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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

rainheart said:
have you seen the volum 19 cp 4 michael,rimuru,chloe perform it and it also stated in a combat context...And infinite speed via inteneous movement..
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send the scan, I don't remember anything related to the infinite speed feat, other than the explanation about the suspended world.
Catpija said:
Its teleportation imo, but arguing over a feat that havent been translated correctly is useless
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It's useless to debate in CRT, but I don't think it's bad to discuss here.
Tempestdragon6 said:
Guy's do you have any theory on what will happen in volume 20 of the light novel ??
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Milim vs Zelanus I think it's definitely going to happen, I think it's going to close the Guy and Velzard case, I'm also rooting for Veldora to get into action, but I think this will only happen in volume 21, Feldway should finally start using his real body and I think he's going to be as powerful as Rimuru, Ivarage I don't think he's going to have much combat participation yet, Luminas should finally get into action too, and I feel like it's going to show more of Hinata, and Shion should finally evolve her skill
 
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Peak said:
It's useless to debate in CRT, but I don't think it's bad to discuss here.
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fair enough, also regarding the Infinite Speed from Instantenous Movement

Even ‘Instantaneous Movement’ was possible because it could travel over any distance without regard to time.
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but personally for me, i think its just teleportation
 
Catpija said:
fair enough, also regarding the Infinite Speed from Instantenous Movement



but personally for me, i think its just teleportation
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I agree, instant movement was said to be a power related to space-time manipulation, Velgrynd didn't show immeasurable speed against Feldway in volume 19, so I still keep in mind that no one has immeasurable speed yet
 
Peak said:
I agree, instant movement was said to be a power related to space-time manipulation, Velgrynd didn't show immeasurable speed against Feldway in volume 19, so I still keep in mind that no one has immeasurable speed yet
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Because velgrynd wasn't a digital lifeform
 
Zegion said:
Because velgrynd wasn't a digital lifeform
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I confused the discussions, I talked about Velgrynd because they were saying about her having immeasurable speed after the feats of volume 17, traveling through the multiverse going to the past, present and future, but anyway, we can say that this has been denied and only digital life forms have a better chance of having this feat.
 
Peak said:
I confused the discussions, I talked about Velgrynd because they were saying about her having immeasurable speed after the feats of volume 17, traveling through the multiverse going to the past, present and future, but anyway, we can say that this has been denied and only digital life forms have a better chance of having this feat.
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No velgrynd get imeasurable speed bcouse she runs in a world that transcend time,go to past,future,diferent timeline...
for digitial lifeform=Information particle it said to transcend time and can transmit any with zero time diff but the context was in a combat and reaction feats i will show scan...
 
Shouldn't Diablo and other demons have incoporeality ?They have no physical bodies .They need to posses physical bodies to act in material worlds .
I don't see it on Diablo's LN profile .
Sorry to bother if I am wrong
 
rainheart said:
ig no cuz she jump trought it and also she running in a world that transcend time...
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also, she can do that because of Ctugha, which consist of Space Time Manipulation

All she has to do now is “jump” for it.

It is a perfect combination of Spacetime Manipulation and Dimension Leap, a technique that is only possible with the Ultimate Skill’s ever-growing power.
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Anyway i still think rimuru would get immesurable speed in vol 19 because of him being completely made up of information which Transcends time and can travel instantly with 0 lag
 
If the “information particle” was unaffected by time and space, then wouldn’t it make sense that communication would be instantaneous as well?
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«No problem. It turns out that information particles are unaffected by time or space and can transmit information to any point in time. This means that they can transmit thoughts even in a suspended world.»
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«I am a part of Master, so I am not affected by time at all.
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In short, the “information particle” is not affected by space-time, so it can move in any situation. That’s why, by interfering with the information particle as a substitute for magicules, you can maintain your vision and transmit your thoughts.
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Assuming that the mind and spirit are also information, it’s not impossible.
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«If it is a spiritual life form, then they must have transformed all matter into ‘information particles,’ thereby resulting in a Digital Lifeform.»
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I thought that she was using ‘Thought Acceleration,’ but it seems that this was not the case. Apparently, we were just exchanging “information particles” with no time lag, and it was possible because we shared the same ‘soul.’
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What y'all think about this?
 
