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I back my interpretation with scans and evidence, you back your's with maybes and hypotheticals.
You can't debunk my claims and are just ignoring it now.
You're not posting any scans. Your arguments are stuff like ths "in bowling I can knock over two pins by hitting just one pins" that's not a valid counter. Hell one of your arguments was "I dmed some staff and they agreed with me". You even argued that all =/= every which is utterly ridiculous.You're posting the same scans that I use...
I think I've argued my point well enough, and four members of staff have agreed with me so far, and none with you. It seems fair to say your position has been rejected.
If you'd like, Ichigo has 23 swing after images in the panel of the feat, I can count each individual petal that we see flying off, to say Ichigo cut that many petals in 23 swings.@CloudStrife00T; you do realize that Arc7Kuroi's position is also a hypothetical? That Ichigo hypothetically just collected enough enough blades to neatly line up on his sword, then got rid of them instead of continuing his swing into the petals behind them?
It'd be like he is stopping his sword short with every swing instead of following through, just as soon as reaches the exact threshold to coat his sword.
Not at all if he's shaving off layers this is not true, and it's pseudo-accounted for because the petals wouldn't be stacked like paper.It'd be like he is stopping his sword short with every swing instead of following through, just as soon as reaches the exact threshold to coat his sword.
I think you're misunderstanding Cloud. Only the petals that touch Ichigo's blade are blasted away (aka the 1000ish that can line his blade) the rest continue pushing forward.> So at the end they would move a little back and then come up front.
Why?
But you do acknowledge that the ones Ichigo's sword hit were knocked back (despite the constant force on them to go forward). It is the same logic with the other ones. Byakuya's "force" was overpowered.Because of the force that Byakuya is constantly applying ?
Like during the clash of two energy attacks like Kamehameha why does the one that was pushed back goes forward again ? because there is a constant force that pushes it forward.
Byakuya petals follow the same principle as they being controlled at all times and at all times byakuya is applying the contant force on them
Only for the petals that came into direct contact with the blade (aka the ~1000).But you do acknowledge that the ones Ichigo's sword hit were knocked back (despite the constant force on them to go forward). It is the same logic with the other ones. Byakuya's "force" was overpowered.
That's the big assumption that the calc is based on, it seems.I don't think anyone is denying that. What we are saying is that force which is able to overpower Byakuya's petals only apply to those that are in direct contact and there is not enough force to overpower other layers that is why Ichigo had to hit all of them and that is why Byakuya said that he swatted all of them.
Ok so we have two assumptions:That's the big assumption that the calc is based on, it seems.
I see no reason why we must make that assumption.
Tell you what - get a couple dozen marbles and roll them down a table towards one end as a dense group.Oh there are those small foam balls that are poured in bean bag ? They should be enough for the experiment.
Occam's Razor supports the idea of hitting each individual petal."Swatting all of them" =/= hitting each individual petal.
That's only an issue if Ichigo was using the same amount of force in his later swings.
Not at all because Ichigo would be able to shave off layers proportional to his blade, and the panel itself suggests he's shaving off layers, not chunks. I stack the petals like paper in my calc to heavily lowball to appease the lowballed nature of this website.The exact same issue exists for your interpretation.
Occam's Razor supports the idea of hitting each individual petal.
Byakuya says he swatted all of them and that that should be impossible. The fact Byakuya would think it's impossible supports that it is each and every petal. Since it wouldn't be farfetched to say someone could blow away the petals with a shockwave. Rather, like Byakuya and yourself seem to think, it is impossible for Ichigo to hit every petal. Which is the point of the feat, Ichigo did the impossible, he made lightning strike twice, he got another miracle.
Ichigo only mentions he can go faster, not that he can swing with more AP. I've already disapproved as well why swinging with one-hand at double speed is actually less KE as well.That's only an issue if Ichigo was using the same amount of force in his later swings.