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I always thought that was just him going "boy, I must've got so wasted I don't even remember that night"
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The Boys discussion thread
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The Cosby thing always came off as joke first, logical second. There's no reason for Cosby to have spiked Soldier Boy's drinks, but Soldier Boy did end up drinking spiked drinks that he thought were nothing more than notably strong.
The weeds thing and him drinking a hangover remedy are still weird.
The weeds thing and him drinking a hangover remedy are still weird.
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I mean, "blackout drunk" is a term for a reason, we have no clue what happened between Soldier Boy and Cosby.
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That sounds like travel speed to me, the show has failed to even showcase something as simple and cheap like blurring the punches to make them look faster.
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Counterpoint: blurring the punches makes it look worse
Recon1511
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Not really a counterpoint and the show already looks cheap as **** despite getting so much money for Amazon
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a lot of live action do this, and a lot of live action characters have subsonic, supersonic or higher stats despite that. If we downgrade a character's speed just for that and assume it's a good reason (which it isn't), most live action characters on the wiki will be downgraded.
Amazon isn't giving the show a lot of money. The budget of the show is low, that's why there are almost no impressive feats despite the fact that it is a superhero series
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It wouldn't be travel speed only, otherwise the implication is that he flee in a straight line (no need for reactions) grabbed Butcher (somehow not killing him or crashing into anything) and saved him from the bomb.
So, he 100% has to have those reactions.
Like I said in my comment, he either has a speed mode that never uses, or that's his normal combat speed.
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Doesnt he move so fast that humans stop moving in Diabolical?
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Homelander has a speed feat in Diabolical where he moves fast compared to normal humans, although the humans were just in very slow motion rather than being immobile (based on the last guy moving his firearm).
Very fast though may not be A-Train fast, I think.
Very fast though may not be A-Train fast, I think.
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If I had to bet, I would say it's no where near his best feat (even him searching for Translucent is likely better), but it's a good supporting feat, yeah.
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You reminded me that I wanted to calc A-Train kidnapping Kimiko. There he rans fast enough to were everyone looks completely frozen.
Maybe his fight with Annie too, but the only thing fully stopped there are the sparks and I... Don't know how fast sparks are lol
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Black Noir throwing Starlight through a wall and Sun Hee's cancer catching bullets should also be calculated I think
Just_Butchering
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First one ain't really a speed feat I think.
And who is Sun Hee? I assume it's from Diabolical, but: 1. Do we know if they are from one of the canon episodes? 2. Did they fought anyone for the speed feat to be relevant?
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Yeah I know
A woman who had pancreatic cancer, and her husband injected V into her body to try to cure her. She had powers, but so did her cancer, it became a symbiote-like creature (like Butcher)
It's episode 7 of Diabolical, so it's yeah it's canon.
Vought men fired and cancer caught the bullets and killed Vought men. Cancer also devoured several living beings in a forest to grow bigger, and Sun Hee confronted it at the end of the episode
Just_Butchering
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what I meant was, if it would affect any other character besides her, but it seems it's a feat for herself only.
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Looks pretty good tbh. But blurred punches are genuinely a waste of money unless they're fighting somebody slower than them.
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What do you guys think of Kimiko getting 9-A dura from surviving SB's blast, which can vaporize people?
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And? She can withstand super-powered hits without having to heal. It's just an anti-feat at worst.
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Did anyone ever calculate the destruction it caused to that building in season 3? Seems building level to me.
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Kimiko was also blown in half by a grenade launcher (it's 9-A iirc)
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She was split in half by that. I wonder how she heal from that since she still had her pants afterward. Maybe since her intestines were still kind of connected to the top half she pulled herself together. It takes her longer to regrow body parts than it does to repair them, so I doubt she had time to regrow her bottom half and put on her pants again, especially during a fight.
Brain damage and disembowelment seem to be enough to momentarily knock Kimiko out (Both times she was shot in the head, her fight with Black Noir, and the grenade launcher scene)
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I'd be down for upgrading those characters to straight 9-A
This feat, plus the fact that after MM directly saw Lamplighter melt a steel door with his flames, he still thought that Kimiko could survive that and would only be pissed off. Plus characters such as Queen Maeve likely upscaling him, as well as other supes in the verse such as Groundhawk flat out being 9-A. Groundhawk isn't considered anything special in the "The Boys" verse in terms of power, so it's probably safe to assume that the more popular supes like Queen Maeve & Black Noir are stronger than him
tl;dr, I think 9-A supes in The Boys is consistant and that they should just be flat out 9-A rather than "9-B, likely 9-A"
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I agree
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I tried, but way too complex (for me at least)
She gets pierced by bullets and knives (downgrade to 10-B), same logic.
Issue is the Maeve scaling is from a deleted scene, that, while likely canon like the Butcher Short Film being a whole deleted scene, we have no actual confirmation.
Sure, it makes sense, but we don't have much direct reason to scale her to Groundhawk.
But the Lamplighter feat should check, yes.
Also, Sam is bound to help the 9-A scaling in the boys (Luke burnt Brink to ashes, which is 9-A)
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If this for my comment, I was being sarcastic/ironic lol
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Even ignoring the deleted scene, Groundhawk is a known Vought hero yet he isn't in the 7 while Queen Maeve is, implying that she's a better hero as spots in the 7 are reserved for only the best heros (as for how the Deep & Translucent got in if that's the case, good question)
Groundhawk was also defeated by Nubia and she was a contestant on American Hero, but wasn't able to get into the 7 (though that show was somewhat rigged with The Deep getting back in, but there was a legit deciding process and she didn't end up making the cut)
So scaling queen maeve above Groundhawk can still work even without the deleted scene
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1. Should A-Train and Deep (and idk maybe Blue Hawk too) get Martial Arts in their profiles? We saw in Gen V (likely through Maeve, a former student) that the crimefighting supes do actually gets hand-to-hand combat training, and A-Train and Deep both were top ranked students there (Top 1 and Top 6, respectively. As for Blue Hawk, he also was in crimefighting, but not a high rank). I know they don't really fight with much skill, but maybe they at least know some basics? At least likely.
2. Maeve said that prior to fighting Homelander she trained for about 4 months, should she get Accelerated Development? It's a ginormous AP jump for a relatively short amount of time. But idk, maybe she is just built different.
2. Maeve said that prior to fighting Homelander she trained for about 4 months, should she get Accelerated Development? It's a ginormous AP jump for a relatively short amount of time. But idk, maybe she is just built different.
Just_Butchering
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See, I thought the same, but Vought also values popularity a lot. Deep and Translucent got in for "token aquatic/invisible hero".
Now, it makes sense that if Nubian was super OP, they wouldn't try and 'sell him' to another city (S1E1) and rather keep in NY, but maybe he just was a B-list supe and they didn't care. Same with Nubia probably.
Like, powers matter, but if you are popular, you are have better odds than the stronger one.
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Not really.
Translucent, Starlight, Deep, Firecracker and Sage are proof enough that the Seven are 90% marketing. The only real heavy hitters were Maeve and Homelander.
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