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Could Maeve not budging an inch after being hit with a armored truck be usable for lifting strength?
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The Boys discussion thread
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I can see why. Stat jumps through training does not immediately necessitate accelerated development. Many characters have far more ridiculous stat AP jumps within a shorter period of time in other verses than Maeve.
For one thing, our tiering is subjective, and is not always (or more often than not) 1:1 with how the source material treats such things.
Characters who have that power are often explicitly stated to do so in the story.
For one thing, our tiering is subjective, and is not always (or more often than not) 1:1 with how the source material treats such things.
Characters who have that power are often explicitly stated to do so in the story.
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I understand. I was mostly going the "she is in the same league as the rest of supes, all absolutely terrified of Homelander, and now, despite just looking to get "some licks in", she put up a decent fight against the stronges supe, even making him bleed". As in, she got so much stronger within the context of the story. But again, I understand that even then, this doesn't really guarantee AD.
Even the combat skill? Damn. Imo they should have it, at least with a likely :/
Do you have the thread link?
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The Boys: P&A Revisions and Additions.
Queen Maeve Maeve's current P&A list: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Accelerated Development, Martial Arts, Skilled Swordswoman (As seen here), Acrobatics, Enhanced Senses (Noticed Translucent's presence despite him being invisible. Dodged attacks from behind her without looking. Threw a...
Just_Butchering
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The Hughie side of the plot in this episode was like baby steps towards comic accuracy lol
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If Venom has Multiple Selves on his profiles, Butcher should have it yeah
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About Ep6
Its very sad Hughie basically got SAd. Dude cannot catch a break
Firecracker and Homelander scene was hilarious, Homie still is obssessed with that Ig
Braindead Sage was hilarious
I liked the episode, Tek Knights whole dungeon scenes with Ashley was a lil too long for my comfort though-
Its very sad Hughie basically got SAd. Dude cannot catch a break
Firecracker and Homelander scene was hilarious, Homie still is obssessed with that Ig
Braindead Sage was hilarious
I liked the episode, Tek Knights whole dungeon scenes with Ashley was a lil too long for my comfort though-
Just_Butchering
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Hard to tell. I'll check on what applies for Multiple Selves. I'm inclined to saying yes though, just wanna make sure.
Edit: Type 3, 100%. Arguably Type 1 too.
Just_Butchering
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No way someone said A-Train took a plane to CubaThe Boys: P&A Revisions and Additions.
Queen Maeve Maeve's current P&A list: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Accelerated Development, Martial Arts, Skilled Swordswoman (As seen here), Acrobatics, Enhanced Senses (Noticed Translucent's presence despite him being invisible. Dodged attacks from behind her without looking. Threw a...vsbattles.com
Like, he is amongst the most famous people in the world and in full costume. He wouldn't like to be seen just like that, specially when going to kill his hiding gf. He should get Free Movement.
As for the Soldier Dura Neg resistance, it could be clarified as a "Limited Resistance to Dura neg" and explain why and how it's limited (which I think is the same case for Homelander. Is that he resists Blood manip, but rather his body is too durable even internally for Neuman to kill him, quickly at least)
And while not in that thread, I hold the idea that A-Train and Deep (maybe Blue Hawk) should get some basic combat skills.
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So featwise, the EP6 confirms the Extraordinary Genius Intelligence rating for Sage (she is capable of curing cancer and reversing global warming), and Tek Knight's five senses are enhanced (as already suggested by Gen V)
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Also Black Noir II is stated to be able to fly.
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Devil's Advocate here, what if he had a private plane?No way someone said A-Train took a plane to Cuba
Like, he is amongst the most famous people in the world and in full costume. He wouldn't like to be seen just like that, specially when going to kill his hiding gf.
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This episode was a little to heavy handed for my personal tastes, the sex dungeon bit went on way to long. Butcher storyline is really interesting and I can't wait to see how his split personality affect the main cast cause he's obviously gonna come back to help. Hope we get to see how exactly his powers work. Homelander's obsession with breast milk is funny as always and sage brain damage bit was hilarious. When she was first introduced I thought she would be a mary sue but I've been pleasantly surprised, she's ended up being one of my favorite characters this season. Disappointed to see Tech Knight killed off without seeing anything to do with his powers, this season really seems to enjoy the human side of things despite being a show about superheroes.
Since no-one followed up on this I decided to do it myself, I thought I would have to look up tons information about the truck and other stuff but luckily we have an accepted calculation that we already use. Found KE - 1,360,942.83 Joules. Displacement - 3 meters (A similar but likely smaller truck, the ford transit, has a length of 5.6 meters, seeing as Maeve only made it to around the center part of the back chassis I think an assumption of 3 meters should be fine). Work = Force/Displacement - 1,360,942.83/3 = 453647.61 Newtons. Converted to metric tons that equals about 46 Tons, a decent upgrade from her current value.
