant, just another pattern spinning through the quiet stillness. He could see the possibilities of the next nanosecond, multiply and collapse. He saw the Rubricae climbing over the walls, the molten stone squashing beneath their feet. He saw Astraeos fall. He saw a figure of fire waiting at the end of a billion branching futures. He was the storm, the still point around which the warp turned." - Ahriman: Sorcerer
 
Also, that High 1-B stuff only works when he's in the Warp, otherwise, no, he's not High 1-B or has High 1-B resistances.

Also, can I get a TL;DR for that Void Manip thing?
 
Udlmaster said:
Also, that High 1-B stuff only works when he's in the Warp, otherwise, no, he's not High 1-B or has High 1-B resistances.

Also, can I get a TL;DR for that Void Manip thing?
Actually, it still works in the materium as he erase Horus on such a scale that all four Chaos God couldn't do anything to bring him back or even replicate him, and this is when the Emperor is literally dying. He also still has resistance of 1-B scale in the materium otherwise if it weren't for that, the Chaos God have would have extreme pleasure with doing basically whatever they want with the Emperor.

And before you say that the Chaos Gods' powers only works on that scale if they're in the Warp, keep in mind that if the Emperor fails to hold them back from breaking into realspace, it would cause all of realspace which has so many dimensions that no so limited language could describe the sheer numbers to completely collapse.

Here's a respect thread where I found the Void Manipulation thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2jxqaq/respect_the_god_emperor_of_mankind_40k/
 
Well, for one, the Wiki doesn't see it as such, otherwise Realspace Emp wouldn't exist and he's be "High 1-B, Possibly 1-A".

And if the wiki does see it that way, then what the hell, this is just a Spite Thread.
 
One is the Lenin of humanity... The others are just a bunch of racists jerks. To be honest both are a bunch of racists. But since we are talking about someone who can hold back four High 1-B gods then we can say that the Lunarians are part of the Empire after this. The Emperor GG
 
BleedingPeach said:
One is the Lenin of humanity... The others are just a bunch of racists jerks. To be honest both are a bunch of racists. But since we are talking about someone who can hold back four High 1-B gods then we can say that the Lunarians are part of the Empire after this. The Emperor GG
True. To be honest the Lunarians are essentially Touhou version of Eldars, perhaps even worse.
 
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