Immortality (Types 2 [Able to function unimpeded after receiving injuries as severe as being impaled through the skull and torso and having organs ripped out[6]], 4, and 8 [Reliant on the Moon Presence and the Hunter's Dream[7][8], the Moon Presence will constantly revive the Hunter if they are killed])
In this key its three layers, and its applied via the Bloodletter weapon, if the Hunter hits or even hits hear Legion they will be inflicted with Frenzy, a status effect that is the result of a target being forced to process information incomprehensible to humans, such as information about the Great Ones, Eldritch Truth, or Cosmos. This effect is a twofold form of damage, as when this occurs those affected will rapidly devolve into utter madness mentally, while physically their blood will begin to violently erupt out of various random points on their body as spears of solidified Frenzied Coldblood.
Legion doesn't technically need to kill The Hunter to put him down for an extended period of time. He could just transmute him into gold or some shit, which is layered, or vore his mind and turn him into a potato.
If it's applied via contact it's never going to work. Legion spams teleportation (which works not only on himself, but on others) to dodge attacks, and can disperse his body the moment before an impact to dodge it.
Wouldnt work, the hunter has layered resistance to that and it would trigger an automatic time rewind even if he did end up affected by it. The mind devouring in particular is just something a bunch of enemies in Bloodborne can do and the Hunter can shrug it off just fine.
It's not via contact, it's from the energy given off by the Bloodletter. Teleportation spam isnt anything new to the Hunter, most of the Pthumenrian and Great One bosses do that as well. The Hunter's NPI should be sufficient to counteract body dispersion, and even then dispersing at the moment of impact wouldnt help him dodge the energy AoE.
Once again assuming 3 layers, Legion has the exact same number of layers on all his hax and potentially more, so they are both definitely working. Also, where has Hunter "shrugged off" mind absorption? Not on his profile.
The range of the aura isn't high enough to prevent Legion from just constantly teleporting him and his attacks kilometers away. It works not only on Legion himself but also his opponents.
Fair enough ig but it's still never going to hit him.
The Hunter has 5 layers of resistance to mental hax, its just his offensive madness hax that are weaker in this key.
How does he do that exactly?
He can do that but The Hunter has access to three of each kind of weapon, potentially more if he ends up dying as that gives him a few minutes between restarting the fight to just go make a bunch of new ones in The Hunter's Dream.
That would help avoid the physical strike but not the Frenzy.
And these 5 layers also apply to mental absorption? I'd need some proof that it's spread the same across all forms of mental attack.
Multiple ways. He's done it by clapping before, sometimes he snaps his fingers, and other times he does it via thought.
I mean if he pulls out another weapon immediately after the first one gets deconstructed why wouldn't Legion simply do the same until he's out of weapons-
The AoE isn't high enough. He's used this method of dodging to avoid attacks with tens to hundreds of meters of range, the dispersion is incredibly quick and spread out.
It is yeah, in Bloodborne they're effectively one and the same, I can post the explanation when I get home from work
That sounds like bull but I'll wait.
How exactly does this prove he's unaffected by complete mental absorption?
Dealt with how? There's no way he deals with just getting all his attacks dodged via teleportation. "Deal with" is EXTREMELY vague.
And Legion has infinite stamina and is INCREDIBLY patient. He'll keep trying until he wins.
Not really. He did this against people who were just as fast as he is.
*Baseline is using Blood as a healing medium and means of empowerment, as the vast, vast majority of characters in the verse have their minds warped and go insane from using just a small fraction of what the Hunter uses.
Something something unaffected by having multiple lifetimes worth of knowledge stolen from his mind. Though now that i think about it, trying to absorb the Hunter's mind would be a very, very bad idea if Legion doesnt have really good madness resistance, because the Hunter's mind is filled with knowledge that drives other people insane just from seeing fractions of it.
That is something he has dealt with yes, enemies just dodging his stuff is kinda a core component of the game, and half the bosses spam teleportation (Hell, th fight against Mergo's Wet Nurse had him fight a Great One that shrouded the entire arena in darkness, spammed teleportation, and had illusory clones of itself attacking him all at the same time and he killed her). I am curious how Legion is able to teleport melee attacks though.
What i mean is its not an instant wincon as the Hunter can just teleport back, and unless Legion has a way to detect him it would give the Hunter the opportunity to just stealth kill Legion.
I mean, The Hunter has absurd stamina in his own right and if he does end up dying he just gets restored to his peak power and stamina from before the fight even began. He can try all he wants but the Hunter isnt going to just give up.
Dodging lasers isnt new to the Hunter either, even homing ones have been dodged before.
