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I put it in the evaluation thread. I don't know what else to do.The calc was still not accepted?
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I put it in the evaluation thread. I don't know what else to do.The calc was still not accepted?
Find some CGMs who don't mind and ask them to evaluate it on their wall. @Dalesean027 might be willing to take a look.I put it in the evaluation thread. I don't know what else to do.
If you could do that, that would be great. I'm not on the wiki a bunch and I am unfamiliar with the messaging system besides threads so I would rather leave the reaching out to Admins to someone who cares more than me about getting the calculation accepted.Find some CGMs who don't mind and ask them to evaluate it on their wall. @Dalesean027 might be willing to take a look.
So, assuming is at least kinda loke Sun-Hee's tumor, it seems cancerous tumors just becomes sentient and evil when compound V is injected, but my guess is that because in Billy's case is a brain tumor, is uses Billy's own evil side to its advantage?So, Billy's tumor... did I understand right, or is his superpower "Super strength tentacles but only when willing to murder supepowered targets"?
His pubic hair lol, it's shown in Ep 1. He is disgusted that he ages.What was in that jar Homelander expressed disgust at? Dried webbing or something?
They probably just touched the teacher by accident and also unconsciously activated their powers?How the Shapeshifter works is neat. With the way she phrased her backstory, I wonder if her first time copying someone was without contact; She spoke nostalgically about that event of copying her teacher, & I'd think that any circumstances where one could do that, it'd be noticed. Did she only get the memories without the appearance that time?
Hughie*Interesting of Billy to trust his dying steakhouse wish to Huey. Character development? Does he think Huey is somehow 1 of the more reliable members? (He's at least got a good moral compass, IMHO)
She has super strength, so she probably thought of killing the man with that, but because of the meds f*cking her heart over, she switched to her pistol.It was also amusing seeing her utter something about "Enough running" & then switch to a gun. Was the implication she wanted to get in range to spark in their face, but got so worn out following a regular human that she switched to a firearm in desperation?
Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought the shapeshifter had an pendrive or something that they plugged in and screw Hughie's laptopDid The Shapeshifter use their time together to copy-on-contact Huey's memories of his PC password, go into his file systems. & delete them? Did he share the password with Starlight for some reason?
I think Noir II was either using a hyperbole, or just a lazy excuse for him to fail killing the actual AshleyDuring the taking out the list: I wonder would Homelander care about contract payments owed? & also, why are there apparently so many ladies named Ashley there?
Five, you counted Firecracker twice lolSo, with Firecracker, Homelander, The Deep, Black Noir, Firecracker, & Sister Sage.... The Seven will be six entering Season 5? (Unless we count Ryan, lol.)
No, probably when Hughie and MM folded immediately when the shapeshifter approached them lolAlso, during the water-grabbing scene, did she know they suspected her?
Also, I'd forgotten that Starlight is bulletproof
The shapeshifter has Annie's memories, but that's it, nothing else from her. And even then, having someone's memories doesn't make you an expert on what you see (specially when you don't use their skill-related memories)Stamina/Skill feat: Starlight beat an opponent with her memories, physique & superhuman physical characteristics powers, primarily using her hands/fist despite that Starlight's wrists were purposefully mutilated (To escape the cuffs.) & she was seemingly malnourished, injured & tired? Or just Plot-Induced Stupidity, since they had to get the Shapeshifter (seemingly) dead?
Kimiko's regen takes as long as the scene needs.Not to mention Kimiko just getting up with her neck righted as soon as Starlight's done. Was she able to do that & just didn't feel like jumping in to help?
I'll let you guessThat's probably been analyzed already. Homelander is more durable than Vicky, right?
I think he was in control, but more incline to work with kessler. I think if Kessler was in full control he wouldn't spare Zoe or even Kimiko and Annie.I do wonder. When Billy showed up to deal with Vicky, was he in full control, or was it like when he was unconscious & tore apart the stretchy guy without remembering it? He was speaking at least, but should he remember it?