Just_Butchering
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She made the cure in 3 nights at 11 years old.
Do we buy it or think she was lying?
That would be stated? And even then, that's just avoiding assuming A-Train can run on water just because. I mean it's standard speedster stuff lol
If you could post it as a blog and get some calc group members to accept it.
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I believe her.
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I'm not good with blogs, I only know how to copy other peoples blogs formats. If you could do it that would be appreciated. Also if it is accepted we could probably upscale her and other comparable supes to Class 100 since this was casual.
Just_Butchering
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We trust Sage
Now I'm on my phone, but tomorrow I have no issue of doing it when I use the pc
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46 Tons in LS? Isn't that an outlier? Maeve injured her arm when she lifted a school bus
She is the most intelligent sentient being on the planet and can cure cancer and reverse global warming. There's no reason not to believe her, that's the whole point of the Sage's power.
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That is only Genius I think
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If people as intelligent as Sage exists irl, cancer and global warming would no longer exist. Also, Sage is able to know every detail of a person's life just by looking at them, through pure intelligence. It's clearly Extraordinary Genius
Just_Butchering
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1. She actually "catched" a falling bus, so it the weight of the bus accelerating with gravity
2. She was younger, so maybe she was also weaker?
When did she said the global warming thing?
Also I bump this.No way someone said A-Train took a plane to Cuba
Like, he is amongst the most famous people in the world and in full costume. He wouldn't like to be seen just like that, specially when going to kill his hiding gf. He should get Free Movement.
As for the Soldier Dura Neg resistance, it could be clarified as a "Limited Resistance to Dura neg" and explain why and how it's limited (which I think is the same case for Homelander. Is that he resists Blood manip, but rather his body is too durable even internally for Neuman to kill him, quickly at least)
And while not in that thread, I hold the idea that A-Train and Deep (maybe Blue Hawk) should get some basic combat skills.
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Exactly when she talked about the cancer stuff
ShionAH
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Tbh Cancers cure is definitely hidden lmao
EG means being above logic in your intelligence, Sage has to build a portal gun or calculate the future or smth to get EG iirc.
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So an 11 years old curing cancer in 3 nights and her claim about fixing global warming it's still genius?
Genuine question lol
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No, it's absolutely Extraordinary Genius
EG is beyond real world geniuses, and none of them have succeeded in eradicating cancer and reversing global warming, and none of them can make the cure for leukemia in 3 nights at 11 years old
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So the feat is possibly higher than Class 25?
I don't think so
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Some feats could be calculated here I think
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Unless you have proof for that conspiracy theory then that's just an assumption. And no, it definitely isn't. If it existed, we would have it in hospitals
Technically we do know how to fix global warming, the problem is that we need to convince almost every major country & company on the planet to help out, which isn't happening anytime soon. But that cure for cancer is definitely extraordinary genius
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Sage can do that alone
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Gullible, but I was not really serious while saying that. I still dont think curing cancer is EG
Just_Butchering
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I think that, while the cancer cure should be genius, the EG part comes from the fact that she did it in 3 nights at 11 years old.
Just_Butchering
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To me it's quite entertaining, but it does really feel like "Filler: the season". Like, the stakes were so high in S3, and with S5 being the confirmed last, S4 just kinda exists as padding.
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Oh it's definitely a filler season, literally nothing happens and the plot barely moves forward. But like, this Tek Knight "arc" is strictly worse than the comics version and it doesn't help that Kripke said they found Hughie being sexually assaulted hilarious.
Just_Butchering
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How is it in the comics? A friend of mine recently read the comics, and it got me curious. But I don't mind spoilers about Tek Knight.
About the Hughie scene: I can see the comedic undertone of "wacky Hughie shenanigans" but the context is ******, especially when Hughie himself feels shitty about it at the end of the episode.
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Well in the comics the Tek Knight plotline is a side plot, The Boys are mainly concerned with investigating the death of a teenager and Tek Knight just gives them some info, the focus of the issue is on a Nightwing parody who Vought turned into a gay icon to cover for his screwups despite him being deeply homophobic. Tek Knight himself just suddenly developed a nymphomania and his reputation gets destroyed only to be revealed at the end that the poor bastard had an actual tumor on his brain and unlike every other supe he wasn't evil, just mentally ill.
The whole arc is well done in my opinion, but the problem with the comics is that it certainly has a message and there is a lot of effort behind it but it gets diluted by just how needlessly obscene it is. A shame really, if Garth Ennis had more restraint I would really like them.
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