Zegion said:
What y'all think about this?
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I think it's pretty clear that information particles have immeasurable speed (Unless Volume -20 shows anti feat )

"In short, the “information particle” is not affected by space-time, so it can move in any situation. "

Since Rimuru is a digital lifeform now which consists only of information particles he probably has immeasurable speed .

Will have to wait for volume 20.

Also anyone who can move in suspended world probably should have speed equal to information particles.That could make them immeasurable ,may be ?
 
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dont forget this too

Conversation had been established and the reaction speed of vision was also constant. This was as clear a physical phenomenon as the fact that ‘all things cannot exceed the speed of light.’

In that case, why did the “information particles” exceed the speed of light?

This was not a matter of the speed being exceeded.

It was as if the information particles, which were supposed to be at different coordinates, were transferring information to each other with zero time difference. Regardless of how far they were from each other, as long as the information particles existed in the recognizable space, there was no time difference. In other words, an ‘information particle’ transcended time and space.
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Peak said:
I reread volume 19 and indeed, at the very least it appears to be infinite speed, apparently the pinnacle of a spiritual lifeform is the speed of light, while digital lifeforms can overcome this and move at 0 time speed, now just wait.
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can be immeasurable because even velgrind that could travel between the past and the future and even travel through worlds without time or space cannot interact with digital life forms, besides that everything in tension including the different worlds with different laws and concepts including the time itself are made of information, and a being made of that information is not limited by it, so much so that time stops in all worlds, hence immeasurable speed
 
LoganKroos said:
can be immeasurable because even velgrind that could travel between the past and the future and even travel through worlds without time or space cannot interact with digital life forms, besides that everything in tension including the different worlds with different laws and concepts including the time itself are made of information, and a being made of that information is not limited by it, so much so that time stops in all worlds, hence immeasurable speed
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Velgrynd I'm still not confident because it feels like teleportation than speed, but i believe it will become a digital life form in the future so i'm not too worried
 
Peak said:
Velgrynd I'm still not confident because it feels like teleportation than speed, but i believe it will become a digital life form in the future so i'm not too worried
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I think everyone in the octagram, their main subordinates, and the other god tiers are going to become digital lifeforms.
 
LoganKroos said:
I think everyone in the octagram, their main subordinates, and the other god tiers are going to become digital lifeforms.
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stop time has become something much more difficult in LN, so maybe not so much character, I also think the octogram will do it, but I think only the primordials, Shion, Benimaru and Zegion has more chances of being able to evolve, not counting the antagonists, maybe Rudra too, as he rivaled Guy, and Guy is a digital lifeform.
 
Peak said:
stop time has become something much more difficult in LN, so maybe not so much character, I also think the octogram will do it, but I think only the primordials, Shion, Benimaru and Zegion has more chances of being able to evolve, not counting the antagonists, maybe Rudra too, as he rivaled Guy, and Guy is a digital lifeform.
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I said this because the fuse made it clear that this is not the final form of rimuru and that it is not even close to his current form in volume 19, besides that he is developing more secondary characters like hinata, and the 4 heavenly kings of Milim , in addition to adding many characters like the scryptids, the rest of the angels, the spirits, the subordinates of the ivaraj, the insectars and probably the people of the promised land
 
Peak said:
stop time has become something much more difficult in LN, so maybe not so much character, I also think the octogram will do it, but I think only the primordials, Shion, Benimaru and Zegion has more chances of being able to evolve, not counting the antagonists, maybe Rudra too, as he rivaled Guy, and Guy is a digital lifeform.
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no guy is not a spirituap lifeform he was able to move due copying velzard Suspend world..
 
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