She meant the part of getting rid of Neuman and Singer. She had plans for both, but thanks to the boys, she skipped that and got (close enough) results.I'm a little incredulous that what happened was part of Sister Sage's plan. She planned for the actions of an underground radical group she presumably doesn't know the identites of, among other details leading to the eliminations of the presidential candidates? Was herself getting shot to be temporarily incapable part of this plan?! Getting (seemingly temporarily) removed from The Seven?
Sister Sage cared about Homelander trusting her? For all her apparent bitterness & apathy?
S2E6, her name is Cindy c:The ending, with martial law & deputized superheroes was kind of neat. I wonder who dropped the boat near Huey. Was that from Not-Eleven-From-Stranger-Things, who also seems to have some kind of... ferrokinesis? (Might be useful to take out electrical things that Starlight can get power from, but surely the showmakers wouldn't be creative like that, would they...?)
S3E8, he is drugged up, likely in Novichok.&.... That's Soldier Boy in some kind of stasis?
What a specific side-effect, lol. "Warning: Will cause your tumors to become sentient & evil."So, assuming is at least kinda loke Sun-Hee's tumor, it seems cancerous tumors just becomes sentient and evil when compound V is injected, but my guess is that because in Billy's case is a brain tumor, is uses Billy's own evil side to its advantage?
Shameful of me as it may be to say, I do think it's quite tragic & pitiful for a being that fancies itself a deity to know it must age.His pubic hair lol, it's shown in Ep 1. He is disgusted that he ages.
I do apologize if you mind my terminology for him. I am often rather callous towards his character, in part because he is not a superpowered being. I take more interest in superpowered characters, & "Huey" & "Hughie" are homonyms, but the former takes fewer characters to type.Hughie*
Forgive my asking, please, but she has super-strength?She has super strength, so she probably thought of killing the man with that, but because of the meds f*cking her heart over, she switched to her pistol.
You're a very dedicated fan & I often don't trust my own memory, so I'll trust your memory until further notice. Could check a summary or something.Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought the shapeshifter had an pendrive or something that they plugged in and screw Hughie's laptop
Argh, facepalm at my self. In my defense, I'd been very tired. Been up a while, even fell asleep for a short period of time, around an hour & a half ago. Thankfully, that seems to have left me more awake now.Five, you counted Firecracker twice lol
But it is indeed evident that the shapeshifter noticed their suspicion of her?No, probably when Hughie and MM folded immediately when the shapeshifter approached them lol
I don't recall much evidence of that, although admittedly, I wasn't looking for bullet trails during scenes like when she was rushing down a staircase while discarding her... "worn-out disguise".And, yeah, Annie is bulletproof, but I don't think the shapeshifter got that from her, theu probably are naturally bulletproof.
How do we know? The personality is evidently different, but both are super-durable, & Starlight lacked her powers at the time, no?The shapeshifter has Annie's memories, but that's it, nothing else from her.
True.And even then, having someone's memories doesn't make you an expert on what you see
But that's the evidence of this? Could it be called PIS that she didn't use Starlight's skills?(specially when you don't use their skill-related memories)
Had we seen that her wrists healed after escaping? When? Were they still damaged during the fight?While it is an stamina (and regen) feat, I also think it's to an extent a little P.I.S., specially since Kimiko got one shotted lol.
Lol, IKR? Agreed.Annie isn't stronger than her, wtf show
Writers really were flying by the seat of their pants this season, no?Kimiko's regen takes as long as the scene needs.
Uhhh.... Well, although Homelander's heat vision -His main weapon- is sometimes shown to be oddly percussive, AFAIK, heat has its own kind of durability/resistance scaling based on temperature compared to physicals.I'll let you guess
Understandable.I think he was in control, but more incline to work with kessler. I think if Kessler was in full control he wouldn't spare Zoe or even Kimiko and Annie.
Yeah, but didn't Singer's confession happen because of his time with The Boys or such, or is my memory wrong?She meant the part of getting rid of Neuman and Singer. She had plans for both, but thanks to the boys, she skipped that and got (close enough) results.
Ah, thank you very much!S2E6, her name is Cindy c:
Thank you very much for this as well!S3E8, he is drugged up, likely in Novichok.
