Alien X and the Contumelia have immeasurable lifting strength!

[Celestial_Scaler25]

1.The Contumelia have immeasurable lifting strength.

The Contumelia are 5th dimensional beings and thus have Large size (Type 10), this is shown on their page, which already makes them infinitely superior to any 3 dimensional space, and thus exceeding basic infinite mass as the wiki indicates. They are seen walking around able to effortlessly supporting their own mass in their appearance.

2.Celestialsapiens have immeasurable lifting strength.

The Celestialsapiens should all logically upscale from the Contumelia due to being the strongest beings in their respective verse.

Alien X could also effortlessly move multiple infinite masses across the infinite universe. But I'd like to argue that Alien X also moved alternate spaces that are in the Universe. Like the Null Void, an extradimensional pocket dimension that goes on forever(skip to 17:00) and Legerdomain, a alternate dimension made of multi-dimensional mana inside the universe with it's own space-time continuum.(It was even stated by Paradox that Ben also recreated time when he recreated the universe). Starbeard stated that Ben with his Celestialsapien form recreated 'the universe' and everything in it.

There is also the argument that Alien X affected not just a singular dimension/timeline. Alien X also recreated Mad Ben's alternative dimension as shown by the Mr. Smoothly logo change in the background.

The Annhilarrgh can destroy an entire multiverse and Alien X recreated it and moved it from his body as shown here.

The Contumelia have immeasurable lifting strength:
Agree: @OMNIVERSAL-KING @Gendolfgg1

Disagree: @Georredannea15 @Pepsimanlover_69 @LuffyRuffy46307 @Dragonite007

Neutral: @Hellformer @AThe1412

Celestialsapiens have immeasurable lifting strength:
Agree: @Hellformer @OMNIVERSAL-KING @Georredannea15 @Gendolfgg1 @Pepsimanlover_69 @NXCTH66 @LuffyRuffy46307 @Dragonite007 @AThe1412

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[Dragonite007]

Why Contumelia has Large Size type 10, If he is human-sized?

 

[AThe1412]

Why Contumelia has Large Size type 10, If he is human-sized?

Did you look at the profile or the first video in the OP? Lower-dimensional beings can't perceive the Contumelia's true form but instead sees them as whatever holds the most emotional sway over them. In Ben's case, he sees them as a bunch of sentient human-sized smoothies.

 

[Dragonite007]

Did you look at the profile or the first video in the OP? Lower-dimensional beings can't perceive the Contumelia's true form but instead sees them as whatever holds the most emotional sway over them. In Ben's case, he sees them as a bunch of sentient human-sized smoothies.

And?

Large-Size is for beings bigger than multiverses, the Contumelia's ship (The place where they live) is not even town-sized.


HDE =/= Large Size

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Why Contumelia has Large Size type 10, If he is human-sized?

They are 5th dimensional beings and are infinitely greater than any 3 dimensional space/infinite weight like a universe.

 

[Dragonite007]

They are 5th dimensional beings and are infinitely greater than any 3 dimensional space/infinite weight like a universe.

See above

HDE =/= Large size

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

And?

Large-Size is for beings bigger than multiverses, the Contumelia's ship (The place where they live) is not even town-sized.


HDE =/= Large Size

That's Large size type 9. The Contumelia quality for large size type 10.
'Characters larger than a conventional multiverse, having size equivalent to higher infinities.'

The don't exist on a higher dimension. Their mere form is higher dimensional and larger than a standard multiverse.

 

[Dragonite007]

That's Large size type 9. The Contumelia quality for large size type 10.
'Characters larger than a conventional multiverse, having size equivalent to higher infinities.'

The don't exist on a higher dimension. Their mere form is higher dimensional and larger than a standard multiverse.

They aren't bigger than a multiverse, they are literally human-sized, having a additional extradimensional axis don't mean that automatically you're bigger than a standard multiverse. They're characters with HDE that has Small Size

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

They aren't bigger than a multiverse, they are literally human-sized, having a additional extradimensional axis don't mean that automatically you're bigger than a standard multiverse. They're characters with HDE that has Small Size

Having higher dimensional existence can qualify characters for large size as well like the Contumelia having both. But that is not what this crt is here to disscuss.

As lifting additional dimensions do qualify for immeasurable lifting strength as the wiki page states. Them supporting their own 5th dimensional forms qualifies them for this.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Did you look at the profile or the first video in the OP? Lower-dimensional beings can't perceive the Contumelia's true form but instead sees them as whatever holds the most emotional sway over them. In Ben's case, he sees them as a bunch of sentient human-sized smoothies.

Do you agree then?

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP

 

[Hellformer]

Neutral for Contumelias but agree with Celestialsapiens

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

They aren't bigger than a multiverse, they are literally human-sized

So you have seen their true forms and size without authors even revealing it

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

AGREE WITH EVERYTHING

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

For that, my Annihilarg revision needs to be completed. Then it can be accepted.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

For that, my Annihilarg revision needs to be completed. Then it can be accepted.