Are you trying to prove layered resistance or something? These all seem completely unrelated to mental absorption.
Legion is literally 10,000 years old and has also absorbed knowledge from people with several lifetimes of experience. And if the knowledge he absorbs might kill him he'll just see that in the process of absorption and decide not to do it.
...you... didn't answer my question. Dealt with HOW? In what way did he deal with it? You're still just being vague.
It's not an instant wincon but it's a pretty good wincon since you still haven't elaborated on how Hunter "deals with it" which is making me quite skeptical on his ability to actually deal with it.
If Legion does kill Hunter even once somehow he's going to realize that he actually shouldn't kill him, and take whatever necessary means to defeat him without killing him. He has a resistance to time reversal so he's not losing his memories whenever Hunter dies, so he'll realize that Hunter is coming back even better after like... the first time and simply decide not to kill him.
I'm getting tired of this weird argument you keep making about the Hunter dealing with shit. HOW does he deal with it? Show me him dealing with it. Unlike a profile for a webtoon shit for games is much harder to believe when you describe it in this vague ass way which makes me doubt you.
gonna stop you there azontr, for these lists it's SBA locations only unless the character literally can't exist outside of a specific area so yeh
Good enough
Alright, this is just straight up lying by omission.
It is proof of layered resistance yes. One layer of resistance is resisting the mental damage of Blood, two layers is resisting the Shaman Bone Blade and Madman's Knowledge/Great Ones' Wisdom which can affect those unaffected by Blood, three layers is resisting the Beast Plague which can affect those unaffected by the Shaman Bone Blade and Madman's Knowledge/Great Ones' Wisdom, four layers is resisting Frenzy which can affect those unaffected by the Beast Plague.
Alright so we're in agreement that mental absorption wouldnt work
Im being vague because there isnt some special way that The Hunter beat them, he just fought and killed them, he didnt do it in some fancy or hyper-specific manner, he just beat them. And again, i dont see how teleportation alone is a wincon when the Hunter can just teleport back.
So...Legion just gives up? That would mean the Hunter wins.
See my post above in regards to teleportation.
The Hunter would reset time long before that happens, and time auto-resets on a KO anyways (ableit its kinda hard to KO someone who can shrug off brain destruction)
Again, Brainsuckers, they quite literally vore the Hunter's mind.
Wut?
Or the Hunter would beat his head against the wall until he does pass out. We've never seen him tire so we dont know what he does.
...My guy are you really arguing that the Hunter is just stupid?
I can add that later today sure, will also make an argument for infinite stamina too even though it shouldnt even be necessary for a match like this
The Amygdala doesnt KO the Hunter is just teleports him to the Nightmare Frontier
He took the blood transfusion despite everything screaming that it was a bad idea, so... yeah I'm arguing he's an idiot
The danmaku sited is only 1000, with acrobatics which The Hunter has I don't see it being an issue and with his teleportation it shouldn't even be a problem for him to evade them all. Could've missed it but does Legion spam teleportation to bring the person back? And does that teleportation have inter dimensional range to even bring him back? Does he actively use the Desire miracle? On the page it says "should have" so hesitant to accept that as something he's just gonna use to incap.
The Hunter's acrobatics are NOT ENOUGH to dodge over 1000 projectiles, what? Read above, the feats of Hunter dealing with danmaku or teleportation aren't nearly enough.
He does do so to bring a person to whatever location he wants but it isn't interdimensional range. Not like he needs it.
He doesn't utilize it immediately but eventually if the Hunter keeps miraculously reviving from death (assuming Legion does kill him) he will use it as a form of incap.
They literally fighting inside his body my blud, he's gonna know where the Hunter is when he's literally walking inside an extension of his flesh.
Bro what are you talking about. The Hunter isn't acrobatic enough to dodge a thousand human-sized orbs.
Its a game, those aren't even feats. Unless I'm missing some cutscene where he got ****** up by low projectile danmaku
He needs it if the Hunter goes to the hunters dream or nightmare.
Is there any implication he has it?
Teleports out.
Game mechanics aren't an argument, dont pretend they are.
"Game mechanics" aren't an argument.
He's eventually gonna come back on his own lol.
That is how kinship in Fray works. The Master (Legion) is capable of utilizing the Miracle of his Kin (who has the Miracle) due to their contract.
And does what with what AoE lol.
The definitely are. Not boutta downplay someone's acrobatics cuz of game mechanics and players timing. If The Hunter can evade shit then he can. And I aint only arguing for acrobatics here I'm saying with that and his teleportation he should be fine.
