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Characters with guns should get a "higher" rating for them instead of "9-C to 9-B" and speaking of guns, Gunpowder should have Marksmanship listed on his profile with the justification being that crazy ricoshot he pulled off against Billy.
The guns are normal, real life guns, no reason for them to be higher.
And Gunpower has Weapon Mastery, I never explained the ability because it's mixed explained in his enhanced sight and his intelligence, but I guess it could be repeated again
The guns are normal, real life guns, no reason for them to be higher.
And Gunpower has Weapon Mastery, I never explained the ability because it's mixed explained in his enhanced sight and his intelligence, but I guess it could be repeated again
They can consistently pose a large threat to the low tier 9-B characters like human members of the Boys. I know that piercing damage exists but the fact that they're always treated as fatally dangerous even when they should realistically have much lower AP compared to the durability of the characters means they should be higher. Would also make more sense for them to be able to damage some mid tier Supes.
They can consistently pose a large threat to the low tier 9-B characters like human members of the Boys. I know that piercing damage exists but the fact that they're always treated as fatally dangerous even when they should realistically have much lower AP compared to the durability of the characters means they should be higher. Would also make more sense for them to be able to damage some mid tier Supes.
They are a threat to the 9-B guys because they are meant to be "normal humans". And while I always has issues with the whole "if the weapons damages them, it scales to them" if they are higher than 9-C, for this verse specifically the argument just doesn't hold grounds at all. We have a very clearly distinction for when a supe is bulletproof and isn't (except when they are simply not shown).
The only weird one I would say is Annie getting downed by a .50 round to the chest. Best guess is that either by S1 they wanted supes to be more "grounded" or it was a little bit of underestimating how powerful they made them.
I could maaaayyyybbeee see an argument there for the .50 caliber and metamaterial bullets in the show but that's it (and it would be under piercing damage)
Considering how Frenchie wasn't sure a metamaterial dart could even pierce Neuman in soft tissue, I doubt the most invincible supe would should logically affected by a metal straw... And again, Frenchie needed a diamond saw for Annie. Homelander getting hurt by anything like that is just dumb
If at least it was Maeve's sword, and her sword was made of the same material as Soldier Boy's shield or the carbon metamaterial, maayybbee it could make sense, but otherwise, no. Just P.I.S.
So, yeah, imo, the .50 caliber and metamaterial rounds could downscales from the 9-A/8-C characters (as piercing damage). Still doubtful of that rating, but at least there's some basis. Any other weapons shouldn't be higher 9-C or 9-B (except the 9-A rpgs)
If at least it was Maeve's sword, and her sword was made of the same material as Soldier Boy's shield or the carbon metamaterial, maayybbee it could make sense, but otherwise, no. Just P.I.S.
Considering how Frenchie wasn't sure a metamaterial dart could even pierce Neuman in soft tissue, I doubt the most invincible supe would should logically affected by a metal straw... And again, Frenchie needed a diamond saw for Annie. Homelander getting hurt by anything like that is just dumb
Then he would be less invulnerable than Soldier Boy. Also, Frenchie wasn't sure metamaterial could pierce Neuman's soft tissue, so HL should be far above that
Just saw The Boys Season 4 Episode 7.
Gonna post my thoughts.
The puppet show thing (Avenue V) reminds me as much of Sesame Street as Avenue Q, if not moreso Avenue Q then not. Broadway fans in the showmakers? (This does have musicals & Vaught on Ice....)
Is the implication meant to be that with Serge's help, they can make the virus better than what Samir made? Or Frenchie's work alone on Samir's progress without Samir's help will improve it or something?
The shapeshifter.... Other than an assassination plan, how did they find her? Had said shapeshifter just locked themselves up (Or made it looked like that.) to lure in The Boys specifically?!
Homelander being a moron with what he said to Ryan, & leaving it on the answering machine, no less. Also, I wonder if he'll discover the photo Ryan received.
The Deep & Black Noir vs Starlight & Willy was a decent fight by this show's standards.
Shameful of The Deep that Staright beat him. Is she weakened or strengthened or anything at that time?
I had honestly forgotten Black Noir -Or whoever's impersonating him. Was that a thing?- is narcoleptic, apparently.
Kind of shameful of Deep to kill a sea creature, which he supposedly cares for... but then again, it was causing him conflict & compromising what he could do, I think, plus, the less of that drama I have to see, the better.
So, why exactly did Homelander have Sage not try to find The Leak when she volunteered?
Homelander & Firecracker were morons again, killing Webweaver. Kinda unnecessary, & who knows, maybe they could've accomplished something with some forensics workers or better interrogators or psychologists.
& further idiocy with Homelander firing Sister Sage. Even if she did break his "no secrets rule" & by hiding that she knew A-Train was the leak (Supposedly; She told them she did after they mentioned within earshot of her that it was A-Train.), & she had already been a liability with her self-impairing habits, involuntarily compromising the meeting in episode 6.... Not to mention her silence getting Webweaver killed.
