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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

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A bunch of philosophical Absolutes (Nirvana, The Good, the Ein Sof, Taiji/Wuji) would qualify, but nonduality or Divine Simplicity aren't prerequisites for something to be considered an Absolute so not always.

That being said, the qualities of complete, eternal self-sufficiency combined with a state of perfection would be 1-A for a lot of possible definitions of what the "perfection" in question is.
 
Yasuda_144 said:
A bunch of philosophical Absolutes (Nirvana, The Good, the Ein Sof, Taiji/Wuji) would qualify, but nonduality or Divine Simplicity aren't prerequisites for something to be considered an Absolute so not always.
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Nirvana isn't the absolute in all interpretations. In Chinese mythology, Wuji/Taji spawns from Dao/Tao. Non-duality and Divine Simplicity aren't needed per se, but they help a lot.
Yasuda_144 said:
That being said, the qualities of complete, eternal self-sufficiency combined with a state of perfection would be 1-A for a lot of possible definitions of what the "perfection" in question is.
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Yes.
 
VeryGoofyToddler said:
irvana isn't the absolute in all interpretations. In Chinese mythology, Wuji/Taji spawns from Dao/Tao. Non-duality and Divine Simplicity aren't needed per se, but they help a lot.
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Wuji and Taiji would be the Tao itself, tho.

Wuji is the unmanifested part of the Tao while the Taiji is the manifested one.
 
Ain't sof also isn't the absolute, that would be Atzmuts.

Ain sof = no end/infinity

Atzmuts = divine essence beyond infinity
 
It's here to have general talk about this topic. There's the hub, but that's specifically for talking about verses that are getting revised.
 
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So no, right?
I checked out from DC and Marvel for a while now so I genuinely wouldn't know.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
In the simplest of terms, can someone explain what are the three laws of thought?
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1. Law of Identity: An object is what it is.
2. Law of non-contradiction: A cannot be both A and B. The opposite, however, Law of Contradiction can indeed be both true and non-true.
2. Law of the excluded middle: Every statement is either true or false; there's nothing in between.
 
Oh boy, new tiering system is complete shitshow, I need to spend another year understand this one, just as former version.
 
If it's hard to understand and you don't get any entertainment from trying to understand it, then just don't and just stick to the tiers and series you do understand. This ain't compulsory education, their are no tests or grades here.
 
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If it's hard to understand and you don't get any entertainment from trying to understand it, then just don't and just stick to the tiers and series you do understand. This ain't compulsory education, their are no tests or grades here.
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Why are you mad? I just stated my opinion about this thing. Of course I'm doing this for entertainment, powerscaling IS for entertainment. If you can explain me 1A and High 1A then go on.
 
I sounded mad? I'm saying just have fun and don't care about anything beyond that, if you find understanding 1-A a chore then just don't do it. Well beyond following the rules of course.

Anyway, 1-A is for stuff that is equivalent to a higher reality seeing a lower reality as fiction, 1-A+ is made of an infinite hierarchy of higher realities seeing lower ones as fictions, while High 1-A is an even higher reality that sees not just a lower reality, but the entire 1-A hierarchy as equivalent to fictional.

Theirs some more nuance and rules of what does and doesn't qualify, but this is the basic explanation of how things work.
 
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