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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Statements of Transcending Time or/and Space give nothing, Adam gained Infinite Speed not for the statement of his fist Transcending Time but from the feat said punch displayed which did meet the requirements for Infinite Speed.
 
Anyway it seems indicating that the reason why information can see through thing's that move over at the speed of light is because it transcend time and space, which i think would essentially gives it an infinite speed rating.
 
Transcending Space and Time is never primary or supporting evidence for anything. If you have feats for Immeasurable or Infinite Speed then you get those ratings, but your just as likely to get those ratings without statements of Transcending Space and Time as you are with those statements.
 
If you're going to post a scan, might as well put if it's from the WN or the LN, and what volume/chapter. Also put it in spoiler tags ffs.

Even then we are limiting our profiles to translated volumes. It would be cool to see and discuss feats but it's not going to be put in any profiles any time soon, even if you are willing to put on the work of creating Rimuru's third key.

I don't really see any evidence of immeasurable speed here. We might be able to bring back high-godly regeneration based on new information about infons though.
 
I'm not arguing with immeasurable speed anymore what I'm arguing is him claiming transcending time through sheer speed doesn't mean anything
 
First of all, the translation is so bad that you can barely understand what's going on and what feat is happening.
I don't think you're even sure about it.

Even the scan talks about it NOT being about speed, so I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Nobody has been able to describe what's happening in that shit ass translation.

Thirdly, a lot of context are missing from this scene, like this is probably during the stopped time battle. We're not getting the full picture here.

Just wait for Char's translations ffs
 
Why are we even discussing immesurable speed again?lol
Didn't we agree not to make any decisions based on mtls.And the statement here isn't even talking about any being but rather information particles from what i little i understand 🤣
 
@Worthless That scan is Rimuru's perspective on Chloe's and Michael's battle. Which is happening in stopping time. Rimuru can't move, so he making these inductions based on what he's observing. Rimuru doesn't have any feat here because he's literally not moving.

What he discovers is that Chloe and Michael aren't able to move due to speed, that wouldn't make sense anyway, but transferring information for linked information particles. He essentially implies that they are teleporting accept not through spatial abilities.
 
I still haven't read the whole context of that event, so i don't know what's really going on, except to those things the person have showed here and I'm not really that persistent of immeasurable speed shit or whatever hence i said who knows possibly and easily gave up saying it's immeasurable
 
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Rimuru dreamed of the time he went out of the cave except the first/last thing he saw was a witch that killed slimes for 300 years.
 
So peeps
I'm kinda confused
As you know vollume 19 Masayuki/Rudra is a Giga-Chad
So will only Rudra scale to all the feats done by him or Masayuki too as he is able to summon Rudra using his ultimate skill and manifest him in his self (Masayuki)
 
Zegion said:
Can anyone explain me how ultimate skill are abstract and what is promised World/land?
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I don't recall anywhere in our profiles saying Ultimate Skills are abstract existences.

We don't really know what the Promised Land is, it's likely some type of abstract world similar to heaven where those who exit the cycle of reincarnation go to.

Helestias said:
So peeps
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Masayuki and Rudra's profiles should probably just be consolidated.
Naturally, Rudra's power is Masayuki's power. So they would scale.
 
Metalballrun said:
I don't recall anywhere in our profiles saying Ultimate Skills are abstract existences.

We don't really know what the Promised Land is, it's likely some type of abstract world similar to heaven where those who exit the cycle of reincarnation go to.


Masayuki and Rudra's profiles should probably just be consolidated.
Naturally, Rudra's power is Masayuki's power. So they would scale.
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Okay tq 👍🏻
 
Can Spirit Particles get Immeasurable speed?
“Spirit Particle” is the special particle that makes up magicule, its motion is extremely hard to predict. The spirit particles can move through the barrier of space and time. The principle that governs these random phase changes—The law of natural motion in “Spirit Particle” —If not decoded, even my “Absolute Defense” would be penetrated. (Volume 7)
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Which Discord?
There isn't really any higher dimension in Slime, other than the space between worlds, which is only just a possibility.

Moving through the barrier of space and time doesn't really prove any sort of speed. It's more about ignoring defenses and barriers.
Plus, we already have spiritron-based attacks and they're only near the speed of light.
 
