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yes you are changing the subject
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The boxer : YU Speed downgrade
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YU or any other character doesn't have Supersonic+ achievements, it went from Subsonic to Supersonic+ and you say that there is no value against it, now you are defending a series you love with illogical things for no reason.
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I have refuted this ridiculous assumption many times and you have failed to defend what I said.
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While J was running, the audience did not see him because they were focused on the match. There is no Supersonic or Transonic success in the series. YU only has 1 subsonic achievement and you say it's not an outlier. This is really funny.
Honestly I've never seen such an unreasonable assumption in my life
I keep repeating it so you can understand, but you don't want to understand a series you love so that it can be higher.
Aaron was as fast as YU and YU threw 3 punches Aaron couldn't react so it was calculated and turned out to be subsonic
Even YU's success turns out to be subsonic. I'm trying to explain that Supersonic+ is an exaggeration, in the same way, I'm trying to say that J moved outside of his time period, but you won't understand.
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changes everything
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I dunno, you almost seem... desperate here... something you doing this for?
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I said I am OUT STOP FFFFFING PINGING MAN
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What????
What do you mean? I'm trying to prove both that this is an outlier and that the feat cannot be used.
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I don't care anymore whether you understand or not, I am the one who is right because you couldn't refute what I said.
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I mean in both cases you're dead wrong yet are still trying to argue it and constantly pinging people like Arceus who don't care anymore to try and change their mind does come off as desperate to me...
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Believe me, it has nothing to do with it.
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I DON'T GIVE A FLYING SHIT ABOUT THAT I AM ASKING YOU TO STOP PINGING ME
I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR THREAD, YOUR DESPERATION, AND I AM LEAVING IT IN THE HANDS OF OTHERS
SO STOP REPLYING TO ME EVERY EFFING TIME
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I managed to refute everything they said and if they don't care about changing my mind they don't have to comment.
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If you don't want to argue, you don't have to comment and you can just ignore me.
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You think you have. Others, like me, do not.I managed to refute everything they said and if they don't care about changing my mind they don't have to comment.
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If they don't answer me, I won't answer them, it's that simple.
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If the character is a god tier with very few feats, this doesn't apply when deeming outliers.
Plus I'm seeing some frozen bullets arguments which can be used to support the narrative.
I disagree with this thread
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main character has subsonic feat and since J is slower this is a real outlier
I also calculated the ability to freeze the bullet and found it to be Massively Hypersonic, which is an outlier.
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And do tell at which point in the story Yu performs this feat lol
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Having a subsonic feat doesn't cap your speed, with your logic if I calc a feat at a certain speed then the pg caps at that speed, and ngl J is superior to Jean and is stated by the author.
When I brought it up my point was mainly that K indeed was able to follow a bullet with his eye therefore his reaction is supersonic (715 m/s, the bullet were from AK47), this supports the verse to be higher than supersonic, at least for the god tier.
EDIT: Yu has a POSSIBLE bullet dodging feat, at least you can argue for that.
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That is referring to K, not J
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Can't read, mb, but then nothing say J is slower than Jean, so still.
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No, since this is a slow-motion success, we should calculate it like this.
Real Speed of preference object : 716 m/s
Apparent speed of preference object : 0.00275 ( snail speed )
Character's movement speed : 1 m/s
The formula for slow motion speed is
(real speed of reference object / apparent speed of reference object) * apparent speed of object of interest = real speed of object of interest
716 / 0.00275 * 1 : 260363.636364
( Massively Hypersonic )
This is a really big outlier.
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If you say Fabrizio's grudge, no, there is no proof.
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Having a subsonic feat doesn't mean you cap at subsonic.
Don't really care if it's an outlier or not.
The keyword there is narrative intent.
If the author depicts his characters capable of viewing bullets "frozen", that's a narrative support for them being comparable or even outrightly superior to bullets in a way.
You'll need to provide something of equal weight (an anti feat/statement) to null that.
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Even Dmua said the ability to see the bullet was an outlier and could not be used
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I'm not just saying it's an outlier, I'm also trying to explain that you can't use Supersonic+, read the comments.
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The point of "frozen" as explain by the author is not really a matter of reaction I agree but only the frozen part, K indeed was able to follow it with his eye, that alone grants a supersonic reaction, I doubt that the author intended that only for a moment his eye can rotate at 715 m/s.
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Then get your story straight.
There's a difference between "this feat is an outlier" and "this calc is wrong"
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You are wrong. He himself says he saw the bullet freeze for a few seconds.
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Lmao
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The author explain the "frozen" thing as something that happens only in few moment of your life due to various factors, ok, I'm not talking about that which would be only a matter of perception, I'm saying K was actually able to keep up with the bullet at least with his reaction, the author doesn't present the frozen thing as a sort of speed boost so the fact he can follow the bullet is a matter of his own reaction imo, like the fact he can have that sort of perception is not something he can always do while the reaction part is something he can do by his own because "that moment" thing doesn't boost his stats.
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