I know lol. They should sue VoughtWhat a specific side-effect, lol. "Warning: Will cause your tumors to become sentient & evil."
She says so herself, and then she briefly fights KimikoForgive my asking, please, but she has super-strength?
It's okay mateBeen up a while, even fell asleep for a short period of time, around an hour & a half ago. Thankfully, that seems to have left me more awake now.
I mean, if they Shapeshifter copies the physicals of who they touch, then either that woman was a supe or idk how they restrained Annie lolHow do we know? The personality is evidently different, but both are super-durable, & Starlight lacked her powers at the time, no?
Nah, I just think the shifter gets access to the memories, but that's doesn't mean they learned what she can do. Also, against Kimiko and Annie she just wanted to bite then lolBut that's the evidence of this? Could it be called PIS that she didn't use Starlight's skills?
I think she was healed at the end, but maybe I'm wrongHad we seen that her wrists healed after escaping? When? Were they still damaged during the fight?
Homelander is the strongest supe, so, yeah, but default he upscales from everyone.So.... Homelander is more durable than Vicky Neuman??
That's my guess. How off the mark am I, if I may ask?
Yeah, that's the only BS to me. Why was the shifter filming?Yeah, but didn't Singer's confession happen because of his time with The Boys or such, or is my memory wrong?
I mean Neuman dying earlier. She probably wanted to get rid of her after the elections, but now thanks to Butcher it was faster.Also, close enough? What was off? Web Weaver dying?
I don't think it's honestly impressive, but maybe I remember the scene wrong.I assume you've nothing to say on matters like the Ryan stuff? (Such as him intercepting Grace's button bashing.)
Ah, my bad.She says so herself, and then she briefly fights Kimiko
Makes sense.I mean, if they Shapeshifter copies the physicals of who they touch, then either that woman was a supe or idk how they restrained Annie lol
I'm not sure either, sadly.I think she was healed at the end, but maybe I'm wrong
Even moreso than the superpowered Black Noir & Soldier Boy?Homelander is the strongest supe, so, yeah, but default he upscales from everyone.
Wasn't she hired by someone?Yeah, that's the only BS to me. Why was the shifter filming?
Fair enough.I don't think it's honestly impressive, but maybe I remember the scene wrong.
Yes, Soldier Boy is just "nearly" as strong as HomelanderEven moreso than the superpowered Black Noir & Soldier Boy?
Yes, by Sage. But still, I would've loved if she at least hinted that the shifter had a camWasn't she hired by someone?
Also, she was spying. But yeah, I guess it would be strange. You'd think The Boys would be concerned if she was filming.
Wasn't there something about Black Noir being meant as Homelander 2.0?Yes, Soldier Boy is just "nearly" as strong as Homelander
And Noir is nowhere near as strong as him.
Such a thing is strange to omit, even if Sage did even have her own multi-faceted menagerie of machinations, apparently, lol.Yes, by Sage. But still, I would've loved if she at least hinted that the shifter had a cam
Comics exclusiveWasn't there something about Black Noir being meant as Homelander 2.0?
Was that because genetics in The Boys decided to exhibit a sense of drama & require sacrifice power to make Noir more controllable & less volatile compared to Homelander?
It was accepted I think.I put it in the evaluation thread. I don't know what else to do.
Not by a CGM though.It was accepted I think.
The person that commented doesn't seem to be a calc group member, at least I don't see the tagIt was accepted I think.
That link takes me to an Imgur "The requested page could not be found." error.Oh boy, this frame in the Diabolical Ep 8
Holy hell do i hate Imgur, it works for me, especially it is a frame right before the Tanker explodes, not only showing Homelander standing further away from it, but it's also far smaller than 10 m, I calced it to be 6.356 mThat link takes me to an Imgur "The requested page could not be found." error.
Did Imgur take it down? Are Gallery links weird? Region-locking? Spelling mistake? Something else?
Could you reupload it somewhere, please?Holy hell do i hate Imgur, it works for me, especially it is a frame right before the Tanker explodes, not only showing Homelander standing further away from it, but it's also far smaller than 10 m, I calced it to be 6.356 m
I posted it in the 8-A calc as a replyCould you reupload it somewhere, please?