Do we have any other country-level statedments/feats other than these?
Most of these are also from the fan translations, I'm unsure how much the Yen Press version would vary from them.
An A-ranked monster is a threat to an existence of a nation. (Volume 1, Chapter 1)Normally, an A-ranked monster alone would be dreadful enough to threaten the existence of a nation—someone like Veldora was dangerous enough to plunge it into despair.
Razen says that Special A, or Calamity level threats, such as Arch Demons, are capable of causing a crisis that could bring a whole country to its demise. (Volume 7, Chapter 1)Larzen recalls now.

This Diablo, who has been sitting casually in front of him, is a terrifying demon.

An Archdemon—No, he said he isn’t kind (cheap) like that.

On top of that, even an Archdemon alone would be quite a threat. If he was to appear in some smaller country, he would have caused a crisis that could bring the whole nation to its demise.

That’s why they are categorized as Calamity—Threat level up to Special Rank A.

Basic magic barriers would not stand effective. He could easily destroy a nation’s defense by unleashing a bit more of his Youki (demonic aura). He may even be capable of crushing his enemies one-sidedly using magic alone.
Razen believes that Rimuru can singlehandedly destroy Farmus, a large country. (Volume 7, Chapter 1)It must have been a warning to Larzen.

Telling him to not get ahead of himself.

There is no wonder that his country had been destroyed when they are up against such an opponent, who even a PrimordialDemon would pledge loyalty to.

—if it’s that Demon Lord, he could single-handedly destroy the entire Farmus Kingdom.

Such thoughts keep crossing Larzen’s mind.
Legends speak of Demon Lords as beings that can singlehandedly destroy nations. (Volume 7, Chapter 2)A single monster was able to massacre the entire twenty-thousand army—The crowds are speechless before this fact presented before them. The silence is accompanied by a nervous air as everyone begins to recall a certain legend.

There was once a group of individuals who could single-handedly destroy nations. They became Demon Lords, and so, legends—
Demon Peer Testarossa considered destroying the Kingdom of Ingracia herself. (Volume 11, Chapter 3).
“If we can detect suspicious activities ahead of time, we can plan accordingly before anything bad happens.”

“Indeed.”

“Testarossa, can I trouble you to take care of the matter?”

“Most certainly. Regarding the method, however, should I destroy their entire nation?”

No no, that won’t do.
Johann, one of the Five Elders of the Western Nations, believes that Primordial Greed Mizari wouldn't break a sweat in destroying Ingracia, a large country. And would even affect other nations surrounding it, such as Rostia. (Volume 11, Chapter 5).Johann’s mission was complete. The ‘Apostles of Verte’ had also clearly achieved their ambitions. Because their god—Demon Peer Mizari—had answered their summoning.

Mizari was more terrifying than some demon lords. She wouldn’t break a sweat in destroying the Kingdom of Ingracia.

Kukuku, even the supposed strongest unit of this nation, the magical inquisitors, froze at the sight of the demon. This country is doomed. Our nation of Rostia will probably be affected as well; I suppose I’ll just have to apologize to everyone in the next life. In satisfaction, Johann glanced around the meeting hall.
Three Special A/Calamity Class beings appearing at the same time can easily obliterate a small country. (Volume 12, Chapter 3)But he was still cheating, right? Why, you ask? Because, if three Special A—Calamity-class—beings appeared at the same time, they could easily obliterate a small country. If this was happening under my nose, then there must’ve been more things they were hiding from me.
Mjolmille says that the Sky Dragon, a Calamity level monster on par with Ifrit, can topple a small country in a matter of seconds. (Volume 17, Chapter 1).I’m not just talking about the destruction of large cities, but he also saved me by defeating a sky dragon, a monster that could have toppled a small country, in a matter of seconds. At that point in time, he was a hero in my eyes, but I was astonished to hear that he had become one of the Octagram shortly thereafter.

It would've been preferable if there were calculable feats but alas this series is ass in providing them.
 
