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Shunsui can keep up with Yamamoto and Lille who himself can fight royal guards, he is definitely blitzing HM Ichigo and Byakuya if he felt like it. Also Starrk is faster than Shunsui.Starrk's feat is a little weird because he never demonstrates that level of speed again in any of his following battles, unless you're under the impression that Love, Rojuro and Shunsui can effortlessly blitz Kenpachi and Ichigo?
So you're saying Byakuya isn't one of the fastest Captains? And I never said you need to be good at Shunpo to be fast, generally however, those who are the most skilled at Shunpo are the fastest, that's just how it is.
It's not just a Nnoitra believed himself to have the strongest Hierro thing because it's stated in the databook, the only other person we have to compare with Nnoitra is Yammy in his Release because that's the only other Espada Kenpachi cut.
That verse mechanic was never really that prominent and it's appeared like twice in the story, as you said, when Kenpachi fights Ichigo and when Aizen supposedly nulls Soifon, I say supposedly because a lot of people believe he was just using KS to make it seem like that's what happened.
Regardless, it's stated multiple times that Nnoitra has the hardest Hierro and Zommari has the fastest Sonido, this is a fact.
I'm in agreement with Purgy.
Battles in Bleach are not just whoever has more energy decides all things.
The big thing against Nnoitra is that Ichigo's GT should be stronger than random Zaraki slash and that GT couldn't harm the bat.
Are you sure? Because Ichigo's Getsuga Tensho only nicked Yammy whereas a random Zaraki slash could lop off Yammy's whole leg.
Thanks for the evaluation. I've updated the profiles with what is there for now.I took a look at Damage's sandbox, and I'd say it look solid.
How so?Byakuya should also be Sub-rel while controlling Senbozakura not just higher.
Because Shunsui is among the captains that don't become stronger between arcs so anything he does in any part of it is valid for any version.o idea why you mentioned Lille when that's TYBW Shunsui, regardless, I didn't bring up Shunsui to say he couldn't blitz Kenpachi and Ichigo, I brought him up because he's just somebody that fought Starrk.
Starrk can be faster than Shunsui but Shunsui was still able to keep up and fight him.
The Vizoreds were able to keep up with Resurreccion Starrk and his Wolves, and Resurreccion Starrk should be 5x faster than Base Starrk and his profile even mentions he does get a speed boost from his Resurreccion, by your logic both Vizoreds should be capable of effortlessly blitzing Ichigo and Kenpachi without even using their mask, which obviously makes no sense.
We actually scale Byakuya above no mask Ichigo in speed according to their profiles.
Single statements are questionable on their own, but multiple that say the same thing? I personally put more value in statements from the author than I do in feats, but that might just be me.
A Reiatsu increase would correlate to a stat increase yes, that doesn't prove however that having higher Reiatsu automatically makes you stronger than people with lesser Reiatsu by default, there are times where it's safe to say it does, but it's not always the case, a good example is Yammy, he has the most Reiatsu out of the Espada, would you say he's faster than Starrk? Byakuya was able to keep up with him.
yammy with bala should be mhs as thats x20 normal cero
and yoruichi who is high hypersonic couldnt dodge his normal cero
It's just 2 statements for Nonoitra and 2 for Zommari, the source is themselves and the databook which might be just echoing them, it's not like Aizen said something or like Kenpachi fought a stronger Espada and said they has weaker hierro, as it stands all we have is the word of Nnoitra and Zommari and they shouldnt even be aware of the other Espadas powers.
Even if they don't know the specific abilities of the other Espada, they'd know their own place in the ranking.
If the absolute rule was a higher ranking = higher AP, speed & durability, then why would they even claim that they were the fastest Espada, or the most durable Espada?
Shunsui very clearly does become stronger between arcs and his profile reflects this, even characters who aren't shown to train generally get stronger between arcs, that's just how Shonen manga works, natural power progression.
Even if Zommari and Nnoitra aren't aware of the other Espada's Sonido/Hierro, the person who wrote the databook is and they're confirming both Zommari's and Nnoitra's statement.
So you admit there are exceptions to the "Reiatsu rule"? Zommari and Nnoitra are an exception then, just like Yammy is, if you're admitting that higher Reiatsu doesn't always equal higher stats then you can't use it against Zommari nor Nnoitra.
this keeps getting ignored...yammy with bala should be mhs as thats x20 normal cero
and yoruichi who is high hypersonic couldnt dodge his normal cero
and the mhs should be given to urahara and whoever scales to him
as he had enough time to make a gigai and switch places before all the balas hit him and dodged one normally
as unohana didnt grow stronger, should we scale aizen and yamamoto from fkt to her? as aizen wasnt worried about unohana who was near him but was unsure if he could beat yamamoto
Yet we know Yoruichi has a similar reiatsu level and there's stronger characters that aren't trascendent tier.Shunsui is lazy and never trains. Ukitake and Shunsui were said to be transcendent above everyone else by Yamamoto himself.
Yoruichi equal to Shunsui? Yoruichi was bleeding from Soifon's shikai. Yoruichi lost to Askin Nakk Le Varr a newbie to the Elite Quincy and Lille Barro was the leader of the Elite Quincy and a God. The Godslayer sword only cuts Gods. None of those characters are stronger than Shunsui according to Yamamoto, who is the exception of having transcendent reiatsu too. Check the updated images above.Yet we know Yoruichi has a similar reiatsu level and there's stronger characters that aren't trascendent tier.
Starrk, Urahara, Tokinada, Aizen, Yamamoto, Byakuya, Unohana, etc.
Could be. If you compare it to his databook stats. Kenpachi was hinted at been transcendent in the manga and he fought Hikone who became transcendent after fusing with the Hollow who ate a piece of the Soul King, and proceeded to negate Ichibei's bankai when Base Yhwach couldn't feel the reiatsu from Ichibei's shikai.I think the transcendent Yama statement just means that he has reached the pinnacle of Shinigami strength.Or maybe theres a possibility that he IS a transcended Shinigami??