Like Postimg?
No it's not an upgrade bro.... I calced it quickly and it's a giant slash to the AP and DC, explosion itself is 92.52 Tons but with how far Homelander stands I am afraid he is going down into Large Building levelGreat, an even more accurate calculation and potentially an upgrade!
Ain't no way...No it's not an upgrade bro.... I calced it quickly and it's a giant slash to the AP and DC, explosion itself is 92.52 Tons but with how far Homelander stands I am afraid he is going down into Large Building level
Oh yeah, that frame, tbh, I always wonder why that one was never used for the calcOh boy, this frame in the Diabolical Ep 8
The explosion ain't 92.52 tons dudeNo it's not an upgrade bro.... I calced it quickly and it's a giant slash to the AP and DC, explosion itself is 92.52 Tons but with how far Homelander stands I am afraid he is going down into Large Building level
Due to us now being able to compare the guy being cut to the Tanker directly, it's downgraded from 10 to 6-7 m, and with that entire explosion radius is reducedOh yeah, that frame, tbh, I always wonder why that one was never used for the calc
I do hope the calc doesn't go down that much though. The explosion is still 754+ tons of TNT, so it should still be 8-A
The explosion ain't 92.52 tons dude
I mean, does it? The dude is cut shortly below the neck and we don't know his height, so the ladder width from OSHA may still be more reliable. Now whether that panel has different proportions for the tank itself idk, maybe I could check it later.Due to us now being able to compare the guy being cut to the Tanker directly, it's downgraded from 10 to 6-7 m, and with that entire explosion radius is reduced
They scale to 310 kilojoules thoughKinda irrelevant to the current discussion but there's this feat of Grace tanking a missle's explosion that lands really close to her. Might be a good support feat for 9-B humans, maybe even a slight upgrade from 133 kilojoules.
It seems like ur right, though i think this feat is still worth calcing. I can do that when I have time if no one else wants to.They scale to 310 kilojoules though
That seems way more consistent with the verse overall in my opinion. I wouldn't be opposed to this downgrade. But actually looking at the picture posted in the calculation, the pic would make the tanker bigger than what it was calculated before, making the radius bigger as well. How would this downgrade the calculation?No it's not an upgrade bro.... I calced it quickly and it's a giant slash to the AP and DC, explosion itself is 92.52 Tons but with how far Homelander stands I am afraid he is going down into Large Building level
After doing some recalcing using Homelander's face as a base I got this, we might still keep 8-B HomelanderThat seems way more consistent with the verse overall in my opinion. I wouldn't be opposed to this downgrade. But actually looking at the picture posted in the calculation, the pic would make the tanker bigger than what it was calculated before, making the radius bigger as well. How would this downgrade the calculation?
actually, the OG calc (check it to see what I mean) used the top part of the tank for the widthAfter doing some recalcing using Homelander's face as a base I got this, we might still keep 8-B Homelander
Using top part reduces the actual width of the thing, one I used is closer to the level of guy's face, this is more accurateactually, the OG calc (check it to see what I mean) used the top part of the tank for the width
I think a more accurate way of scaling the black guy would be by using the distance between the top of his hat to the brim of his hat, as eyeballing the length you calculated near Homelander in the full tanker shot seems prone to errors.After doing some recalcing using Homelander's face as a base I got this, we might still keep 8-B Homelander
8-B Homelander is not inconsistent with the city destruction statements.That seems way more consistent with the verse overall in my opinion.
Neither is High 8-C8-B Homelander is not inconsistent with the city destruction statements.
I didn't say otherwise, but it's definitely not "way more" consistent than 8-A/8-B.Neither is High 8-C
Yes, but that's because in the explosion screeshot they keep that in mind when making the scaling. I can't tell if you that, but at a glance it doesn'tUsing top part reduces the actual width of the thing, one I used is closer to the level of guy's face, this is more accurate
The Tanker is of the same length from all sides, including up, if you don't knowYes, but that's because in the explosion screeshot they keep that in mind when making the scaling. I can't tell if you that, but at a glance it doesn't