The 5 Kage (Naruto) vs The Crystal Gems (Steven Universe)

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

yes and no (lol ive been gone awhile). any of them can use lighting release to counter other types of lightning.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

No, Lorenzo. It's not as easy as using another lightning technique and countering it. And the only one that has shown lightning techniques is the Raikage.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

..Should Gaara be able to resist it? Chidori specifically was able to puncture through his strongest defensive barrier in Part 1, because of the weird way that lightning works against earth in Naruto.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Unless it's used somehow similar, I don't see why not. The point of Chidori is turning your hand into a spear because of that penetrating/vibrating whatever hijinks that pretty much makes Sasuke's arm plunge into his shield like it was soft dough.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Wait, you're right. Gaara was later able to block Raikage's Lightning Armor-amp'd chop against Sasuke when he stepped in during the Five Kage Summit.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Gonna point out that Tsunade's summon can survive High 6-C blows, albeit Being unable to give em back.

 

[Pepper14832]

Finally someone says something about Gaara.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Doing so also requires requires a lot of chakra that she can't afford to waste here

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Doing so also requires requires a lot of chakra that she can't afford to waste here

Not really. Summoning it isn't that difficult for her, giving it enough chakra to heal hundreds is.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

So, I'm sure this is gonna sound pretty ridiculous to anyone who has, like, nigh-eidetic memory of both of these verses, but I just had a thought.

Steven practically lives on the beach, right? The kid is also constantly wearing flip-flops. Couldn't Gaara bypass Steven's bubble by, say, using the sand stuck to Steven's own feet to form a solid chunk in his throat, blocking off his airways and killing him? Or at the very least, manipulating the grains to wreak havoc in his lungs? Given Gaara's usual offensive methods with sand, Gaara's intelligence, Steven's lack of Gem Physiology, and the circumstances of Steven's barrier, this would be a perfectly viable move for him.

 

[Paul_Frank]

I mean hypothetically maybe?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

So, I'm sure this is gonna sound pretty ridiculous to anyone who has, like, nigh-eidetic memory of both of these verses, but I just had a thought.
Steven practically lives on the beach, right? The kid is also constantly wearing flip-flops. Couldn't Gaara bypass Steven's bubble by, say, using the sand stuck to Steven's own feet to form a solid chunk in his throat, blocking off his airways and killing him? Or at the very least, manipulating the grains to wreak havoc in his lungs? Given Gaara's usual offensive methods with sand, Gaara's intelligence, Steven's lack of Gem Physiology, and the circumstances of Steven's barrier, this would be a perfectly viable move for him.

Steven also has a bubble helmet that he could use to protect his head from that happenning so, I'd say unlikely.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

-snip-

Has he ever used this "bubble helmet" while inside of another of his bubbles? There'd be no point, right?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Theyre in a neutral so no

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Theyre in a neutral so no

I'd say it doesn't matter if they're in a neutral location or not. The kid lives on the beach, he only wears flip-flops and jeans with rolled-up hems around the ankles. Different locale or not, the dude is going to have sand on him--between his toes, in his jeans, under his feet. That shit gets everywhere, and it sticks.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No, he's not

Wears flip flops =/= Steven is constantly covered in sand

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Can Gaara make more sand from just a few grains though? Plus I'm not even sure that Steven's ever been shown to have sand on him from just walking around.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

...Have you guys never walked around on a beach before? Or spent any time near a coast whatsoever? Whether the animation shows it or not, sand sticks to people. He's not going to be covered in it, no, but it wouldn't take much to create a serious blockage in the airways, or just otherwise do awful things to a set of human lungs.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Even then, would Gaara even be able to SEE the sand on Steven, Steven's bubble is kinda opaque, (It's a darker pink on the outside and a lighter pink on the insiide) so Gaara might not even know that there's sand on him.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Doing that is about as in character as Pearl doing the same thing with her sand manip

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Oh yeah, that's right. Even if Gaara did that pearl could just counter with her own sand manip.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

It's definitely not in-character, and I agree that Gaara probably wouldn't be able to see the sand himself, but in theory, it'd work, wouldn't it?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

In theory sure, but just due to how unlikely it'd be it can't be said for sure that it'd happen, so I don't think it can be considered a viable option.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Pretty sure Gaara can sense sand, that and Gaara very much uses sand in a way like that (Not the choke or such, but he does use sand on his enemies), he plain made some of it go into Madara's bloodflow, he simply "lel hashirama cells"-d it.

Mind ysou, the gems win, but pretty sure steven would die.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Actually, interesting point, if they did kill Steven, would that be considered bloodlusting them since they just killed the person they're supposed to protect? Like just seeing him get hurt usually sends them into a rage so who knows what they'll do if they kill him.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I really dont think its fair to assume that Steven has sand on him here just because he lives on a beach in his verse

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Worse comes to worse Steven realizes someone is attacking his lungs (Seeing as he can go without oxygen longer than a normal human) and knee-jerk fuses with Amethyst so he no longer needs oxygen

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Pretty sure that Gaara would just forcefully throw his insides around, as well as his body, like with Madara. Doubt he would know his insides are being attacked at all.

As for the sand on him, you cannot live near a beach without you breathing as much sand as oxygen, let alone not having it on you.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes but its a neutral battleground

Making steven covered in sand when this has never been the case seems odd

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Most sand particles when inhaled are immediately expelled by sneezing or coughing though. And it can even sometimes not go down your airways, but rather move to your digestive system and be expelled out that way. Even then, there's some tiny cells present in your lungs called phagocytes, they attack & destroy unwanted particles. If he had a dangerous amount of sand in his lungs, he would have serious respiratory problems, which he doesn't have.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

I mean, provided Steven isn't sucked out of his verse for this match post-shower and/or before stepping outside at all, I don't see why that wouldn't be a fair assumption.

I dunno, man, I just made the connection between the two and wanted to see where it went. A lot of conflicts can be changed entirely by little realistic details like "Steven lives on a beach, and rarely, if ever, wears enclosed shoes, and is thus extremely likely to have trace amounts of sand on his feet/on his clothing".

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He also has his clothes, and sand being in those close is realistically the norm.

Doesn't really change anything regardless.

 

[Wokistan]

With how small sand particles are if anything he'd just rip the sand out of his body and get on with it, ironically causing way less damage than if he could TK him. Steven definitely will have sand on him due to living on a beach, but I don't think he's ingesting it to a degree where Gaara can like pop his brain or something.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

BTW more people gotta start voting so we can finish this up, P sure I'm the only one who's actually voted so far. (At least that's been counted.)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Technically Ricsi voted as well

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

With how small sand particles are if anything he'd just rip the sand out of his body and get on with it, ironically causing way less damage than if he could TK him. Steven definitely will have sand on him due to living on a beach, but I don't think he's ingesting it to a degree where Gaara can like pop his brain or something.

I mean, he could somehow throw Madara around with a few sand particles the size of his red cells, it's... very scienmtifically acurate.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im voting the Gems after a long ass battle as well

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah but due to surface area that sand would tear through his insides as opposed to letting him throw steven by it. A lot of force on a tiny object just penetrates stuff.

That is definitely not good for steven, but he can't just ragdoll him.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Then I guess Steven just Heals and that ends that.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Come to think of it, I think part of the "ragdolling Madara" feat of Gaara's was that he was also using his Magnet Release on the iron in Madara's blood, in addition to the sand particles.