Plus, haven't others indirectly died from Sister Sage because of Homelander killing those he didn't know were the leak because Sage didn't tell him for her "plan"?
What has her plan accomplished?!
& what does Homelander expect, sending away someone with that much intel on him? Is he waiting to get betrayed?!
Wondering if Willy's plot will finally go somewhere interesting now that his impediment knocked him unconscious.
Surprising that Starlight can break pillars partially -Based on the fight-, but not break the chains she ended up in at the end of the episode.
Anyone have any thing to say on these matters? I'm quite interested in discussing it currently.
Oh & also (How did I nearly forget this?!) this: Why didn't Black Noir just kill Starlight &/or Willy? Sure he was outnumbered, but he seemed nigh-bulletproof, knockback aside, & powerful enough.
When he was knocked back & fell out the window, was he not just clumsily faking getting defeated so that he could fly away to make an escape? Did he actually get knocked out by bullets, wake up, then go to Homelander off-screen & report who The Leak was?
Worry about narcolepsy, even though he just had it & got over it? Is it that frequent?!
Oh & also (How did I nearly forget this?!) this: Why didn't Black Noir just kill Starlight &/or Willy? Sure he was outnumbered, but he seemed nigh-bulletproof, knockback aside, & powerful enough.
When he was knocked back & fell out the window, was he not just clumsily faking getting defeated so that he could fly away to make an escape? Did he actually get knocked out by bullets, wake up, then go to Homelander off-screen & report who The Leak was?
Worry about narcolepsy, even though he just had it & got over it? Is it that frequent?!
So he got knockbacked & knocked out? Also, should I assume you plan to respond to my other comments on this episode in the post of mine above the one you responded to?
Sorry for any bother at all.
Oh & also (How did I nearly forget this?!) this: Why didn't Black Noir just kill Starlight &/or Willy? Sure he was outnumbered, but he seemed nigh-bulletproof, knockback aside, & powerful enough.
When he was knocked back & fell out the window, was he not just clumsily faking getting defeated so that he could fly away to make an escape? Did he actually get knocked out by bullets, wake up, then go to Homelander off-screen & report who The Leak was?
Worry about narcolepsy, even though he just had it & got over it? Is it that frequent?!
Some people say because no one knows that OG Noir died, he couldn't fly back up and be seen lol, and that he also simply let himself fall to the ground
Some people say because no one knows that OG Noir died, he couldn't fly back up and be seen lol, and that he also simply let himself fall to the ground
"Some people say"? Like, fans, not in-universe?
Are you telling me they drop this & then Black Noir is inconsequential for the finale? I swear to goodness, if so....
Okay, so I was wrong about this. It was Neuman who performed the feat and she didn't even rip the guy's jaw off but just made it explode. I got the memory of a goldfish.
Okay, so I was wrong about this. It was Neuman who performed the feat and she didn't even rip the guy's jaw off but just made it explode. I got the memory of a goldfish.
Just saw The Boys Season 4 Episode 7.
Gonna post my thoughts.
The puppet show thing (Avenue V) reminds me as much of Sesame Street as Avenue Q, if not moreso Avenue Q then not. Broadway fans in the showmakers? (This does have musicals & Vaught on Ice....)
Is the implication meant to be that with Serge's help, they can make the virus better than what Samir made? Or Frenchie's work alone on Samir's progress without Samir's help will improve it or something?
The shapeshifter.... Other than an assassination plan, how did they find her? Had said shapeshifter just locked themselves up (Or made it looked like that.) to lure in The Boys specifically?!
Homelander being a moron with what he said to Ryan, & leaving it on the answering machine, no less. Also, I wonder if he'll discover the photo Ryan received.
The Deep & Black Noir vs Starlight & Willy was a decent fight by this show's standards.
Shameful of The Deep that Staright beat him. Is she weakened or strengthened or anything at that time?
I had honestly forgotten Black Noir -Or whoever's impersonating him. Was that a thing?- is narcoleptic, apparently.
Kind of shameful of Deep to kill a sea creature, which he supposedly cares for... but then again, it was causing him conflict & compromising what he could do, I think, plus, the less of that drama I have to see, the better.
So, why exactly did Homelander have Sage not try to find The Leak when she volunteered?
Homelander & Firecracker were morons again, killing Webweaver. Kinda unnecessary, & who knows, maybe they could've accomplished something with some forensics workers or better interrogators or psychologists.
& further idiocy with Homelander firing Sister Sage. Even if she did break his "no secrets rule" & by hiding that she knew A-Train was the leak (Supposedly; She told them she did after they mentioned within earshot of her that it was A-Train.), & she had already been a liability with her self-impairing habits, involuntarily compromising the meeting in episode 6.... Not to mention her silence getting Webweaver killed.
Plus, haven't others indirectly died from Sister Sage because of Homelander killing those he didn't know were the leak because Sage didn't tell him for her "plan"?
