The Boys discussion thread

[Metalballrun]

I personally enjoyed watching the available 3 episodes. But all the flaws and criticisms applicable on the past 3 seasons is still present in this one.

The funny thing is that I like it when characters get sidetracked on a side quest as long as its entertaining but shit's been on repeat forever now. I empathize with Frenchie's character but his scenes has been my piss break/get a snack break and may remain to be so until the last season.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Just saw episode 1.
Gonna be watching it at a slow pace, no spoilers, please. (Although I'll only be checking this thread every so often, similar to how slowly I check this thread.)

Spoiler: My thoughts on S4E1, in no particular order

Homelander getting gray hairs & other signs of age is surprising. Guess no longevity for this Superman knock off? Maybe he even ages faster?
Ryan still doing nothing except be conflicted about his family & loyalty to Homelander is frustrating. Maybe if Homelander had the sense to try raising him like Clark Kent; Learn how to use powers in good ways -Help out around the yard, etc.- he might ease up? IDK.
The Boys having to retreat because of Zoey is surprising. I guess when you're a covert group, an unexpected element, even one like that, means regrouping?

What exactly is Homelander & Sister Sage's plan? Like, split apart the citizens to cause trouble while Homelander plays fake hero? Isn't that the same thing he's been doing for several seaons which has been tanking his reputation?
I'm not sure if I feel like Sister Sage is that smart, which, considering it's her whole claim to fame....
It annoys me that Icky Vicky Headpopper is seemingly invulnerable to bullets & acid. Between her being an annoying, evil politician & having a cheap power, is she designed to make audiences want to hate her?
Why did Homelander introduce Sister Sage to the rest of The Seven if all she's done so far is be present for & help instigate a violent riot? (I don't remember her exact role.) Surprised she was able to stay safe despite that.

Surprising that Starlight can APPARENTLY only like, use her powers AND fly at the same time for like, 33 seconds. Why is that? Is she just that inexperienced?
Who was Frenchie kissing around the riot scene, & why?
I wonder if their whole scheme will fail by something like, A Train delivering bodies being on camera footage.

The Supervirus for Homelander worries me. I'd be disappointed if he just succumbed to disease & died. Then again, going out with a whimper for a bully, & self-proclaimed supreme of his setting?

As for Billy Bitcher & his belligerent band of bullet-blasting bang bang blockheads, I don't really care much for them. To me, they feel like a bunch of regular people who'd fit into a mundane action series; I'm more interested in the Superhero stuff, not people that feel like something you'd see in, IDK, James Bond or Fast & the Furious or some other mindless violence with guns series. Nominal protagonists or not.

What does everyone else think of it so far?

It seems that he has no longevity and that he ages normally unlike Soldier Boy and Stormfront yeah.
Frenchie kissed Colin, a new character.
Butcher said the Super Virus isn't powerful enough to kill Homelander yet.
Starlight has only been able to fly for six months.
Homelander will never raise Ryan to be like Superman. Homelander views humans as toys and yelled at Ryan when he cried over Kroy's accidental death

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

So I know this is an odd question, but do you guys think VS Battles Wiki exists in "The Boys" universe? What tiers do you think they have the members of The Seven at? Are they allowed to use the actual supes or just their fictional movie/video game versions like how we're not allowed to use real life celebrities on this site but we still have their fictional game/movie versions of them up?

If Vought makes a statement about the real life heros power, do you think that's applied to their movie versions as their movie versions are pretty much just the real them? Or would our site not consider the actual hero's strength when powerscaling their movie versions?

 

[Metalballrun]

One thing's for certain, is that if VSBW exists and The Boys are being rated there, HL will think and say VSBW users are cockroach losers but would still be offended that people think he'd lose to most anime girls.

 

[Imaginym]

It seems that he has no longevity and that he ages normally unlike Soldier Boy and Stormfront yeah.
Frenchie kissed Colin, a new character.

Thanks for the answers about these.

Butcher said the Super Virus isn't powerful enough to kill Homelander yet.

Yeah, keyword "yet". Which is why it worries me for Homelander's future.

Starlight has only been able to fly for six months.

Ah & I guess she hasn't much practice with all those politics, despite being a supposed superhero, eh?

Homelander will never raise Ryan to be like Superman. Homelander views humans as toys and yelled at Ryan when he cried over Kroy's accidental death

Yeah. I agree, but the truth is painful. There's a twisted part of me that wishes even someone like Homelander could become better & find happiness in a good way.
Although, IMHO, his attitude in episode 1 seems like he's switched from seeing humans as less like his beloved fans & more like... well, insignificant.
Perhaps toys, yeah, but still. I'm not sure he sees them as much toys/entertainment as means to an end or obstacles now.