Why does your Annhilarrgh revision need to be completed for this to be accepted? Can you send me a link to that CRT.

 

[Georredannea15]

Yeah, hard disagree with large size. For large size not only you have to be 5-dimensional, you should also have the volume and the size of a 5-dimensional spatial structure, but they are only human-sized higher dimensional being.

Just as there are extra axes, these axes must also should be infinite or universal sized

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Yeah, hard disagree with large size. For large size not only you have to be 5-dimensional, you should also have the volume and the size of a 5-dimensional spatial structure, but they are only human-sized higher dimensional being.

Just as there are extra axes, these axes must also be infinite

This crt isn't about the Contumelia having large size. It's about them having Immeasurable lifting strength.

 

[Georredannea15]

This crt isn't about the Contumelia having large size. It's about them having Immeasurable lifting strength.

So basically what is immeasurable strengh based on? On the large size that they has?

If they have type 9 or type 10 large size in their profile, yes, this is acceptable but in fact, it should be removed. Maybe I can make a thread about this

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

So basically what is immeasurable strengh based on? On the large size that they has?

If they have type 9 or type 10 large size in their profile, yes, this is acceptable but in fact, it should be removed. Maybe I can make a thread about this

The large size isn't really necessary for them to qualify for immeasurable lifting strength as lifting higher dimensions is still valid for immeasurable lifting strength.

Do you agree on the Celestialsapiens having immeasurable lifting strength.

 

[Dragonite007]

Yeah, hard disagree with large size. For large size not only you have to be 5-dimensional, you should also have the volume and the size of a 5-dimensional spatial structure, but they are only human-sized higher dimensional being.

Just as there are extra axes, these axes must also should be infinite or universal sized

Finally! Someone who knows

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Finally! Someone who knows

So basically what is immeasurable strengh based on? On the large size that they has?

If they have type 9 or type 10 large size in their profile, yes, this is acceptable but in fact, it should be removed. Maybe I can make a thread about this

Do you agree with Alien X and the Celestialsapiens qualifying for immeasurable lifting due to recreating and moving Legerdomain and the rest of the Universe?

 

[Georredannea15]

Do you agree with Alien X and the Celestialsapiens qualifying for immeasurable lifting due to recreating and moving Legerdomain and the rest of the Universe?

Btw that's not true either, immeasurable lifting strengh is basically directly proportional to the energy you have, but a human sized 5 dimensional being doesn't really scale to the energy brought by the universal or infinite 5 dimensional volume.

But if they really lifted the universe, then yes I agree.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Btw that's not true either, immeasurable lifting strengh is basically directly proportional to the energy you have, but a human sized 5 dimensional being doesn't really scale to the energy brought by the universal or infinite 5 dimensional volume.

But if they really lifted the universe, then yes I agagree.

Alien X lifted the universe including Legerdomain and the Universe's spacetime continuum. So you agree for Celestialsapiens but not for the Contumelia.

 

[Georredannea15]

Alien X lifted the universe including Legerdomain and the Universe's spacetime continuum. So you agree for Celestialsapiens but not for the Contumelia.

Yeah.

 

[Gendolfgg1]

um, yes, it's obvious, I agree with the two updates (it's strange that it wasn't added earlier)

 

[Gendolfgg1]

Yeah.

For contumelia, three-dimensional space is a fiction. why shouldn't they have immeasurable lift, if for them infinite mass is a fiction? I think about this logic. But the arguments in favor of Alien X, of course, are more weighty in any case.

 

[Georredannea15]

For contumelia, three-dimensional space is a fiction. why shouldn't they have immeasurable lift, if for them infinite mass is a fiction? I think about this logic. But the arguments in favor of Alien X, of course, are more weighty in any case.

Ben10 has no R>F, they are just higher dimensional beings. Both are different

 

[LordGriffin1000]

The Annhilarrgh can destroy an entire multiverse and Alien X recreated it and moved it from his body as shown here.

Not really up for tackling the other stuff at the moment but this is not justification for Immeasurable lifting strength. The Annhilarrgh doesn't have Immeasurable weight, it's just a device that can destroy the universe.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

1.The Contumelia have immeasurable lifting strength.

The Contumelia are 5th dimensional beings and thus have Large size (Type 10), this is shown on their page, which already makes them infinitely superior to any 3 dimensional space, and thus exceeding basic infinite mass as the wiki indicates. They are seen walking around able to effortlessly supporting their own mass in their appearance.

There's no evidence for them actually being larger then Multiverses or being close to one. Disagree

Alien X could also effortlessly move multiple infinite masses across the infinite universe. But I'd like to argue that Alien X also moved alternate spaces that are in the Universe. Like the Null Void, an extradimensional pocket dimension that goes on forever(skip to 17:00) and Legerdomain, a alternate dimension made of multi-dimensional mana inside the universe with it's own space-time continuum.(It was even stated by Paradox that Ben also recreated time when he recreated the universe). Starbeard stated that Ben with his Celestialsapien form recreated 'the universe' and everything in it.