Metalballrun said:
Do we have any other country-level statedments/feats other than these?
Most of these are also from the fan translations, I'm unsure how much the Yen Press version would vary from them.
An A-ranked monster is a threat to an existence of a nation. (Volume 1, Chapter 1)Normally, an A-ranked monster alone would be dreadful enough to threaten the existence of a nation—someone like Veldora was dangerous enough to plunge it into despair.
Razen says that Special A, or Calamity level threats, such as Arch Demons, are capable of causing a crisis that could bring a whole country to its demise. (Volume 7, Chapter 1)Larzen recalls now.

This Diablo, who has been sitting casually in front of him, is a terrifying demon.

An Archdemon—No, he said he isn’t kind (cheap) like that.

On top of that, even an Archdemon alone would be quite a threat. If he was to appear in some smaller country, he would have caused a crisis that could bring the whole nation to its demise.

That’s why they are categorized as Calamity—Threat level up to Special Rank A.

Basic magic barriers would not stand effective. He could easily destroy a nation’s defense by unleashing a bit more of his Youki (demonic aura). He may even be capable of crushing his enemies one-sidedly using magic alone.
Razen believes that Rimuru can singlehandedly destroy Farmus, a large country. (Volume 7, Chapter 1)It must have been a warning to Larzen.

Telling him to not get ahead of himself.

There is no wonder that his country had been destroyed when they are up against such an opponent, who even a PrimordialDemon would pledge loyalty to.

—if it’s that Demon Lord, he could single-handedly destroy the entire Farmus Kingdom.

Such thoughts keep crossing Larzen’s mind.
Legends speak of Demon Lords as beings that can singlehandedly destroy nations. (Volume 7, Chapter 2)A single monster was able to massacre the entire twenty-thousand army—The crowds are speechless before this fact presented before them. The silence is accompanied by a nervous air as everyone begins to recall a certain legend.

There was once a group of individuals who could single-handedly destroy nations. They became Demon Lords, and so, legends—
Demon Peer Testarossa considered destroying the Kingdom of Ingracia herself. (Volume 11, Chapter 3).
“If we can detect suspicious activities ahead of time, we can plan accordingly before anything bad happens.”

“Indeed.”

“Testarossa, can I trouble you to take care of the matter?”

“Most certainly. Regarding the method, however, should I destroy their entire nation?”

No no, that won’t do.
Johann, one of the Five Elders of the Western Nations, believes that Primordial Greed Mizari wouldn't break a sweat in destroying Ingracia, a large country. And would even affect other nations surrounding it, such as Rostia. (Volume 11, Chapter 5).Johann’s mission was complete. The ‘Apostles of Verte’ had also clearly achieved their ambitions. Because their god—Demon Peer Mizari—had answered their summoning.

Mizari was more terrifying than some demon lords. She wouldn’t break a sweat in destroying the Kingdom of Ingracia.

Kukuku, even the supposed strongest unit of this nation, the magical inquisitors, froze at the sight of the demon. This country is doomed. Our nation of Rostia will probably be affected as well; I suppose I’ll just have to apologize to everyone in the next life. In satisfaction, Johann glanced around the meeting hall.
Three Special A/Calamity Class beings appearing at the same time can easily obliterate a small country. (Volume 12, Chapter 3)But he was still cheating, right? Why, you ask? Because, if three Special A—Calamity-class—beings appeared at the same time, they could easily obliterate a small country. If this was happening under my nose, then there must’ve been more things they were hiding from me.
Mjolmille says that the Sky Dragon, a Calamity level monster on par with Ifrit, can topple a small country in a matter of seconds. (Volume 17, Chapter 1).I’m not just talking about the destruction of large cities, but he also saved me by defeating a sky dragon, a monster that could have toppled a small country, in a matter of seconds. At that point in time, he was a hero in my eyes, but I was astonished to hear that he had become one of the Octagram shortly thereafter.

It would've been preferable if there were calculable feats but alas this series is ass in providing them.
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Hmm...don't think so, those were the ones I was considering.

I'll let you. I'm on V14 right now.