Also, forgive my asking, please, but who is Kroy?

Once again, thank you very much for your tolerance & indulgence of me.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Also, forgive my asking, please, but who is Kroy?

The stuntman Ryan accidentally killed during the scripted heist

 

[Reyne]

It looks like Starlight is indeed stronger now, drawing blood from Firecracker in a shorter fight than Firecracker with Kimiko. I can't wait until she's mastered this new level of power. We keep getting robbed of A-Train versus Homelander is speed.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So Homelander has a decent heat resistance via the new episode. A younger him could resist heat that completely turned Frank into bones pretty quickly. Granted, while it didn't char Homelander, it did hurt him, so there's that.

Also the whole scene with him and Frank was brutal. And the scene with Marty. Oh, Homelander is close to finally losing his marbles.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So Body Control via control of the velocity of his nut and a new heat resistance feat for this season. I'll add to the list once the season ends

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

So Body Control via control of the velocity of his nut and a new heat resistance feat for this season. I'll add to the list once the season ends

Don't forget disease resistance

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Ok so, feat wise the first three episodes give us:

• Resistance to Acid for Neuman (A strong acid made by Frenchie for 6 months had no effect on her.)
• Resistance to Disease for Homelander and Ryan (Homelander said that anthrax can't hurt him and Ryan, and Butcher said that the super virus isn't powerful enough to kill Homelander yet)
• Low Mid regen for Kimiko (Her severed limbs grow back in a few minutes and she is again regenerates from a headshot)
• Limted Information Analysis and Extraordinary Genius for Sage (Is the smartest person on the planet and deduced Homelander's mental and physical problems just by looking at him.)
• Limited Explosion Manipulation for Firecracker (causes firecracker explosions with his hand)

^

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Homelander being the strongest Supes, I think he should presumably have superior acid resistance to Neuman

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Homelander being the strongest Supes, I think he should presumably have superior acid resistance to Neuman

I used this argument to try to give the same resistances of Soldier Boy to Homelander but it was not accepted.

 

[Metalballrun]

Because being the strongest supe doesn't give you the abilities (and resistances) of all supes.
Homie growing old is just another point to that.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Because being the strongest supe doesn't give you the abilities (and resistances) of all supes.
Homie growing old is just another point to that.

I know that, but Homelander isn't just stronger, he's an upgraded version of Soldier Boy, and if Neuman is described as "invulnerable" because she resists Frenchie's acid, Homelander should be able to resist it too.

If acid, poison and radiation can kill Homelander, he would be long dead by now.

 

[Metalballrun]

If Homelander is an upgrade of Soldier Boy, then why is Homie aging and SB not? Why is Homie a pussy and SB a chad?

Now, if it's ever shown or explicitly confirmed that Homie is resistant to acid/poison/radiation, it wouldn't be surprising at all. But requiring more evidence than what we currently have to put that in his profile is also reasonable, IMO.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

After 3 just okay episodes Episode 4 was pretty peak

I’m kinda curious why Starlight wasn’t arrested though

 

[Heoj]

Granted, we cant scale firecracker too much apart from getting beat by kimiko, but starlight was destroying her in ep4.
We've seen scenes this season of her training so it probably implies shes gotten stronger

Hughies combat seems to have slightly improved through a quick life or death fight against a dude

Also without butchers power up, it did look like the christian stretchy dude was gonna strangle butcher to death.

Sage also confirms her regen doesnt apply to her heart, but her brain should have really high regen

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

If Homelander is an upgrade of Soldier Boy, then why is Homie aging and SB not? Why is Homie a pussy and SB a chad?

Now, if it's ever shown or explicitly confirmed that Homie is resistant to acid/poison/radiation, it wouldn't be surprising at all. But requiring more evidence than what we currently have to put that in his profile is also reasonable, IMO.

It should definitely have "possibly/likely" resistance to poison and acid. It wouldn't make sense for Homelander to still be alive if he didn't resist it.

Granted, we cant scale firecracker too much apart from getting beat by kimiko, but starlight was destroying her in ep4.

Firecracker was not defending herself for purpose. The goal was to negatively display Starlight on TV.

We've seen scenes this season of her training so it probably implies shes gotten stronger

Where? I only remember seeing her training Hughie.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Firecracker struggled against a drunken Kimiko and got her ass beat by Starlight. Firecracker is only on the team because Sage needs her for her ability to spread hate, not for her offensive capabilities (Or well, she does because the things she says are pretty offensive). She's a shit-talker primarily

 

[CharlesZaGreat]