What has her plan accomplished?!
& what does Homelander expect, sending away someone with that much intel on him? Is he waiting to get betrayed?!
Wondering if Willy's plot will finally go somewhere interesting now that his impediment knocked him unconscious.
Surprising that Starlight can break pillars partially -Based on the fight-, but not break the chains she ended up in at the end of the episode.
Anyone have any thing to say on these matters? I'm quite interested in discussing it currently.
Re-bringing up stuff from that post. Apologies if anyone minds.
Is the implication meant to be that with Serge's help, they can make the virus better than what Samir made? Or Frenchie's work alone on Samir's progress without Samir's help will improve it or something?
The shapeshifter.... Other than an assassination plan, how did they find her? Had said shapeshifter just locked themselves up (Or made it looked like that.) to lure in The Boys specifically?!
Homelander being a moron with what he said to Ryan, & leaving it on the answering machine, no less. Also, I wonder if he'll discover the photo Ryan received.
Shameful of The Deep that Staright beat him. Is she weakened or strengthened or anything at that time?
So, why exactly did Homelander have Sage not try to find The Leak when she volunteered?
Homelander & Firecracker were morons again, killing Webweaver. Kinda unnecessary, & who knows, maybe they could've accomplished something with some forensics workers or better interrogators or psychologists.
& further idiocy with Homelander firing Sister Sage. Even if she did break his "no secrets rule" & by hiding that she knew A-Train was the leak (Supposedly; She told them she did after they mentioned within earshot of her that it was A-Train.), & she had already been a liability with her self-impairing habits, involuntarily compromising the meeting in episode 6.... Not to mention her silence getting Webweaver killed.
Plus, haven't others indirectly died from Sister Sage because of Homelander killing those he didn't know were the leak because Sage didn't tell him for her "plan"?
What has her plan accomplished?!
& what does Homelander expect, sending away someone with that much intel on him? Is he waiting to get betrayed?!
Wondering if Willy's plot will finally go somewhere interesting now that his impediment knocked him unconscious.
Surprising that Starlight can break pillars partially -Based on the fight-, but not break the chains she ended up in at the end of the episode.
Anyone have anything to bring up on these matters, if I may ask, please?
Is the implication meant to be that with Serge's help, they can make the virus better than what Samir made? Or Frenchie's work alone on Samir's progress without Samir's help will improve it or something?
Butcher believed there was a way for Frenchie to make the virus work on HL without causing a pandemic. But idk if he succeeded. All we know is that he at least extracted the virus. Maybe he did though? Either that or Butcher reallt wants to cause a genocide
The shapeshifter.... Other than an assassination plan, how did they find her? Had said shapeshifter just locked themselves up (Or made it looked like that.) to lure in The Boys specifically?!
Sage got that "I read the script" intelligence level lol. Nah, at the end of the episode she says she knew A-Train was the leak and let him. So she likely knew the boys would go after the shapeshifter.
Plus, haven't others indirectly died from Sister Sage because of Homelander killing those he didn't know were the leak because Sage didn't tell him for her "plan"?
What has her plan accomplished?!
Besides weaver, they killed humans, and she hates them, so not like she would care. Heck, even weaver's dead is non-consequential for her. He is a low life in her eyes.
Oh, yeah. I already forgot what was the point of the discussion lol
But basically what I was going for is that the weapons in this verse shouldn't receive an upgrade (only exception are maybe .50 cal and metamaterial rounds' piercing damage, but even then I'm not sure)
I'd like to think he could have accomplished more.
Also, if Starlight having help from... I think it was Willy & Marvin in that fight against The Deep? Anyway, if their help mattered, then I'd be skeptical it's that big a difference.
Like, The Deep has superhuman strength outside of water, & some martial arts training, IIRC, right? But apparently those can't even stand up to Starlight.
Besides weaver, they killed humans, and she hates them, so not like she would care. Heck, even weaver's dead is non-consequential for her. He is a low life in her eyes.
I'd like to think he could have accomplished more.
Also, if Starlight having help from... I think it was Willy & Marvin in that fight against The Deep? Anyway, if their help mattered, then I'd be skeptical it's that big a difference.
Like, The Deep has superhuman strength outside of water, & some martial arts training, IIRC, right? But apparently those can't even stand up to Starlight.
The Deep was winning pretty handily before A-Train showed up, and only really got overwhelmed by Annie after getting disoriented by both A-Train’s punches and Annie sticking her fingers up his gills. I’d say he did pretty well all things considered.
Nah Deep winning aganist Starlight before A-Train interrupted the fight is a debate now? He was definitely winning before he came lol. It was a one sided fight even.
Like, The Deep has superhuman strength outside of water, & some martial arts training, IIRC, right? But apparently those can't even stand up to Starlight.
Nah Deep winning aganist Starlight before A-Train interrupted the fight is a debate now? He was definitely winning before he came lol. It was a one sided fight even.
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