This is fine, but it should be mentioned that this is via Telekinesis.

There is also the argument that Alien X affected not just a singular dimension/timeline. Alien X also recreated Mad Ben's alternative dimension as shown by the Mr. Smoothly logo change in the background.

The Annhilarrgh can destroy an entire multiverse and Alien X recreated it and moved it from his body as shown here.

This doesn't really change anything.

 

[NXCHT.66]

Alien X and Celestialsapiens have Immeasurable Lifting Strength via Telekinesis seem okay.

 

[NXCHT.66]

Not really up for tackling the other stuff at the moment but this is not justification for Immeasurable lifting strength. The Annhilarrgh doesn't have Immeasurable weight, it's just a device that can destroy the universe.

I think @Celestial_Scaler25 wanted to say that. after the universe was destroyed by Annihilarrgh. then Alien X recreated it and moved it. (it means universe)

I guess Alien X and Celestialsapiens have Immeasurable Lifting Strength via Telekinesis seem okay. because Alien X and Celestialsapiens already has telekinesis in their profile.

 

[Gendolfgg1]

Ben10 has no R>F, they are just higher dimensional beings. Both are different

I'm not talking about authorship, but about hierarchy. For a three-dimensional being, for example, two-dimensional space is a fiction.

 

[Gendolfgg1]

Although I have already opened thread on topic 1A for Alien X, but it was closed before we had time to discuss it properly.

 

[Georredannea15]

I'm not talking about authorship, but about hierarchy. For a three-dimensional being, for example, two-dimensional space is a fiction.

A 3-dimensional being doesn't see the 2nd dimension as a fiction, it sees like a "flat plane" because it has a lower axis and these two are fundamentally different things. But there's not much point in discussing it here

 

[Hellformer]

They aren't bigger than a multiverse, they are literally human-sized, having a additional extradimensional axis don't mean that automatically you're bigger than a standard multiverse. They're characters with HDE that has Small Size

This is the reason why Contumelias have Large Size type 10 (This explanation wasn't given by me):
The Contumelia are 5D beings and in the interpretation that hypertimelines exist within the verse, they would be of significant size in those 5 dimensions. Why? Let's assume that they are not of significant size within one of these dimensions and introduce a new compactified dimension named y for the Contumelia to extend through. This compactified dimension y then introduces a new direction for things to move in. The Omniversal Force now extends infinitely across this direction. Since the Omniversal Force needs space and time to exist, the dimension itself also extends infinitely. We have now reached a contradiction since the dimension y can not be compactified and infinite at the same time. Thus our proposition that "the Contumelia are not of significant size in one of these dimensions" is false

 

[Dragonite007]

This is the reason why Contumelias have Large Size type 10 (This explanation wasn't given by me):
The Contumelia are 5D beings and in the interpretation that hypertimelines exist within the verse, they would be of significant size in those 5 dimensions. Why? Let's assume that they are not of significant size within one of these dimensions and introduce a new compactified dimension named y for the Contumelia to extend through. This compactified dimension y then introduces a new direction for things to move in. The Omniversal Force now extends infinitely across this direction. Since the Omniversal Force needs space and time to exist, the dimension itself also extends infinitely. We have now reached a contradiction since the dimension y can not be compactified and infinite at the same time. Thus our proposition that "the Contumelia are not of significant size in one of these dimensions" is false

What? Do you know that can exist non-infinity sized beings in high dimensions, right? The Omniversal Force don't have nothing to do with the contumelia

Its like saying that humans are Universal sized, because the universe is that big, their ship (The place where's they live, create things and protect themselfs) is not even town sized.

 

[Dragonite007]

This is the reason why Contumelias have Large Size type 10 (This explanation wasn't given by me):
The Contumelia are 5D beings and in the interpretation that hypertimelines exist within the verse, they would be of significant size in those 5 dimensions. Why? Let's assume that they are not of significant size within one of these dimensions and introduce a new compactified dimension named y for the Contumelia to extend through. This compactified dimension y then introduces a new direction for things to move in. The Omniversal Force now extends infinitely across this direction. Since the Omniversal Force needs space and time to exist, the dimension itself also extends infinitely. We have now reached a contradiction since the dimension y can not be compactified and infinite at the same time. Thus our proposition that "the Contumelia are not of significant size in one of these dimensions" is false

Also the reason for they Large Size is just: "Large Size (Type 10; Contumelias are 5th dimensional beings)"

 

[Hellformer]

What? Do you know that can exist non-infinity sized beings in high dimensions, right? The Omniversal Force don't have nothing to do with the contumelia

Its like saying that humans are Universal sized, because the universe is that big, their ship (The place where's they live, create things and protect themselfs) is not even town sized.

As I said, this explanation wasn't given by me so kindly discuss it with greenshifter

 

[Dragonite007]

As I said, this explanation wasn't given by me so kindly discuss it with greenshifter

"Greenshifter". Well, I discovered the problem... Anyway, leave this fodder behind, If you want a explanation about Ben 10 ask @Reiner04