Interesting how YP add "small" to the statement
 
Fuse Interview.
Basically just confirms things such as:
  • Manga 100% canon, Fuse oversaw everything (though this is already confirmed at the end of the first volume of the manga)
  • Spinoffs are canon, Fuse wrote their plots.
  • Anime script-writing was supervised by Fuse. Some things didn't work out.
  • Rimuru is some sort of Fuse's self-insert as an "ideal boss"
 
i would like some quotes added to yuuki's profile both the web/light novels

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Yuuki Kagurazaka (Web Novel)

Yuuki Kagurazaka is the former Grand Master of the Freedom Association, the main antagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. Tier: 6-A | 3-A | At least 3-A, likely higher, Varies from 3-A to Low 2-C with Gluttonous King Beelzebub Key: Yuuki | Velda | With Veldanava's Power | End of Series...
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i mean he is a big bad antagonist so some quotes would help.



Question, could you say yuuki is the evil counterpart to rimuru in the sense they both came from earth but one became good and the other became bad.
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
i would like some quotes added to yuuki's profile both the web/light novels

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Yuuki Kagurazaka (Web Novel)

Yuuki Kagurazaka is the former Grand Master of the Freedom Association, the main antagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. Tier: 6-A | 3-A | At least 3-A, likely higher, Varies from 3-A to Low 2-C with Gluttonous King Beelzebub Key: Yuuki | Velda | With Veldanava's Power | End of Series...
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i mean he is a big bad antagonist so some quotes would help.



Question, could you say yuuki is the evil counterpart to rimuru in the sense they both came from earth but one became good and the other became bad.
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It would be better to post the quotes here first I guess and state the chapter/origin. But adding quotes seem uncontroversial.

Do note that WN Yuuki and LN Yuuki are completely different characters. While WN Yuuki is the main villain of the WN, LN Yuuki is only villanous within the first half of the story and becomes more heroic in the latter half, or rather, he wasn't really a "villain" in the first place.


Pokemonfan807 said:
also why doesn't his web novel version have the arrogance weakness?
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Slime Isekai profiles in general are lacking explanations in their intelligence and weakness section. LN Yuuki's weaknesses was just added by me months ago, for example.

However I'm only familiar with the LN so I've only been making future CRTs for the LN version, though I've been too busy IRL to finish and post them.
 
Metalballrun said:
It would be better to post the quotes here first I guess and state the chapter/origin. But adding quotes seem uncontroversial.

Do note that WN Yuuki and LN Yuuki are completely different characters. While WN Yuuki is the main villain of the WN, LN Yuuki is only villanous within the first half of the story and becomes more heroic in the latter half, or rather, he wasn't really a "villain" in the first place.



Slime Isekai profiles in general are lacking explanations in their intelligence and weakness section. LN Yuuki's weaknesses was just added by me months ago, for example.

However I'm only familiar with the LN so I've only been making future CRTs for the LN version, though I've been too busy IRL to finish and post them.
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so WN yuuki is an evil counterpart to rimuru. Could you say FOIL as well?


also didn't the WN version die? (like he got absorbed by rimuru)


what the heck is WN Yuuki's problem. something about ending crime by being the leader of crime. (is the WN version of him since he's evil, a massive jerk/dick.)
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
could you say yuuki is the evil counterpart to rimuru in the sense they both came from earth but one became good and the other became bad.
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Not in ln atleast, Ln Rimuru has done more evil deeds than yuuki. Wn felt it was trying to make him his evil counterpart but it was not executed well
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
so WN yuuki is an evil counterpart to rimuru. Could you say FOIL as well?


also didn't the WN version die? (like he got absorbed by rimuru)


what the heck is WN Yuuki's problem. something about ending crime by being the leader of crime. (is the WN version of him since he's evil, a massive jerk/dick.)
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I wouldn't really necessarily call WN Yuuki an "evil counterpart." He's just an Otherworlder that's evil. There were others just like him.

WN Yuuki isn't particularly well written in my opinion. He seemed to be just evil for the sake of being evil, having went insane. A far cry from his LN counterpart.
 
Metalballrun said:
I wouldn't really necessarily call WN Yuuki an "evil counterpart." He's just an Otherworlder that's evil. There were others just like him.

WN Yuuki isn't particularly well written in my opinion. He seemed to be just evil for the sake of being evil, having went insane. A far cry from his LN counterpart.
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isn't rimuru a otherworlder?

so it's just not only rimuru am i right.


there are people like him that went to this world he is currently in.


though didn't yuuki die by rimuru eating him?
 
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